Online is rigged

It could very well be manipulated but I think this is done at higher levels not in the freeroll area

Poker is tough and some rng's are more active....If you had unlimited funds you wouldnt feel like you do....Is rules to every business start up or long term learning math is biggest if you automatically can see your odds or learn your odds you can be successful with discipline anywhere

A guy asks God if online poker is rigged.

God answers "No!"

The guy "Wow the conspiracy runs this deep!"

I got proof of it now! Every body don’t play at Betplay! Don’t deposit there! Watch the videos and judge! Please don’t pay attention on my language 😅 it was not exactly correct 🙈
tis is the link to the films I recorded at the poker site Betplay.

I agree with you, BUT, I still can't answer why those who actually dedicate and study the game doesn't seem to worry about it

esoxhunter71 said:

Anyone that does not think of line poker is rigged is a moron

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Those who spend money on the game believe that online poker is rigged because they spend money on the game
Those who earn income believe that it's great that there are players who are willing to spend money on poker, because they earn income from it. Time will tell who is who .....

BetterThanAvgButNotByMuch said:

A little disappointed seeing some of the responses especially since a few folks here were around during all the scandals both in the company side of things and with players going against site policies giving them an unfair advantage like bonomo or ppl using bots, collusion, grabbing hand histories off tables theyre not playing on to now using charts while playing and whatever these crooks are doing.

Then you have highly skilled players that have been playing for ages and highly skilled meaning they could play $2-5 live for a living or higher in the US and theyre multi tabling some dinky micro level online while playing folks that have no idea what theyre playing against, lol.

I mean itsa neverending fiasco especially with online poker. So if someone wants to vent . . . I mean. . .But to pile on like that? Im not a fan of that.

If its not adding to the conversation constructively or at least trying to point someone in the right direction then its probably better to ignore the post.

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Unfortunately I think the op set the tone of the thread with the proclamation that anyone who doesn’t agree with them is a moron, which is going to provoke responses with a defensive tone. To then continue to patronise, belittle, plain ignore or fail to consider any of the responses - without even expanding on the actual reasons for having the opinion in the first place, or in what way the ‘rigging ‘ is happening - to ending up declaring we’re all idiots so they’re never posting again - is going to not make those responding any more sympathetic to his plight.

I’ve seen much worse responses to posts where people are clearly new and having a bad day and just need some reassurance. This thread has some great posts with thoughtful responses instead of sarcastic one liners, but the op response that he was better than most as a ex pro who’d been on TV being targeted by corporate America for his $1 buy ins was always going to generate a response of a certain tone. The op had already made up his mind and yeah venting is cool but venting online doesn’t mean insulting those who you want to vent to. Considering some of his replies I’m surprised how civil the responses remained to be honest.

When all is said and done it’s cool to have different opinions but it’s not cool to get personal when you disagree with someone. The world would be boring if everyone was the same, Respect that someone thinks differently to you it doesn’t mean you have to get nasty when I find someone I can debate with without it getting personal I absolutely love it. I enjoy hearing people’s opinions and perspectives but I like to understand why they think that way, what annoys me is when they don’t know anything about the subject and just jump on a bandwagon without getting all the data. They are the ones who usually get angry and personal when you argue a good point and they have no reply. Like when people are wrong and can’t admit it.

Anyway we all need to stay respectful and not treat people how they treat us if they treat us bad; don’t become a bad person because of someone else. If someone treats you badly it’s better to just cut them off. Or kill with kindness, that’s such a good tactic 🤣❤️

That's why it's good to use main stream platforms that are more reliable, there must be fraudulent ones.

Short stack shoves, big stack calls...i shove qq with about 1/3 of big stacks chips...

He snaps...with 35suited

And flops a straight

Not sure if online is rigged...but this type of thing happens so often it cant be coincidence.

Eu não sei sobre você I don't know about you, but some poker Apps seem to favor those with more chips, I have that feeling... I'm not sure, it's just hypothetical

dienesantosc said:

Eu não sei sobre você I don't know about you, but some poker apps seem to favor those with more chips, I have that feeling... I'm not sure, it's just hypothetical

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Or maybe those with more chips call more often and more lightly, How often do you see a big stack knock a few people out with the worst hand then loose half their stack and even though they still have 50 BB they lose their head and go out within a couple hands? Honestly just keep watching that lose player I guarantee you their luck runs out before the final table 95% of the time.

Again this favouring one random player over another when the site makes its money from the rake no matter who wins and risking their integrity and trust by rigging micro buy in games is just beyond unfathomable because these crazy bad beat calls aren’t happening in high stake games and I also guarantee not one person in this thread can say they have never played a bad hand badly and won. ALL of us have found ourselves in a pot we shouldn’t be in against a monster and won and felt dirty afterwards lol.

That’s the whole thing about poker that even 72 can win and the strongest hand pre doesn’t guarantee a win. To me if I lose with a good hand and played the hand well I just move on shit happens. If I played it badly or played previously in a way that provoked the action then I need to work on stuff. It’s not always a case of idiot called me with 58 off and beat my AA, when you don’t add that you had 3BB and he had 103 and you had a £20 bounty on your head 🤷🏼‍♀️.

I mean maybe stop risking your whole stack every single hand and use the philosophy that the aim is to NOT risk your whole tournament on one hand when you have 60BB and no need. I mean a lot would assume that betting 44bb into a 3bb pot is showing weakness or a racing hand, because a strong hand would want action, On the other hand limping with AA seeing a all club flop then smashing all in and crying when the BB 24 clubs knocks you out is also ridiculous.

