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Had a pretty rough session last night. Nothing crazy, just one of those nights where every decent hand seemed to run into something better.

Started off fine and then somehow ended up chasing losses, which obviously didn’t help. Called it a night in the end.

Anyone else ever have sessions like that where you just know it’s probably better to close the table?
 
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Yeah one night i lost half of my bankroll in few hours and then i have only two options left one to continue playing in tilt or call it a day and try again tomorrow. Hopefully i choosed second option 😅 and made back my back bankroll next day. It's better to call it a night then lossing all of your bankroll in tilt 🙄
 
If you’re simply trying to get back to even, that’s not a good reason to keep playing. On the other hand, if you’re still playing your A-game, the game is favorable, and you’re in a good state of mind, being down at that moment doesn’t necessarily mean you should leave. You don’t have to win back the money you lost in this session; you just have to make the best decision on the next hand.
 
The words I'm going to use are harsh, but necessary.

We're living in 2026, the 21st Century, in the Decade of Artificial Intelligence, all poker sites have casinos, how do casinos make money? by taking money from people, do you guys really think online poker isn't rigged? I've played over 1 million hands of Online Poker and I can say, Online Poker, especially Cash Game, is a completely rigged game, they don't want players like us, professionals, taking money from the FISH, because that's not profitable for the casino in the long run, if all beginners get plucked clean the house doesn't gain new customers, that's the truth, ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED. There is a way to beat the system's variance and make money, but you need to play a surreal amount of hands that go over 10 hours a day, all that to win a few dozen dollars and lose another few dozen the next day, if you got a job in another field you'd earn a lot more investing less time, so understand this, it's not worth playing Online Poker to make money, it should only be used as fun, a hobby, I won't even go into detail that 90+% of Poker players are broke and being propped up by sponsorships, pools and course sales, so that's the truth, making a living from Poker is a scam, it's possible to make money, but it's a profession that doesn't pay off.
 
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bleble2be said:
Started off fine and then somehow ended up chasing losses, which obviously didn’t help. Called it a night in the end. Anyone else ever have sessions like that where you just know it’s probably better to close the table?
Yes thats pretty normal, and its important to learn to stop, before you start "chasing losses".
 
fundiver199 said:
Yes thats pretty normal, and its important to learn to stop, before you start "chasing losses".
I'm not getting into details about how Poker works, I know how keeping a stable mindset is essential to not making crazy plays, I also understand that "revenge" plays can sink you even further, the point of my message is this: Is it worth playing Online Poker to make money? the answer is no, because the system is rigged to make you lose and not take money from beginners, yes, it's possible to make money, but if you invested that time in another field you'd make a lot more money, that's the point.

Now, if the person has no other skill in life besides playing Poker professionally, then it's better to keep at it.
 
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CaioRJ said:
Is it worth playing Online Poker to make money? the answer is no, because the system is rigged to make you lose and not take money from beginners, yes, it's possible to make money, but if you invested that time in another field you'd make a lot more money, that's the point.
There might be better ways to make money than playing poker. That is ultimately something, each person can only decide for themselfes. But it has absolutely nothing to do with "the system being rigged". By making such claims you just make yourself look ridiculous. Especially when you simultaneously care about the structure of particular CC freerolls and brag about depositing $6 and turning it into $20 playing 2NL......🤣🤣🤣
 
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fundiver199 said:
There might be better ways to make money than playing poker. That is ultimately something, each person can only decide for themselfes. But it has absolutely nothing to do with "the system being rigged". By making such claims you just make yourself look ridiculous. Especially when you simultaneously care about the structure of particular CC freerolls and brag about depositing $6 and turning it into $20 playing 2NL......🤣🤣🤣
I find it funny how stupid people like you think they're important, before I start this message I need to let you know that you're nothing, the arrogant tone of your message makes it clear you feel special, but you're only special to your family, even though I strongly believe not even they care about you, so to me you're insignificant.

