**Official Micro Stakes Madness 5NL,10NL,25NL Focus Group**

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Oooh ok, misunderstood then sorry.

And I have noticed that too. Every 2 seconds I'm getting donk bet on one of my tables, which is really fking annoying when you don't hit your broadway cards.

People who know more, let me know !
I almost always fold I think.
 
Well my.. I recon folks with that 100% donkbet stat are doing you the favor of lying to you 2/3 of the time. You'd treat that the same way as you would a person who c-bets 100%.

In fact Wouldn't the >66% donkbetter really be the same as the >66% cbetter just with less respect for position?

Sounds like an opportunity to use the WVHillbilly formula in your sig.
 
cAPSLOCK said:
Well my.. I recon folks with that 100% donkbet stat are doing you the favor of lying to you 2/3 of the time. You'd treat that the same way as you would a person who c-bets 100%.

In fact Wouldn't the >66% donkbetter really be the same as the >66% cbetter just with less respect for position?

Sounds like an opportunity to use the WVHillbilly formula in your sig.
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I think this is one of my AF problems - once someone donk bets into me, I go into passive mode, I think - and my cbet % is way above 66, so someone paying attention to that may just be forcing me into a raise/fold situation - good suggestion, thanks.
 
Most of the time someone donkbets me in 10NL they either have TPGK or TPBK and they are just trying to see where they stand. If they donkbet me on the flop and I've caught air, I will usually reraise 5x their bet to see where I stand. If I hit with TPTK I will sometimes bet pot and sometimes just call depending on the player. If he's more likely to bet a larger percentage of the pot on the turn if I just check, I will let him do my betting for me and then, if I still think my hand is better, I will reraise him big on the river.
 
Most of the time someone donkbets me in 10NL they either have TPGK or TPBK and they are just trying to see where they stand. If they donkbet me on the flop and I've caught air, I will usually reraise 5x their bet to see where I stand. If I hit with TPTK I will sometimes bet pot and sometimes just call depending on the player. If he's more likely to bet a larger percentage of the pot on the turn if I just check, I will let him do my betting for me and then, if I still think my hand is better, I will reraise him big on the river.
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I actually like something a little different. If I have air, and they donk bet into me, most of the time I'm letting it go and moving on to the next hand. I think it starts getting to maniacal popping them and continuing to barrel unimproved. As for the hands where you say you believe they are donk betting TPGK when we have an overpair or TPTK, I'm not so sure about this 5x stuff. Why not raise them for value so they continue with a hand we have crushed?
 
My opinion on donk bets (in general):

dry board: Bet to see where they're at

wet board, especially near-pot donk bet: bet to protect hand, want to get as much money into pot

In the first example, we need to look at whether they fold to a raise. If it's a 332 flop and they donk out for like half pot it's usually a hand like 66-88 but since they probably aren't great they probably won't find a fold. When it's A82r however you can almost always raise because they have PP under A and will likely fold to raise, although sometimes it's like A5 that won't fold to a raise.

In second, just fold unless you have a hand.
 
I've added donk bets to my HUD recently 'cause I know there are players that do it a lot. So the more often they do it, the less often it means something. The more often they do it the more often I raise them back.

And I've started experimenting with doing it myself; when I'm OOP and called with medium/low pairs and the flop is dry. Or from the blind, calling a suspected late position steal instead of 3 betting pre and then donking the flop.
 
Last night I had a dream. It was in the theme of Stanley Kubrik's "2001: A Space Odyssey" and our evolution as poker players. In my dream stood the obelisk - the object that assisted the primates to develop weapons which allowed their transformation from intelligent animal to sentient being through the use of tools.

For some in this thread, the obelisk awaits you...



For those of you that know the movie or book, you know where to look for the next obelisk ... and it shall be waiting for you ...
 
Hey everyone. I'm still playing with play money and live poker but am starting to seriously think to giving online real money poker a try.

I was watching a 10nl game it(6-max). UTG raised it about 40c which left him with $11. It was folded all the way to the small blind who called leaving him with 9.20 and the BB who called leaving him with 5.35.

The flop came up 4c 2c Qh.

SB checks and BB bets 40c. UTG raised to 1.30 and SB folds. The BB reraises to 2.20 and UTG calls. the next card is Jd and BB raises all-in.
UTG calls and the river is 3d

UTG has KQ and BB had 93clubs. Do people at these stakes normally reraise with a draw or is it rare and the guy was just trying a semi-bluff?
 
I see reraises with draws all the time at 10NL. But I wouldn't let that scare you away from giving it a try though. I just wouldn't be going crazy bluffing at draws all the time.

But that scenario could've been either way. The BB could've had history with the UTG and just trying to push him off his hand.
 
woot gogo micro stakes!

of course when i say micro i mean like 1 dollar SnG and .01/.02 tables haha

any1 else play those? i hate playing at .01/.02 tables tho >< every1 is so loose its annoying
 
invader2 said:
woot gogo micro stakes!

of course when i say micro i mean like 1 dollar SnG and .01/.02 tables haha

any1 else play those? i hate playing at .01/.02 tables tho >< every1 is so loose its annoying
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what?


no I dont think anybody plays 2nl (0.01/0.02)
what do you play?
 
Would anyone be interested in looking over my last 100 hands at 10nl and giving me some input???
 
eagle jim said:
Would anyone be interested in looking over my last 100 hands at 10nl and giving me some input???
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6 or Full? PM them to me if they're 6-max.
 
Nope not 6 max.......full ring (I like my fold button😀 ) Thanks for the offer though!
 
c9, I've got a couple of 6max sessions total about 100 hands, would you mind reviewing?
 
General question about FR hand playing:

A number of players limp, and I find myself on the button or late position with Ax(2-9, let me know where we start seperating any decisions).

I find that if I limp in as well I'm not winning enough or making up for the price of limping since these players will not fold to much on the flop and even if I do catch an Ace I'm honestly not sure if its good.

If I raise I have no fold equity and I'm building up a huge pot and a lot of the times don't connect with the flop/don't get enough folds w/ a c-bet.

Can anyone relate to this frustrating predicament? Any solution? Am I an idiot? Don't answer that.... I play 5NL by the way.
 
slycbnew said:
c9, I've got a couple of 6max sessions total about 100 hands, would you mind reviewing?
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I wouldn't mind a bit. PM them to me as the raw Hand History files from Stars or whatever. I like to load them into HEM & just analyze them that way. Much faster.
 
Likminutz said:
General question about FR hand playing:

A number of players limp, and I find myself on the button or late position with Ax(2-9, let me know where we start seperating any decisions).

I find that if I limp in as well I'm not winning enough or making up for the price of limping since these players will not fold to much on the flop and even if I do catch an Ace I'm honestly not sure if its good.

If I raise I have no fold equity and I'm building up a huge pot and a lot of the times don't connect with the flop/don't get enough folds w/ a c-bet.

Can anyone relate to this frustrating predicament? Any solution? Am I an idiot? Don't answer that.... I play 5NL by the way.
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I play 5nl also right now.

It depends on the players that have limped really. for instance last night this happened a few times and I raised on the button and got all but 1 player to fold then just took it down on the turn. What I want to know when I make this play is if they are crazy loose so I am ahead of thier ranges, and if they are weak after the flop. Obviously I won't do it when I am new to a table and I wouldn't do it if more than 3-4 people limp in as getting them all or all but 1 to fold is nearly impossible at 5nl. Also I am more likely to do this with A2-5 and any suited Ace as I can make big hand in addition to just outplaying villians.
 
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