The Power of Position (Day 1 Course Discussion)

johnnylawford said:

Hi guys,

Thanks for sharing this free resource, I think you've done a good job keeping chapters concise, while still having the right level of detail.

My one thought would be to include a brief mention of how 3-betting effects the power of your position. For instance, if you open from the button and the big blind 3-bets you how does this influence the 'power' of your position. This might be a good segue into the 'aggression' chapter too.

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wizcup said:

Hi Collin and Katie!

Thanks for the video.

However, I have a question which sometimes troubled me.

When we are on button or CO position and before us someone on UTG or UTG+1 raises with 3BB+, what should we do when we doesn't have best starting hand? Let's assume it's K10o or Q10o.

I'm asking because in every course it says about late position being looser. And sometimes I met people who raise in early position with premium hands and sometimes maniac who does not have anything.

FYI, I am still on NL2.

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Collin Moshman said:

Wizcup, You should generally fold almost any offsuit broadway hand in late position facing an early position raise. Against a very loose opponent, calling with KQo would be reasonable. But as a rule of thumb, you should fold there because you're too easily dominated and these hands don't play as well as the suited broadway hands.

We'll go into a lot more detail on this in future days of the course too

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Andrew Popov said:

Does this decision depend on the size of the preflop raise? If a mini-raise (+1 BB) is made by an odd player from an early position, and we have KQo, does it make sense to make a call? It is clear that on a raise of a larger size, it will be correct to fold. But will we have a chance to call a mini-raise?

Thanks in advance.

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Katie Dozier said:

Against a UTG maniac however, I would call with the same hand, in large part because we do not have the same concerns with reverse implied odds since we could expect that kind of opponent to pay off on more boards where we have the best hand, and the player's opening range is much wider than the reg's we initially discussed here.

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Andrew Popov said:

Thank you, this is a good logic of action!

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vinnie said:

The blinds are unique and should be treated as such. You have the downside of being out of position, but the benefits of increased pot odds and possible wide late position ranges. Often you will be playing against a wide range (like a button open) for a great price and can defend with a wider range. Other times, you will be up against an early position open and will need a much tighter range to show a profit.

You can't just say "use early position hands" or "use late position hands" when it comes to the blinds.

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alex_dorda said:

Is this course in English only?:fight:

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lollipopas said:

Something I'm a bit confused about - in some materials (like for example starting hands to play, from which position), the positions are divided early/mid/late, and there is not a separate category for the blinds. If we don't get into nuances of playing from the blinds, and just use these general advice tables, should we look at them as EARLY (as they act first after the flop so we should base their position on that) or LATE (as they're the last to act pre-flop and have information about all the actions pre-flop)?

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zwbb said:

good day. I can not find this information. Tell me, please, where can I read and see it? thank.

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