I never bragged about winning 30 dollars, I only said I turned 6 dollars into 30 in a few days, I was a professional Poker player and I used my studies to pull that off, it was just an example, the central topic of the thread is Online Poker and Bad Beats and the only thing you did in your last message was make personal attacks against me, using quotes of mine from other messages and a thread I opened about changing a tournament's structure, that only proves how you're nothing but a loser, your attitude is trash, when a person resorts to personal attacks it proves they lost the argument, you know that, whether people should listen to me with admiration is going to depend on their own values, but I'm sure nobody would take a toxic failure like you seriously, toxic people like you shouldn't be admired, just isolated so they don't contaminate the rest, welcome to my ignore list, I recommend you stop wasting your time replying to my messages, I won't see any more of them, I hope you become a better person, loser.
 
Yes, definitely. After a while, I can tell when it’s just not my day, and no matter how well I play, I’m not going to win that day.
 
I’m not sure if you’re talking about cash games or tournaments. I only play tournaments. When you take a bad beat after starting off well, it can be really discouraging. Then you start trying to recover what you lost, and suddenly you see your stack getting smaller and smaller, leaving you with less time to recover in the tournament. I think the best thing to do is take a moment to breathe and calm down, then start trying to rebuild your stack little by little. No need to rush or panic.
 
CaioRJ said:
The words I'm going to use are harsh, but necessary.

We're living in 2026, the 21st Century, in the Decade of Artificial Intelligence, all Poker sites have casinos, how do casinos make money? by taking money from people, do you guys really think Online Poker isn't rigged? I've played over 1 million hands of Online Poker and I can say, Online Poker, especially Cash Game, is a completely rigged game, they don't want players like us, professionals, taking money from the FISH, because that's not profitable for the casino in the long run, if all beginners get plucked clean the house doesn't gain new customers, that's the truth, ONLINE POKER IS RIGGED. There is a way to beat the system's variance and make money, but you need to play a surreal amount of hands that go over 10 hours a day, all that to win a few dozen dollars and lose another few dozen the next day, if you got a job in another field you'd earn a lot more investing less time, so understand this, it's not worth playing Online Poker to make money, it should only be used as fun, a hobby, I won't even go into detail that 90+% of Poker players are broke and being propped up by sponsorships, pools and course sales, so that's the truth, making a living from Poker is a scam, it's possible to make money, but it's a profession that doesn't pay off.
It's ultimately very difficult to say for sure that it is or it isn't rigged. Because they have all the data and you only see your side of the statistics. There is no third party overlooking any poker site. They are a business, so obviously they need to be profitable. But we don't have access to data to prove anything. They self police and we are supposed to trust them. I trust no one who makes millions in profit. But I still play freerolls and as soon as I make a few bucks I spend it on cash games or a low buy in tournament and end up loosing. When I look at my GGPoker statistics it shows I made about a thousand dollars. I never withdrew any money from GG so I didn't make any profit. But they keep track of every cent you supposedly won. So if you spin 10 $ into 500 4, then lose it, to them you still made 500 $ in profit.
But like I said, I just play for fun and I'm a losing player online.
 
GrannySmit77 said:
It's ultimately very difficult to say for sure that it is or it isn't rigged. Because they have all the data and you only see your side of the statistics. There is no third party overlooking any poker site. They are a business, so obviously they need to be profitable. But we don't have access to data to prove anything. They self police and we are supposed to trust them. I trust no one who makes millions in profit. But I still play freerolls and as soon as I make a few bucks I spend it on cash games or a low buy in tournament and end up loosing. When I look at my GGPoker statistics it shows I made about a thousand dollars. I never withdrew any money from GG so I didn't make any profit. But they keep track of every cent you supposedly won. So if you spin 10 $ into 500 4, then lose it, to them you still made 500 $ in profit.
But like I said, I just play for fun and I'm a losing player online.

It doesn't say 'profit' on GG it sshows total winnings. (as in 'total cashes').

Many years ago there was a site that did have all of the data (PokerTableRatings) - - every single cash game hand played online was stored. It was much easier for people to analyze a site back then and to prove fair play (or not). I believe it was with help from PTR that the UB scandal was exposed. Zero evidence of a rigged site back then.

I've never heard of any good poker player ever suggesting or thinking an online poker site is rigged (I know a few). Years ago I read quite a bunch of stuff written by a former Cardschat regular who explained why it would be extremely difficult for a site to rig the games (he was in the IT profession). What he said made a lot of sense (I wish admin. had stickied a few of his longer posts 🙁 ). The players I know who are regularly winning players put in A LOT of study... even though they've played online for 15-20 years. You really need to if you expect to have hopes of winning at any stakes above the micros.
 
