zinzir said:
I never said he should play freerolls, win a little and and go to the cash table and play, I actually advised against it since that's not the way to build a bankroll from freerolls (read my initial post for more details)
zinzir said:
If you win 2 dollars on a freeroll and then jump to a micro table to play it will be hard to build a bankroll. But if you hold on to your freeroll earnings until you accumulate 100 dollars,.........
I skipped the first post , didn't read it , now I saw it . If he's good enough and be able to build soon 50$ or 100$ bankroll good for him , but in most cases I don't think it will be easy , so he'll have to wait a lot without playing any real money games
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zinzir said:
But I have built healthy bankrolls on Pokerstars, Betonline, and ACR only from freerolls.
Whatever I said I was talking generally , not specifically for you or GreenRobeHoliday
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I play freerolls , everyone plays freerolls , even the big fishes play freerolls (now on 888poker 80+ , 100+ , 15000$ monthly elite , pokerstars used to have for big fish but not anymore , I also remember at pokerstars 1000$ freerolls everyday , or 2000$ every weekend , or less money freerolls in the past when I could everytime
🙂mad
🙂 meet Supernova or Supernova elite players at these tables or other high rank players , and I was wondering these players play for hundreds or millions of $$$$ in cash games or tournaments , wtf do these sharks want in our small prize freerolls , LOL
😀 )
Freerolls help your bankroll a lot and they can give you the chance to play games you wouldn't play normally only with your bankroll . If you can build a bankroll only from freerolls , congratulations , I really mean it . I was talking for beginners not to be afraid to deposit (and ofcourse play extremelly carefully with these money if you are not good enough) , also if you lose your bankroll for any reason , not to be afraid to deposit again , and ofcourse play at the same time the freerolls in order to expand your bankroll , to be able to play more games , etc .
zinzir said:
.....because it's so hard to find freerolls with ACR not working and BOL hardly having any. Now the good days of BOL freerolls are over and , but this CC freeroll club seems like a good deal for a bankroll builder, I understand that the players are good, but I have watched the registration numbers, the field is quite small, so it can't be that much harder to get in the money that the old BOL freerolls.
Most freerolls , like CardsChat on ACR are back , with the exception of one two sites , maybe these will come back later , so everything is going well again
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I also built my bankroll at ACR from freerolls and then play with the winnings 10cent tournaments and have winnings and expand it , I have tight BRM , I try to play the 1.1$ or 2.2$ or 5.5$ only when there is a series of tournaments with big guarantees so they can give more than 1000$ prize , but I have no success for the time being , bad beats ?? bad decisions ?? maybe both
🙂 But I deposited at the beginning , they had some freerolls for depositors I think , small deposit
🙂The same at the old FullTilt
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zinzir said:
If I can build bankrolls from freerolls anybody can for I consider my poker skill below average. I am not saying that making a deposit is a capital sin, just that one can build a bankroll without one, that's all.
Don't say that
🙂 I have played innumerable freerolls and I don't go well , CC freerolls or some others , on 888poker and ACR I have built bankrolls , but on PokerStars I have deposited not only when I first joined , but many times since then cause I lost the bankroll due to tilt (and bad beats
😱) , and freerolls winnings there are not good/enough , at one site that has the same poker lobby with Partypoker I deposited again .
But if you are good at freerolls , that's awesome , probably you don't need to deposit not even once (only when you want to withdraw , I think then all rooms impose you to make a first deposit ). But if sb like me isn't , maybe he has to make a deposit (again and again ?)
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zinzir said:
PS: In my opinion, in that quote, Phil Ivey meant that money should not influence your decision making during poker play, and it was not about bankroll management or making a deposit.
Well I believed he was talking generally , not to play with scared money , not only while you play poker cash games/tournaments , but also , I mean if sb says'' I won't deposit cause probably it's a waste of money cause I don't know how to play well '' , aren't you afraid of losing money ?? Isn't your money on the tables , even the freerolss money , scared money ???Some other might keep the freeroll money and not play at all , not even one real money game with them , this also can happen
🙂 But , on the other hand , some players might play more loose and extremelly more aggressively , not at all scared , exactly because it's freeroll winnings , and not their money . So yes , it depends on every player's abilities , skills , playing style , character/aggressiveness , playing preferences ......
Good Luck at your games
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