Do you think you can play for high-stake immediately?

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Honestly, I don't see why not to play any stake that makes the player comfortable on playing if he/she have the money for it. Why it has to be like levels, low to high?
Of course, if you are on a tight bankroll no need to risk it. But I've known few people with huge starting bankrolls that started playing low (reason for making this thread).

Yes, there are guidelines that makes sense for players to start at lower first if they were a beginner for instance, but you can start at high and come out with a lost at first then after a while you'll catch on and turn things around, just like any level, even in low-stakes sometimes you'll be bullied by players.

In online poker especially, you always see the same high-stakes players to a point you can go against all the time and much information on them, the field isn’t big, and the tournaments are deep in stacks and slow blind levels (my favourite structure).
Many players when they started playing poker at young age made significant wins, didn't they play high-stakes immediately?
These are some of the reasons why I tried it once and eliminated the thought that its a high-stake game, sure the players are more experienced but to a certain point you can beat them in multiple hands. I finished in good position with a good pay-out and totally loved the experience of a high-stakes.


I’m sure many players would love to play these stakes and can afford them but maybe they are afraid. Play it with your spare money, or save up for a big buy in every while, and don't just use this spare for mid and low again. Try high stakes with it cause you wont know when that big figure score will hit you. GL to all players!!
 
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I think the main thing is not your financial capabilities, but your skill and experience in playing poker. The higher the limit, the more difficult it is to play, because the skill of regular players grows in proportion to the limits. Therefore, if you have little experience and skill, it is better to start with lower limits. And if you do not feel sorry for the money, then you are a fish at higher limits.
 
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Yes, perhaps by playing a little you will have an income. But in the long run you will lose. You will face players from professional poker funds. They have an almost endless bank roll, they are constantly working on the game, they are trained, they have statistics and know the tendencies of the game at different stakes.
 
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mj22 said:
Honestly, I don't see why not to play any stake that makes the player comfortable on playing if he/she have the money for it. Why it has to be like levels, low to high?
Of course, if you are on a tight bankroll no need to risk it. But I've known few people with huge starting bankrolls that started playing low (reason for making this thread).

Yes, there are guidelines that makes sense for players to start at lower first if they were a beginner for instance, but you can start at high and come out with a lost at first then after a while you'll catch on and turn things around, just like any level, even in low-stakes sometimes you'll be bullied by players.

In online poker especially, you always see the same high-stakes players to a point you can go against all the time and much information on them, the field isn’t big, and the tournaments are deep in stacks and slow blind levels (my favourite structure).
Many players when they started playing poker at young age made significant wins, didn't they play high-stakes immediately?
These are some of the reasons why I tried it once and eliminated the thought that its a high-stake game, sure the players are more experienced but to a certain point you can beat them in multiple hands. I finished in good position with a good pay-out and totally loved the experience of a high-stakes.


I’m sure many players would love to play these stakes and can afford them but maybe they are afraid. Play it with your spare money, or save up for a big buy in every while, and don't just use this spare for mid and low again. Try high stakes with it cause you wont know when that big figure score will hit you. GL to all players!!





As long as you have unlimited resources & are willing to lose massive amounts of money to modestly cash once in a blue moon to stroke your ego, this is excellent advice. Should you not be a delusional degenerate gambler this advice is beyond silly.
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Of power you can if you are a person who is doing well financially, but it would be like throwing away your money. Everything in life has a process. You have to learn to crawl and then learn to walk and then be able to run and that applies to everything in this life. As I said, you can, but you shouldn't.
 
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If you can afford to lose the money there is really no reason why you have to start at the lowest levels. There is one thing though, why would you want to start playing vs the high rollers before you know the game. Playing at lower levels allow you to learn the game while not playing with the sharks.

One reason many do is they just dont have the back roll to do it. Just take a $100.00 buy in level. How many people have the funds to be technically properly bank rolled. I dont have 10 to 15K to say I am bankrolled for it.
 
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I'm on the "go for it" team. Wasted way too much time worrying about the small stuff. So much to lose, so few ways to lose it. You only live life once.
 
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I definitely couldn't. Only in one case: through multi-stage selection starting from the minimum buy-in.
Those players who advise are right: imagine that you bet half of your money in one hand and lost. I lost several times in one hand, even with passing stacks. A very devastating state.
 
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Rowdy Greg said:
You only live life once.
Yes, all the more reason to be careful with it. There's no joy in eating lousy food, not being able to pay the rent or other basic necessities of life or hating yourself just because ONE poker session went awry. Unless you're super rich, losing hundreds (or thousands) of dollars over half an hour matter a lot!
 
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I think you can't beat high stakes playing as a beginner because there is such a big skill gap, high stake players are really skilled and have learned poker for some time.
 