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CaioRJ said:
I find it funny how stupid people like you think they're important, before I start this message I need to let you know that you're nothing, the arrogant tone of your message makes it clear you feel special, but you're only special to your family, even though I strongly believe not even they care about you, so to me you're insignificant.

I never bragged about winning 30 dollars, I only said I turned 6 dollars into 30 in a few days, I was a professional Poker player and I used my studies to pull that off, it was just an example, the central topic of the thread is Online Poker and Bad Beats and the only thing you did in your last message was make personal attacks against me, using quotes of mine from other messages and a thread I opened about changing a tournament's structure, that only proves how you're nothing but a loser, your attitude is trash, when a person resorts to personal attacks it proves they lost the argument, you know that, whether people should listen to me with admiration is going to depend on their own values, but I'm sure nobody would take a toxic failure like you seriously, toxic people like you shouldn't be admired, just isolated so they don't contaminate the rest, welcome to my ignore list, I recommend you stop wasting your time replying to my messages, I won't see any more of them, I hope you become a better person, loser.

The things you are suggesting that fundiver is saying/doing is in fact the exact things you are doing to him here in this ^ post. One might consider/call this 'projecting'.
 
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GrannySmit77 said:
It's ultimately very difficult to say for sure that it is or it isn't rigged.
Its ultimately very difficult to say for sure, if your brother or your neighbour is a serial killer or not. But unless you have some kind of evidence, or charges have already been filed against them for this crime, this is not really a healthy way to think about the situation. The vast majority of people are not serial killers, so we should not go around and think "yeah maybe he is, or maybe he is not, who knows".

And unlike serial killers, which there have been quite a few off over the years, there has never been a proven case of the cards not being dealt randomly on an online poker site. There have been cases of players cheating, and sites not paying people out for various reasons. But not a single case of the cards not being dealt randomly over 25 years of online poker, where many sites have come and gone.
GrannySmit77 said:
There is no third party overlooking any poker site.
This is completely false. All the major sites like GG Poker, PokerStars etc. have licenses to operate in many countries like the UK, Germany, France, some US states, Ontario etc. And of course there is oversight of online casinos in these places, just like there is oversight with any other kind of business operating legally there. There might not be oversight in your particular country, if you live in a place, where online gambling is illegal, or there are just no laws about it. But then you will benefit from the oversight carried out by authorities in other countries.
GrannySmit77 said:
They are a business, so obviously they need to be profitable.
Yes and they make money from rake and tournament fees. Its actually very simple. Once people have bought into a tournament, the site has already made their profit, and it does not matter to them, who win the tournament.
GrannySmit77 said:
But we don't have access to data to prove anything.
This is also false. Online players have collected millions of hands in their trackers over the years, but of course only on sites, that allow it. These hands can be subjected to statistical analysis to prove any sort of anomalies, and none have ever been found.
GrannySmit77 said:
I trust no one who makes millions in profit.
So basically you trust no private company over a certain size then? Meaning you will never but a car, because you trust neither Toyota, Ford, GM, Tesla etc.?
GrannySmit77 said:
When I look at my GGPoker statistics it shows I made about a thousand dollars. I never withdrew any money from GG so I didn't make any profit. But they keep track of every cent you supposedly won. So if you spin 10 $ into 500 4, then lose it, to them you still made 500 $ in profit.
Yes that statistic is useless, and GG Poker is one of the least transparent sites, that ever existed. With other sites you can check your tournament results on sharkscope, and there are also sites, that track cash game results in a similar way. GG Poker is the biggest, but the are certainly not the best, so you could consider trying to play somewhere else. It seems like, you are living in Canada, and there are still many canadians playing on PokerStars. So maybe try them, if you want something more transparent. They allow the use of trackers, and you can also use Sharkscope to track your results.
 
I've been having sessions like that for years .The only difference is that i seldom 'start out fine ' .
 
Yeah, definitely. I think knowing when to close the table is actually one of the most important skills in poker. Once you notice you're chasing losses or getting frustrated, it's usually better to walk away and come back with a clear mind. We've all had those sessions.
 
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