successlaw said:
I know a lot of people playing 24 h without sleep and they are not a bots... Propably 😀
With that "no answering" its not very true, i have chat turned off and if someone writening something i dont see it and i dont answer and im not a bot 😀
I have no idea really how to tell...……. sometimes I'll see wild names or just all numbers... sometime I get shoved or called with them having the wild river catch they could have gotten. I just never really know. In the dark too.😕😕
I could never say if sb is not a player but instead a bot . Maybe a way far more experienced and very very good poker player could see if the decisions of this player are normal or not , if he's just a skilled player or a programmed software to execute optimal theory and strategy . The many tables for counless hours without a break is a bot criterio imo , but the chat I don't think , bots nowadays might be able to chat I think so ...
In a bot is well programmed, there is no easy and fast way to spot it. As a HUD-user you should look for players, who are very active in your game, so that you collect a large sample on them quickly, and where their stats are almost to perfect.
Personally I have seen one account on PokerStars, which I suspect was a bot. The reason is, the account played a lot, and the stats, that developed on my HUD were unusual and would require a lot of discipline to maintain, if a human was playing like this.
In short the player was aggressive but it also seriously overfolded to aggression. Which is kind of exactly, how you might want to set up a bot for playing in the micros, because it keep it out of trouble, and people in the micros tend to be under bluffing in most situations.
The account was playing a time limited game called "show time", where all cards are folded face up. Using a bot for this kind of game makes sense, because its easier for a computer to digest and fully take advantage of information about dead cards.
Now I dont know, if this account was a bot, and I never reported my suspicion to PokerStars, because it was so loosely founded. Also the game stopped after a few month, and I never saw the account on regular tables.
Personally I have seen one account on PokerStars, which I suspect was a bot. The reason is, the account played a lot, and the stats, that developed on my HUD were unusual and would require a lot of discipline to maintain, if a human was playing like this.
In short the player was aggressive but it also seriously overfolded to aggression. Which is kind of exactly, how you might want to set up a bot for playing in the micros, because it keep it out of trouble, and people in the micros tend to be under bluffing in most situations.
The account was playing a time limited game called "show time", where all cards are folded face up. Using a bot for this kind of game makes sense, because its easier for a computer to digest and fully take advantage of information about dead cards.
Now I dont know, if this account was a bot, and I never reported my suspicion to PokerStars, because it was so loosely founded. Also the game stopped after a few month, and I never saw the account on regular tables.
A bot net would presumably be a number of accounts all working together and using the same bot software. This would give the additional advantage of letting the bots know each others cards so that they could collude if on the same table.
For instance if one bot has K4 and fold, then another bot will also fold 44 in a situation, where it would otherwise have tried to setmine. Or if one bot was AQ from UTG, but another bot has AK in later position, then the bot with AQ will fold.
This is the "softest" form of collusion, and computers are ideal for it, because they can easily digest and use information about dead cards, and they can do it on many tables simultaneously without getting overloaded with information and decisions.
I dont know for sure, if someone has done this, but its such an obvious way to cheat, that I would be surpriced, if noboby ever attempted it. After all when real money is at stake, some people will happily do anything to get it.
For instance if one bot has K4 and fold, then another bot will also fold 44 in a situation, where it would otherwise have tried to setmine. Or if one bot was AQ from UTG, but another bot has AK in later position, then the bot with AQ will fold.
This is the "softest" form of collusion, and computers are ideal for it, because they can easily digest and use information about dead cards, and they can do it on many tables simultaneously without getting overloaded with information and decisions.
I dont know for sure, if someone has done this, but its such an obvious way to cheat, that I would be surpriced, if noboby ever attempted it. After all when real money is at stake, some people will happily do anything to get it.
See right there is why I dont get into those gimmick games. These cardrooms just got to much extra stuff on here to try to keep people in the game and then BOTS that are getting better and better, after awhile there will be no way to wiin, it will all be a crapshoot.
I might as well go to the roulett or craps table then!
I might as well go to the roulett or craps table then!
fundiver199 said:
Some are easy and so are fairly hard to spot.
they are programs designed to play some-what good poker, but sometimes logic fails them.
Only way to really tell a player is a bot is by really looking at how they play over a long time.
no human is constant over very long periods, and tilt plays it part.
Best way to find one is just watch how players play, you'll find one sooner or later.
they are programs designed to play some-what good poker, but sometimes logic fails them.
Only way to really tell a player is a bot is by really looking at how they play over a long time.
no human is constant over very long periods, and tilt plays it part.
Best way to find one is just watch how players play, you'll find one sooner or later.
