A slowroll is pretending, you are considering a fold, when you have the nuts AND are closing the action. So per definition its impossible to slowroll and not get paid, since your opponent has already moved all-in. If thats not the case, then you are not closing the action, and then pretending to have a decision is not slowrolling but just deception, which is a completely normal and legitimate part of the game.ms_attack said:
ok thanks for your explanation, so it is actually pure Hollywood theater, well, I like that even less.fundiver199 said:
This is called stalling and has nothing to do with slowrolling. I guess, it could occationally be both at the same time, if you run down the clock before calling an all-in preflop from a player, who have you covered, to increase your chance of cashing, even if your AA get cracked. But even then most players will understand, that you are trying to get in-the-money rather than let them think, you might fold, and therefore they will not percieve it as a slowroll. If they will be left with a short stack after losing, they might even appreciate, that you also increase their chance of cashing by running down the clock.RhinoRyan89 said:
It can certainly end up resulting in bad karma and looking pretty silly, if you do it before the river with a hand, that might still get sucked out on. Some might argue, that this is not a slowroll, since Habb "only" had the second nuts. But for sure he was not 3-betting KK with intention to fold them to a 4-bet jam, when he was less than 25BB deep.CRStals said:
Some players are just idiots.hardongear said:Só um completo idiota faria isso em câmera lenta.
Dito isso, sim, eu posso ser um completo idiota, então, culpado como acusado, eu acho
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I have to admit, I get annoyed with players who do that. I try to avoid as much as possible, as I think it's offensive and unnecessary. I prefer to mark this player as casual and focus solely on my own match.nabmom said:
I think it would be understandable in a cash game or a fixed-limit game, since there is the ICM (Credit Moderation Index). But overall, it doesn't change much. It's inelegant.mattiebumpo said:
Indeed they are which is why I personally prefer playing online to playing at my local casino even thou it's only about 15-20 mins away and much softer games then online. The older I get the less I wanna deal with drunks, idiots and complete jerkoffs.....even if I am good at and excel at dealing with thenchristovam said:
. I'd rather be the easy going 6'4 250lb giant teddy bear over being the big mean(but funny for everyone else) grizzly bear.
You are still playing with drunks, idiots and complete jerkoffs online. There is just much less, they can do to annoy youhardongear said:
Oh 110% true but no one rarely ever chats anymore. And I have emjios and all that extra garbage turned off. And I haven't been slow-rolled online in years....hell can't even remember the last time but it hasn't been in the last 5 years. Get all the garbage at my local casino every time I go and multi times an hour. Sometimes I'll get lucky and the jerkoffs will just get up and leave soon as sit. I'm popular guy that way I guessfundiver199 said:You are still playing with drunks, idiots and complete jerkoffs online. There is just much less, they can do to annoy you
. It's nice when the trash takes itself out. 