I was thinking about eloytuga's range and saying he has to have a KK+ or pocket of J's or better to call a hand like that but from experience, some players tend to have no hand but try to scare you off the money because they already made an initial raise and can not go back on it but I ain't calling that hand unless I have KK+ hand
Was very interesting, most of the Twitch poker players always talk about ranges. Try to do it at the table, but you have not all the time in the world. So experience in recognizing situations is I think the key word? Looking at hand history and think, what is his range.
imnoobpoker said:
Yes or just thinking about what your range would be in a similar situation -- that can be a great place to start.
And nice idea -- Watching Twitch streams is definitely very good practice learning about ranges.
I really enjoyed this lesson, this is one of my weaknesses because I do not always think and break down the hands into ranges as Collin explained. I really enjoyed seeing the abbreviations of 88+ and AQo+, this has taught me to think about this easier and after this lesson I am thinking of using solvers and putting in the ranges on Equilab to help me to train my mind into thinking about each situation during the Funnel and re evaluating depending on the type of player and their betting patterns i.e Passive, aggressive ect.
Many thanks
Many thanks
Unless the player is an absolute maniac, he is on a range of QQ+ and possibly AK although I was in a SNG today where the action went (on the very first hand): UTG min raise, UTG+1 call, LJ min raise to 4 BBs, HJ call, CU call and I was on the button with AQs and made the call (pot odds) which let SB and BB also call. UTG then raises to 20, UTG+1 folds, LJ shoves for 100 BBs, HJ calls and it folds back around to UTG who calls. The hands= UTG: JJ, LJ: AKo, HJ: AKo. I was honestly expecting to see an AA or KK from one of the players or AA v KK.
Great lesson. Ranges are super important.
Great lesson. Ranges are super important.
xOneCoolHandx said:
Definitely, people can show up with unexpected hands or at least situations just like the one you give here where it seems that at least someone has to have KK+ but doesn't. That's a great example!
Today I really focused on ranges and studying my opponents during the tournament I played. I was skeptical initially that it would be of much difference because I used to go by feel placing them loosely on certain hands and not take the time to really study them, but it turned out it helped me make a lot of good decisions (along with using position) and I progressed quite far in the tournament. Thank you for the help!
I read this lesson this morning and i found it very interesting.
I tried this afternoon to think in ranges but it seems to be more difficult in real game than on the video 😀
And sometimes my brain switches back to previous way of playing .
I will have to improve my reading of the ranges if i want to survive in the cruel word of online poker 😉
I tried this afternoon to think in ranges but it seems to be more difficult in real game than on the video 😀
And sometimes my brain switches back to previous way of playing .
I will have to improve my reading of the ranges if i want to survive in the cruel word of online poker 😉
boyward said:
I would put him on a slightly wider range, but yours is definitely ballpark. And good Q, I'll have to look back to see what he actually had there 🙂
Riccoboni said:
Holding other factors constant, such as effective stack, looseness/aggression of remaining players, ante size, etc, I would open the same range in a cash game compared to early stage MTT play.
lauestla said:
Thanks, and don't worry, it will get much easier with time!
I went through these first 5/6 days before on Youtube, but going over it again has really helped my game play, and thinking in ranges cannot be emphasized more, and this also requires you to pay attention to the preflop action right down to what the player showed down with to adjust your range for them to know relatively when they are bluffing and when they seemingly have the nuts.
Nismo said:
Thanks Nismo and good question.
The best way to start thinking in ranges with software help is by using Equilab. Certain sites like Stars don’t let you have it up while playing but it’s free and very visual.