If you get bad bead analyse how you played the hand, If you believe you did everything right then move the hell on the very worst play I see is players with big hands letting other players hit their flush or straight and being blind to it, think about what’s happening what they are representing stop marrying hands. 🤷🏼‍♀️

I can not help to ask you all this. Does it not seem odd that as far as Poker Stars Michigan, a person can only get there last 200 hand history's. Still winning more dollar games then I lose. My bet is know one answers this post.

I'll take that bet.... what did I win?,

is it not allowed get your own tracker for your hands if it's important to you....,

your tourney records are freely available on sharkscope for anyone to see how you're doing.... anyway gl😎👍

It's got nothing to due with tracker. There is not one instance in any bussiness that corporations have nit been caught cheating us. Period end of story bro. If we as players do nit make sure the game is square, collectively then it will not be

esoxhunter71 said:

It's got nothing to due with tracker. There is not one instance in any bussiness that corporations have nit been caught cheating us. Period end of story bro. If we as players do nit make sure the game is square, collectively then it will not be

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.... well that's where the tracker comes in, there have been people who have run over a million hands on PS and found no anomalies,

a 1000 hands is far too small of a sample to prove anything at all, but a tracker could help you look at your own hands and see how

you're doing, where your leaks are... far better to focus on something you have control over than to focus on some invisible enemy...

In Michigan, the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) allows individuals to request access to public records held by government agencies, including the Michigan Gaming Control Board (MGCB). However, certain records are exempt from disclosure under FOIA. Specifically, information related to the internal operations of licensed internet gaming operators—such as the results generated by Random Number Generators (RNGs)—is considered confidential and is exempt from public disclosure. This confidentiality is outlined in the Lawful Internet Gaming Act, which states that materials used by the MGCB in the course of reviewing or investigating applications for internet gaming licenses are exempt from disclosure under section 13 of the FOIA .

This is how the the people that decide if your game us fair chosen.

Members of the Michigan Gaming Control Board (MGCB) are appointed through a structured process defined by the Michigan Gaming Control and Revenue Act. Here's how it works:

Appointment by the Governor: The Governor of Michigan appoints five board members, each of whom must be a resident of the state.

Senate Confirmation: These appointments require the advice and consent of the Michigan Senate to take effect.

Political Party Limitation: To ensure political balance, no more than three members can belong to the same political party.

Term Length: Each member serves a four-year term, with terms ending on December 31 of the final year. If a vacancy occurs, the Governor appoints a replacement in the same manner.

Chairperson Designation: The Governor designates one of the appointed members to serve as the chairperson of the board.


This appointment process is designed to promote fair and balanced oversight of Michigan's gaming industry.

I'm not sure what your point is, you really expect the government to run the licensing through you personally....,

gaminglabs does Pokerstars rng as well as other gaming sites, 2 clicks in google told me that, no FOIA needed lol,

I can search players who do quite well on PS, if you're not well... maybe don't play, but of course you will so gl👍

Really dude that's your response. How about let us see the results of the RNG. If it is legit why cant we see it. What is the big secret.

esoxhunter71 said:

Really dude that's your response. How about let us see the results of the RNG. If it is legit why cant we see it. What is the big secret.

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Reality is > only the donkeys and newbies complain about & suggest the online sites are rigged. (and yet they continue to play)
None of the good/experienced players continue to question it... none of them suggest the sites are rigged. Why is that?

esoxhunter71 said:

Played pro for awhile and when it comes to playing online in MI with NJ I win more then I lose. Look me up its Esoxhunter411.

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You did not opt into Sharkscope, so your results are not public. However I can see, that you have only played 561 games over a period of 4 years, and your last 8 games were for 1x$1, 6x$2 and 1x$5 with half of them being satellites. So clearly you are not someone, who takes online poker serious and put in the volume needed to produce results. But thanks anyway for joining the forum and sharing your conspiracy theories.

Poker being rigged is not a very clever statement. Poker is big business and the sites are in a tough competition of gaining market shares. If a site were rigged it would go broke very soon. This is how corporate business works.
I will refrain from belittle those who - often via anecdotal examples of bad beats - believe that poker is rigged. Instead I will recommend them to quit poker. Meanwhile the vast majority of players who know that poker is a fair game get rid of the white noise from people who can’t cope.

I believe they use simple algorithms that not only guarantee you will lose, but also make it difficult to notice.A few simple algorithms are enough to make it difficult to detect any anomalies used to detect cheating. So if someone was consistently losing with AA, the game would simply let them win a few hands with AA, but in a way that they would lose the bigger pots and win the smaller ones.

dreamer13 said:

I believe they use simple algorithms that not only guarantee you will lose, but also make it difficult to notice.A few simple algorithms are enough to make it difficult to detect any anomalies used to detect cheating. So if someone was consistently losing with AA, the game would simply let them win a few hands with AA, but in a way that they would lose the bigger pots and win the

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Sites who do this - which is highly unlikely - would file for bankruptcy within a few days.

dreamer13 said:

I believe they use simple algorithms that not only guarantee you will lose, but also make it difficult to notice.

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What incentive does poker sites have to make some players win at the expense of others? Like for instance this guy, who is a low stakes grinder, and has won close to $0,5 mio. over the past 15 years. Most of which he has surely withdrawn and spend.