Do you trust online poker?

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I've had some pretty strange hands happen to me playing live. I have a saying, "If the odds same it can happen, sooner or later it will happen."
 
Here we go again

What - I thought we had seen the last of the online poker conspiracies.
Spare us, please.
 
Not really I think computer choose who wins it will do some crazy shit to give the win to 37o or 23o or anything that goes against you
 
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yeah i trust it but sometimes it feels like someone hit a doom button lol.
 
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I agree completely. I think online poker is totally rigged. I play all day because I work from home and see bad beat after bad beat where the big stack almost always takes out smaller stacks. Online programs are built to maximize the site profits. I'm sure of it.
 
JBGoode said:
I honestly believe that if you allow an online site to not only take your rake, but give your money to other players, they will do it. Think about it. If you own a poker site, you want as much money floating around as possible with the largest amount of players. That's how you make money. So it would make since to allow the good players along with the new depositors to win more. While causing the bad players, and addicts that will continue to deposit money to lose....

With that said, is the game random. Yea for the most part I believe it is, on the other hand. I do believe coin flip situations go more often to the good players that will stop playing when they are down. Along with giving the long shot wins to the bad players, and new depositors cause they want to give them a false scene of security. So when they run into a good player, and lose they will tilt, then redeposit. You cant tilt a good player very often, so why would you want them to lose to long shots, and lose their business? Knowing that if they are losing/not playing, you are losing rake. Then if they lose too much you lose, their entire bankroll.

something to think about.
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So what happens when a site is busted for doing what you suggested, that selected players are winning. How much money do they make once exposed?
 
Nop I dont. Some days ago I wrote a statement about how sometimes there can be bots during online tournaments, it is really hard and difficult to prove that someone new on your table that practically destroys all your mates with every single hand is a human. you try to talk to this guys with weird names and you never have a response from them. So, for this reason and many more, NO, I dont trust online games. Why keep playing? Because I believe I can defeat those bots hahaha lol
 
well...
I use to have much more faith.
Poker is not a game where your advantage is great, AA vs 76s is only 72-73% that is not that far from losing a third of the time.
 
Well, machines can be random, but a certain kind of random. I feel like I notice different sites have a different feel, or it's just variance.


Honestly, I'm more worried about DDoS attacks at this point and if the site will be around tomorrow and pay me out.
 
bots are a thing for sure, but the cards being dealt I don't think you need to worry bout it being rigged as they print money with rake and have no need to rig it.
 
I do not agree that the online poker is completely unregulated worldwide. In some countries this is correct but on many other (including here in Bulgaria) online poker operators should go through the same licensing regulations like the live casinos and poker rooms so i trust them equally (not 100% but enough to continue playing).
 
I trust the sites, but you have to know there are cheaters everywhere!
 
Why lie to them. And how they can do it. Let's say there is a tournament, and the first place, and therefore the biggest prizes in this to win "their" players? Or something like that. This will be immediately evident and clear to everyone. And the reputation of such a poker room will be covered with copper basin for ever. I don't think they should. It's like death for them I think. Because the poker sites of the sea and the competition among them (fight for the client) is big. They have the meaning as many players as possible to attract.
 
I believe that poker stars has it's program set up so that there is so many possibilitys to make a strong hand out of nothing.
You got a good hand, go all in and get sucked out with 7,8 got
to buy more playing chips or deposit more real cash. Remember
their a business that is trying to make a profit, not your buddy.
 
NBB said:
Interesting idea,

but how to you explain every winner in freerolls?
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I think this is influenced by many factors - such as account replenishment, regularity, etc. Factors can come up with a billion!
 
interesting

How Poker sites set their programming to be random is usually published and available to see. Most have been scrutinised to check that their code is completely random.

Playing online has a different approach than playing live.
 
RNG Rigged?

I love reading these conspiracy threads. Yep, the poker sites are out to get YOU and only YOU. All the other players at your table are being given great suck-outs on the river. You will lose because the sites want your money, not the money from the other players.


Here is what happens when PokerStars shuffles the cards. You will notice that this explanation focuses on setting up the cards to beat your pocket rockets, big pocket pair, or great flops. That donk who plays 3, 2 offsuit is selected to suck out his trips, set, or even his awesome boat. Here comes the Flop - K, 7, 3. And the Turn is - 2. Wow, your pocket rockets are looking good.But wait, the poker site wants you to buy-in again, so it decides YOU must lose on the River, and voila - here comes another deuce.
The Random Number Generator

One of the great challenges in generating a truly random number is that computers are logical, process-led machines, and so any series of numbers produced solely by a computer can never be truly random.
We use a ground-breaking system based on quantum theory. A single photon is directed at a semi-reflective mirror; the angle at which it is reflected, or whether it passes through, is an entirely random process that can never be accurately predicted, reproduced or interfered with.
Our random number generator has been tested and certified by Gaming Labs International (GLI) to meet the industry standard for highly-regulated jurisdictions. Click here to learn more, or click here to read our Certification of Integrity.
Imagine that - the RNG at PokerStars uses quantum theory to beat your pocket rockets. And then Gaming Labs International certifies that their RNG is all set up to fire those protons just so you will lose.
And that in a nutshell is why YOU lose, but nobody else suffers the same fate.
Best of luck on the felt. Here's hoping I am the other player at your table who is being favoured by the RNG. I always win with my 3-2 offsuit cards!
 
my opinion is: whatever online poker is, you all play it! therefore meaningless to anything I say! it would be better to raise the question: why do I often lose with a strong hand?
 
jfofla said:
I'm thinking about online poker, I'm not going in a round where I'm 2/3 in hand, here comes the card and it appears 3-3-2 and you wonder why I did not play this part? enters for you AA, you bet and think that you will win, your opponent goes with 7/8 and fafaz 2 pairs and wins from you. and so, should I rely on poke online.
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poker and a strategy game, not only depends on the cards you play but rather how you play them
 
If do I trust how the cards come out and are dealt yes. Do I trust bots and other ways have been exploited and eliminated from online no I think they still exist.
 
I trust online poker sites the same I trust any casino. We talk about online poker sites cheating like in live you are free of scams. I'm not sure who exactly was who said that in an interview, I think it was Negreanu or Matusow or some other pro, I'm not sure. He told a story of hitting the poker tables of a casino and losing big until an insider felt sorry for him and told him that he was being cheated. The manager could watch the cards with some thermal camera type of shit and inform the cards in the earphone of their player.
 
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On the site that I play the algorithm toward the end of a tournament appears to favor the person with the most money.I have not logged the count, but today I lost to a 6-9 offsuit having a pair of Queens. The second time lately I have seen that. The person having the 6-9 had quite a bit more than I. I was faced with having to og all in when the QQ occured. The player called me with the 6-9 o. They won.I lost. Question I have is how did the player accumulate so much more than most, why did they call an All-in with the 6-9 o and illogically a 6 and 9 hit the board.
 
I understand random. What I do not understand is a player who bets something absolutely outrageous, has some weird offsuit cards such as 6-9 o and a 6 and 9 hit the flop winning over a real good hand such as KK or AA.The person had more $$$ and won. If the poker algorithm online is setup to do that to speed up the game or whatever, that is "rigged", no matter what one may call it. It happens to all of us, I know. One may argue that since it happens to all of us, it is fair. I humbly disagree with that being a justification. In spite of what happens, I am retired and love the game. I stick to freerolls because of this exact reason. Hope this makes some kind of sense.
 
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