Suited connectors

koalapanda said:
Great question! These hands look pretty but they can be bankroll killers if you play them wrong.

I don't think I can add anything or say things in a better way.
Great insights, thank you.
 
@najisami Thanks a lot man, really appreciate it! Learned a lot from you guys here too. Still a lot to learn.

GL at the tables!
 
najisami said:
We often get dealt the nice looking 56s, 67s, 78s, and 89s.
Those hands are very tempting to play, but are they +EV hands?

When do you think we should get involved with such holdings?
And should we limp or raise with them?
well position is everything and then size value
 
Ivan Basic said:
well position is everything and then size value
Well, no one would ever disagree with the 1st part of your statement. As to the 2nd, it actually has to do with post-flop and here, we're talking about how to play those hands pre-flop.
 
koalapanda said:
Learned a lot from you guys here too. Still a lot to learn.

We all learn from each other. A good reason to appreciate this amazing forum.
Besides that, the few posts I've encountered from you so far are all on topic and really helpful👍😍.
 
najisami said:
We often get dealt the nice looking 56s, 67s, 78s, and 89s.
Those hands are very tempting to play, but are they +EV hands?

When do you think we should get involved with such holdings?
And should we limp or raise with them?
Most of the time I raise pre with these hands , limp doesn't seem as good play with these hands imo. 🙃
 
Oh! The seductiveness of suited connectors!

I remember when we had a CardsChat scavenger hunt a few years back, and one of the challenges was something like flopping a flush, or winning with low suited connectors. Trying hard (with play money!) to make that hit made me realize how hard it is to connect with a flop! That helped take away some of the Siren Call of those cards. But they do look pretty! 😉
 
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nabmom said:
Oh! The seductiveness of suited connectors!

I remember when we had a CardsChat scavenger hunt a few years back, and one of the challenges was something like flopping a flush, or winning with low suited connectors. Trying hard (with play money!) to make that hit made me realize how hard it is to connect with a flop! That helped take away some of the Siren Call of those cards. But they do look pretty! 😉

They sure do look pretty all the time, but it takes some experience indeed to realize that they're not as profitable as they might look like.
 
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MAFNL16061986 said:
only call when low start and raise when little street got on the first tree cards to bluff a bit


If by "low start" you mean a cheap flop, I guess everyone would agree, but raising on the flop as a bluff would depend on many things. For instance, the texture of that flop and how many players are involved.
 
These hands may be +EV, but they depend heavily on position, stack sizes, the size of the raise, and the opponents' profiles.
89s and 78s are excellent candidates for opening on the button and in the cutoff. On the other hand, 56o and 67o require more caution, especially in early positions.
 
Semprini said:
They make good overlimps and they make good multiway defends with good nice fat pot odds and especially if we close the action pre. These are situations where it is totally okay to check-fold the flop (which we will do A LOT) because of the strong implied odds.
Not to mention that it's easy to end up at tables with a lot of limps. We pay little and can win a lot.
 
najisami said:
We often get dealt the nice looking 56s, 67s, 78s, and 89s.
Those hands are very tempting to play, but are they +EV hands?

When do you think we should get involved with such holdings?
And should we limp or raise with them?
I like suited connectors, but I think their profitability depends a lot on position, stack depth, and the opponents we're facing. Hands like 76s or 89s can be profitable when played in position with deep enough stacks, especially against opponents who tend to pay off strong hands.
Personally, I prefer raising rather than limping, particularly from the CO or BTN. From early position, I'm much more selective, and against aggressive players who frequently 3-bet, I'm happy to fold. These hands have great potential, but they can also become expensive when we chase draws without the right odds. For me, the key is playing them selectively, not just because they look attractive.
 
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