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I Think that if you have the cash you can really do it and all good players on high stakes will love that you do.. . Professional poker players know a lot of things that some people dont even know exists. Poker only exists because players that are no good at all sometimes win, if they always lose they would just stop playing.
 
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Playing at high limits and winning at high limits are not the same thing. I would not be able to play big at once for two reasons: firstly, there is no way to play with high stakes, and secondly, I am absolutely not sure that with my level of understanding I could win at a high level.
 
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Im a no deposit player. I have small bankrolls at several sites. Thanks to CC freerolls. I play and build up about $150. Then I play a $109 tourney like Sunday Main events to test myself. Largest cash Ive had so far was $307. But I lost it back in a few weeks playing $55 tourneys.
I never planned to withdraw . Its a fun learning experience that someday could lead to a large cash. Time spent is a enjoyable free entertaining relaxation at the end of the day. Thanks Cardschat for making that possible for me. I wish GREAT luck to all depositing players.
 
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Iam sure i couldnt do that. Only if i would get free money then surely. But with own money, no. I think iam not ready for this step right now.
 
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mj22 said:
Honestly, I don't see why not to play any stake that makes the player comfortable on playing if he/she have the money for it. Why it has to be like levels, low to high?
Of course, if you are on a tight bankroll no need to risk it. But I've known few people with huge starting bankrolls that started playing low (reason for making this thread).


Boris Becker used to but he doesn't anymore.

I've always said that if you can afford to play for super high stakes, you shouldn't.
 
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I don't think it's necessary to follow up the stakes ladder and that doesn't mean higher stakes players have higher skills not 100% of the time at least. I play on higher stakes like 11$+ better than with low stakes players. I think it depends on your game strategy and what kind of moves make sens for you sometimes in lower stakes you push for elaborate moves that opponents won't understand and make the wrong decisions against you thinking it's the good move to end up winning things that happen less in higher stakes games
 
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even if you have an "infinite bankroll" it makes no sense to immediately sit down to play with professionals at high stakes (this applies to cash) you will just give them money (at least at first) it will be much better if you try
playing MTT-here there will be much more chances and there will be no feeling that you are running into a wall
 
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I think the beginning is with the lower limits because the game level is also lower, so it's easier to climb limits lol;):D
 
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If someone has money and wants to spend it playing high stakes it is their prerogative. It can be kind of silly though regardless of how much money you have if you are blowing big bucks playing very talented players.
 
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sure why not?

If you're a rec or playing with no Brm you should! If you've somewhat adequate Brm then it's called shot taking if you do it once & return back to normal stakes upon failure
 
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I think if you have a good amount of money that you can afford to lose then I don't see any problems to play higher stakes. But I think most of us need to follow a bankroll management and if I play one day of high stakes and lose, I would probably need a long time to recover the money, so, it's just don't worth it.
 
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Yeap, there were plenty of folks that would take a big chunk of their money and sit down with Antinous, Durr, Ivey and some other well known online pro at Full Tilt every night so they had the distinction of playing at that table and enjoy themselves for an evening. Wonder how many survived? lol

IF folks are serious though and have an idea what the're doing then they should be able to grind out a profit at whatever level they're playing to where they can move up and up the ladder slowly and surely.

The point of the game is to know where you can without a doubt pull money out fo the system. Some folks think they're going to do a Moneymaker who won a saty and won big and that's fine if you want to do that but the odds are so far against you, its ridiculous.

Its funny but I watched the moneymaker 2003 main event final table recently and that table was UBER STRONG with Harrington, Grey, Lester, Farha, Singer, even Vahedi (RIP) who had over $3 million in tournament wins before passing in 2011 and Ivey went out 10th on the famous Ace on the river full house of Moneymaker to beat Ivey's to 9s full. And before he hit the final table he had to get lucky with a pair of 8s against Brenes' Aces earlier in the tourn. It was ridiculous how lucky Moneymaker was that tourn.

The point is. people can get lucky but to do it for a long time requires skill, knowledge, experience and a lot LESS luck than someone that doesn't have a firm grasp on the game.

Can it be done? Ooh sure, but there are still numerous tales of the BEST PLAYERS IN THE WORLD GOING BROKE.

So its best to take what you have and start small although you have the roll to play much bigger and see if you can beat the folks just trying to enjoy the game rather than playing poker savants that are actually trying to beat you.

GL.
 
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I can't play for high stakes as I don't have money to enter, A high value ticket tournament At the moment I can only play the free tournaments and some other very low value tournaments, In the future once I have the ability to pay for a big tournament I will enter the big tournament:D:D:D
 
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I think that you cant play high stakes if you are a beginner player. If you are not professional player you will lose your money 😬
 
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If you are a genius...
 
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