Do you trust online poker?

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The examples, what you described, far not the worst scenarios... I do not remember exactly, but preflop AA vs 87 should be around 80-20%, so you win 4 times and lose 1 from 5 same hands. That is okay, the so called 'bad beats' are much more annoying, and sometimes if you count on the probability, it gives such a small chance to happen that you don't believe it, and similar ones never happens, when you are on the winning side... - and you just think it like this. It never happens, because you do not play without odds with crazy cards, call what - based on the cards, chance for winning - the opponent does... long term that makes the difference, partly.

Anyway, I have 100% no trust in pokerstars, the rest is more or less okay, even sometimes the session long 1-2 cards arriving for river to my opponents drives me crazy... otherwise, it is online, so you can't trust in it 100%, none of the sites... you heard about stories, when the dealers cooperate with players in casinos, or even online, what they make public, the bots, cash game cooperation etc.

Partly that is why I play low and micro buy-in tourneys... the last one, what they can, will, want to rig any possible way...
 
trusting online poker

we all heard many stories about scams in online poker like poker sites use bots or players as runners or even they can see your whole cards but none of them are true in trusted poker sites with thousands of thousands of clients if it was true they wouldn't have this many logins but the poker lobby engines are accidental and these accidents of showing cards are not making any justice to good players with good hands and this makes the good poker players after too many bad beats doubt the poker site
 
arashsgr said:
we all heard many stories about scams in online poker like poker sites use bots or players as runners or even they can see your whole cards but none of them are true in trusted poker sites with thousands of thousands of clients if it was true they wouldn't have this many logins but the poker lobby engines are accidental and these accidents of showing cards are not making any justice to good players with good hands and this makes the good poker players after too many bad beats doubt the poker site
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Why do you think there are thousands of thousands of clients? You don't even know how many genuine players are actually playing on any given online site, whether they are external or internal bots, how many are the same player on multiple accounts, etc.
 
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in anything that has to do do with tech is possible. but i truly beleive better player just play smarter and are more patience
 
I think the lower limits online are pretty clean of cheating because there's not much money at stake, but as you move higher up there's a greater likelihood of shenanigans.
 
I don't have any clear evidence but I have few experiences to suspect.

So I'm kinda sure that some kinda black list or big brother is behind us.
 
Depends on the site. PokerStars and Party yes, the rest not so much.
 
Yes

There are so many people that play online poker that it'd be stupid for a poker site to risk its profits to rigg the game. Check PokerStars for example, there is no proof or hints they may ever been rigged, yet everyday we see new people claiming it is rigged. Imagine if it acctually was, people would probably find out (several people already analised a huge sample dealt on PokerStars and it turned out ok) and the site not only would face the justice, but no one would ever play there again.
 
I trust online poker play on all the sites that in the Cardschat freeroll, I have never seen anything suspicious in any of them
 
Yes if you play on a reputable site. They have too much to lose if it was proven that they were fixing games and outcomes. On-line Poker is a massive business with lots of different sites find one that you can trust and stick with them.
 
I don't trust them at all... Why should I ?
Usually always when sites close it shows that they didn't keep their players monies in a seperate account and the "regulators" never noticed it...
So why should i believe that all the other requirements are fulfilled.
I'm looking forward to my country finally legalizing online poker next year and thereby enabling regulation by a government that is not leading the "most corrupt countries" list, like those where gambling sites usually reside!
 
It's okay to take the pot with the worst hand, but your opponent doesn't think so😀
 
don1980 said:
Hands like this happens all the time, everybody gets there turn.
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Exactly! That's what I said in the other post all of us has the equal chance just wait for your turn. Every one writes about this hands when they lost but never write when they win with scrap hands.
 
Online poker gives you the opportunity, if you want to earn them, then you need to learn, and then you will get independence and freedom
 
I trust that the online sites are not actively trying to cheat anyone. I do have some doubts that the RNG is set up perfectly. There’s gotta be a better or more true shuffling system imo. Too many times the statistics do not add up. Not sure why but there’s always a hand where one player gets their chips in as a massive favorite yet they lose. Also, seems to be many hands that create action. Maybe players are different live than online but I happen to see these wild run outs much more online. 75% - 95% favorites do not seem to hold as they should. I am not complaining about personal beats because I see it for all players. I also suspect that many players are still using real time solvers and robots even though the sites are working hard to combat this. Collusion and cheating is likely going on as well since money is involved and people in general will do shady things to get it. But I imagine this is the case in live poker as well. Overall, I do trust online poker but know there some elements that I (and everyone) need to use caution about when playing.
 
I think the larger companies like Pokerstars are quite trustworthy. After Black Friday,
regulations are taken quite seriously, and there is no way that they manipulate runouts because why would they? They make tonnes of money from rake, and surely if RNG was manipulated it would be visible in larger datasets with a high degree of certainty.
Where online poker becomes less trustworthy is on the smaller, unregulated sites that Americans may or may not play on, where they have no assurance of the legitimacy of the website, although even in these situations I am sure the runouts are legit enough and issues in dodgy RNG come from improper coding practises and not malice.
 
In General, Yes. Why would they cheat? And how they can do it. Let's say there is a tournament, and the first places, and therefore the largest prizes, can be won by "their" players? Or something like that. This will be immediately visible and clear to everyone. And the reputation of such a poker room will be covered with a copper basin forever and ever. I don't think they need it. It's like death to them, I think. Because there are a lot of poker sites and they have a lot of competition(the fight for the client). They want to attract as many players as possible. A rake Commission is taken from each tournament. it is usually 10% in favor of the club. The rest of the money is divided between the players. And on these 10% and the club needs to live and pay salaries to employees and arrange freerolls and other overhead costs must be present.
 
i didnt trust it in the begining.. im still alittle skeptical about it because alot of random mistery ish happens like a bad beet every other hand is pretty insane.. you just have to realize its not live poker and things that dont normally happen in a live game happen alot on poker sites.. just have to know when to fold..
 
i have a question for anyone that knows about it...

i found a site called jackpotfreerolls.com to play freerolls for betonline and americas card room and a few other sites.. but its asking me for my account information like email, password etc. Does anyone know if that site is trustworthy i dont want to end up getting screwed and give them my information.. please let me know thanks everyone
 
It is clear that low pairs often lose to high pair by river. It is unpleasant for you to lose so much and you understand in this situation that you were simply lost to zero, since there is no 100 percent trust in crystal selectivity. The program plays with the players. I often lose with a pair of KKs all-in preflop.
 
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