Is Online Poker Rigged?

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An HUD would need to know what to measure in order to prove it is rigged or not. Right now all the normal measurements are passing, i e. frequencies of draws hitting over the long run, frequencies of cards, frequencies of someone being dealt AA, KK, etc., frequencies of winning with a particular hand over the long term, all of these are NORMAL.

If you stop looking at these measurements and program your HUD to look at who wins 2-3 hands after somebody else wins, then you can start figuring out how it is rigged. Many users of this forum already know this and apply this. Just a matter of time before it comes out in the wash.
 
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This is interesting but I don't understand the last paragraph. And my question I guess is do you think online poker is rigged?
 
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It's 100 percent rigged, but not in a simple way that most would consider. Events at the table influence future events at the same table in predictable ways.
 
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Hi There

Do you think so?
Look what happened yday
I had A2 and some fish had 66
the flop: 345
I go allin and the fish calls
The turn: xx
The River 7

Now tell me....

Rgds
But you had the idiots end of the str8. And tbh A2 is a POS IN EP. Are you expecting to flop the wheel with this hand? Just of pure instinct I would say you were way behind pre flop. Got ahead a bit on the flop but thinking critically you were never ahead. Moral of the story is... Fold that A2os in EP because against a fish this hand is almost always gonna get beat.
 
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I think the same when I suffer a bad beat. I recommend playing on bovada or ignition. The cards seem to fall in my favor much more on these sites.
 
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Somehow I doubt we will ever see it.

why so negative? instead of you being happy that someone from the scene finally says something about it! I do not understand. And why do you doubt that? Do you have reasons that make you doubt? 1/3 of the book is already finished.
 
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An HUD would need to know what to measure in order to prove it is rigged or not. Right now all the normal measurements are passing, i e. frequencies of draws hitting over the long run, frequencies of cards, frequencies of someone being dealt AA, KK, etc., frequencies of winning with a particular hand over the long term, all of these are NORMAL.

If you stop looking at these measurements and program your HUD to look at who wins 2-3 hands after somebody else wins, then you can start figuring out how it is rigged. Many users of this forum already know this and apply this. Just a matter of time before it comes out in the wash.

No it can't!
A HUD can only show you statistics, but not how the poker provider strategically takes you out of the tournament in tournaments.
Because YOU don't know the upcoming cards.
 
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No it can't!
A HUD can only show you statistics, but not how the poker provider strategically takes you out of the tournament in tournaments.
Because YOU don't know the upcoming cards.
I think we're in agreement in that currently HUDs are programmed for simple stat measurements rather than sequences of events. As for knowing the upcoming cards, nobody should know those unless the RNG is feeding into another program which then distributes the cards... right? This has been suggested several times over the many years that the rigged debate has been around. However, it doesn't seem to make sense that no employee so far has come forward to blow the whistle on this kind of setup.
why so negative? instead of you being happy that someone from the scene finally says something about it! I do not understand. And why do you doubt that? Do you have reasons that make you doubt? 1/3 of the book is already finished.
I have my doubts as it has been so many years without anyone coming forward and that now suddenly someone is allegedly going to do the whistleblowing.

If this is a true issue: why is this person writing a book about it? To make profit. The ethical thing to do would be to take it to the news outlets and government agencies. Once a book deal is involved I am switched off to the idea.
 
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If this is a true issue: why is this person writing a book about it? To make profit. The ethical thing to do would be to take it to the news outlets and government agencies. Once a book deal is involved I am switched off to the idea.

then everything comes little by little. Mills grind slowly but steadily. First the release, then the rest. The poker industry is powerful. You can't make a mistake there.
 
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Hard to say 100%. But in tournaments with big buy-in for example i don t think so it is all random.......In fact the idea of a poker site is to make money.OK???? And if you create a soft,,,,,,,,you don t controlet??? You leave all random??????? I don t think so......And is online........Online you can do what you want.......
 
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Rigged is like the earth being flat, if it was rigged or if the earth was flat it would be very easy to prove. HUDs would be able show that it was rigged and if the earth was flat cats would have already pushed everything over the edge.
You have humor SIR...ALL the best.....i really like your explenation.
 
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Poker gods make you believe in them.

Online poker is as rigged and set up as a live cash game in a casino,w a random dealer. forget the opposing player runner runner 6 7 for the 3 4 5 straight. I guess my point being is that any cards can hit the flop almost any cards can hit the turn and almost any card can hit the river infinite times infinite possibilities. If live poker seems rigged. Then online poker will seem SHADEY 2 but. Know your outs. Play tight. be aggressive and stay emotionless, unless having a good time. As always gl and have fun
 
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AK and AA hands dealt in the same hand is one of the patterns I see on ACR.
 
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The 75 guy was only in for 5BBs. The total pot was 97+BBs. The AQ guy was the main villain.

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River coinflip, AQ hit's two outer on river.

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WILL A FLUSH DRAW EVER LAND AGAIN ON STARS???

Lately I've been starting to get serious doubts about Stars.

Just lost an all-in once again where I had a flush draw on the flop with 30 ish percent to have it landed by the river.

Now its been the 19th consecutive time it didn't come in.

Since I started noticing like 4 months back already that I wasn't completing any flush draw I started to manually record the outcomes in these situations in an Excel sheet.

Now overall over the last 189 occurences to be exact, just a mere freaking 9 have landed whereas around 55 can be expected.

Is this Stars's way to rig and condition players??? Seems to me as this is in no way a variance thing or sample size issue if you ask me.
 
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I go to live poker many times, but there are no situations like in online poker. For example, someone preflopp allin goes to 6 7 and AA and he wins with full house and ect. So I think you can cheat a little bit in some way.
 
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in poker you can never be sure of a win unless you have the most important combination


poker paths are mysterious ... :)
 
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I do not know what to say if online poker is rigid or not certain it is most often unfair. that is, not always if you pay and you have a big pair in your hand or bigger than your opponent's win.
 
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