ACR 10 dollar on demand freerolls-BOTS

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NANUNANU said:
i wasnt aware there was so much botting going on. How much of an advantage do bots have it would seem like bots can be exploited ...no?
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good question! how do you exploit equilibrium system? in the long run, bot beats human!

besides that point: ACR REP - please, escalate the investigation / arrest prizes for this weeks leaderboard, because it is 70% bots - 7 out of 10 are cheating! and security dept. investigate and ban the perpetrators!
 
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the only legitimate players from leaderboard who deserve the prize are:

Aleksand19
wizzla86
stan4444
 
poolsharkbps (WPN)

another bot


This week's total:
7 bots, 3 humans in the leaderboard
ACR/BCP - urgent take action, right now!!! or this is a joke!


"By the end of the weekly competition, if you've accumulated enough points to finish in the top 10 of the Americas Cardroom Freeroll Leaderboard you will receive a free entry to the Sit & Crush tournament. If you're our first place finisher you also receive a tournament entry for our Sunday's $215 buy in event!"

So, basically, you giwe away $215 ticket every week + sit&crush entries to leeches! think about it! every single week! time to end this circus, don't you think?


"There’s no limit to how many On Demand freerolls you can enter, so keep entering and play for free as often as you like."
>Yeah, especially if you are a bot: don't sleep, don't eat and play 25 hours a day 🙂!<
 
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1 Gatortish27 59 Sunday and Regular Tourney Entry BOT
2 ACR1938374 51 Tourney Entry BOT
3 1DeadPhish 50 Tourney Entry BOT
4 luckystar1 41 Tourney Entry BOT
5 Aleksand19 40 Tourney Entry HUMAN
6 poolsharkbp... 36 Tourney Entry BOT
7 ABigPair 34 Tourney Entry BOT
8 Stuungar50 32 Tourney Entry BOT
9 wizzla86 30 Tourney Entry HUMAN
10 stan4444 30 Tourney Entry HUMAN
 
I've been in the top 10 in this and I've won this . If you put the time in it's very achievable.

Not A Bot , lol
 
GODZZ said:
I've been in the top 10 in this and I've won this . If you put the time in it's very achievable.

Not A Bot , lol
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congratulations, you made it; but that is besides the point!

why do i have to fight so many automated bots in order to get into top10? i'd prefer humans! and i can't play 24x30, obviously... don't you think there is some action to be taken by authorities!?
 
Wow...wtf? Why is Rogue doing the job that ACR should be doing already? And there are some defending the site in the "Rigged" thread(s)?
 
MEJ said:
Wow...wtf? Why is Rogue doing the job that ACR should be doing already? And there are some defending the site in the "Rigged" thread(s)?
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Both terms are totally different my friend, the fact that people is always trying to find a way to cheat the system, does not mean that our software is altered, we are the Poker room most trusted in US since 2011 and not because the software is rigged.

Our security support is always looking at the tables to avoid these type of frauds that affects other players. However, if you want to report someone with suspicious activity, we will be more than glad to review and if indeed we will close the account and all related accounts if we find this person is indeed using bots.

Everytime that we find a bridge, we fix it by using better security tools, closing all related accounts and more procedures we implement. However, is a daily working task that we do 24/7, poker is a perfect target to commit fraud, all poker sites in fact, banks, online stores, even social media... Here at Americas Cardroom we try to be as transparent as we can, making players nicknames visible so you can report anything you want that we will look into it.
 
Pretty gross to see that theres cheaters in online play....
might do more live from now on -.-
 
Thank you but make sure you get your facts straight

NisiLith said:
Gatortish27 (WPN)

800 games in June, 2016 - you tell me how do you make it in 30 days, just check his stats on sharkscope; it's 27 games per 24 hours per 30 days straight; exploiting freerolls and $25 on-demand tourneys with buy-in $0.50
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I would like to start off by saying thank you to everyone for taking the time to help clean up the games. Some people might not see the value in it but it helps protect the integrity of the game. I am glad that I stumbled upon this thread through the 2+2 forums since my name was specifically mentioned here. This is ironic in itself since I recently started a thread on 2+2 and helped take down a bunch of these scumbags, link here:
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/218/winning-poker-network/massive-multi-accounting-bot-ring-acr-1610998/

I used a different name there because i didn't want any of the idiots i brought down to come after me in any way. As you can see in that thread i provided more evidence than just "they play a lot, they must be bots!"

1) From my experience in bot hunting they seem to only play freerolls, but there are some exceptions as i mentioned there.

2) They play 24hrs a day, 7 days a week because they are idiots.

3) They are from random countries that I'd be surprised if they had running water and electricity, much less WiFi lol.

4) All the accounts were opened around the same time

There are plenty more red flags you can find if you just keep an eye out. My overall point is that you can't label someone as a bot if they put in big volume. Yes, if they are playing 24/7 for a long period of time it is fairly obvious. I am talking about putting in 12-18 hrs a day. That is very doable given that your schedule allows it.

There is one simple solution to all of this that can take away any doubt... have ACR verify their accounts. This is a vigorous validation process that will eliminate any doubt. I don't think they will be able to provide a utility bill from their tree hut in Zambia lol.

ACR Rep... please make sure that due diligence is done when catching these guys. Players need to be protected from the scumbags but we also need to be protected from getting mislabeled as one. I am open to any further discussion if need be but I think the solution for this is simple.
 
Whoever points the finger at someone has 4 more pointing at himself.

@Gatortish27 - Nothing like being accused and convicted without a trial, eh?

NisiLith said:
Greetings, friends! Here i come; just started playing poke about 9 month ago and i am already spending days and nights on various freerolls, mastering my game; there is so much to read - my eyes hurt sometimes; but i just can not lay off the game 😛 i kinda like it and it may become my obsession;
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@NisiLith of Latvia - Playing on "AmericasCardroom". All your posts are in bot related threads. Could it be you are a sore botter who is just out to get your competition? "spending days and nights on various freerolls", "just can not lay off the game"?

You seem a little too obsessed with botting. My bot detector is going off on you. Before you go accusing more potentially innocent people, why don't you post your ACR screen name so we can check your playing habits?
 
That's why rigged was in quotes, ACR Rep/OhShootMyBad.

It doesn't matter to me if it's software or players somehow cheating. If the integrity of the site is compromised, then the site is "rigged".

ACR Rep said:
Both terms are totally different my friend, the fact that people is always trying to find a way to cheat the system, does not mean that our software is altered, we are the Poker room most trusted in US since 2011 and not because the software is rigged.

Our security support is always looking at the tables to avoid these type of frauds that affects other players. However, if you want to report someone with suspicious activity, we will be more than glad to review and if indeed we will close the account and all related accounts if we find this person is indeed using bots.

Everytime that we find a bridge, we fix it by using better security tools, closing all related accounts and more procedures we implement. However, is a daily working task that we do 24/7, poker is a perfect target to commit fraud, all poker sites in fact, banks, online stores, even social media... Here at Americas Cardroom we try to be as transparent as we can, making players nicknames visible so you can report anything you want that we will look into it.
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How can you be sure that these usernamestruggles are bots, based on last post where you are claiming the few that are human they have similar stats as the "bots" I am not discrediting you or your observations and I am completely against cheating in any form I am just curious as to how you came to this conclusion
 
doesnt a human have to regerster them into the tourney though, so how do they play around the clock you cant pre reg for the on demand tourneys
 
Good point

Socialpro29 said:
How can you be sure that these usernamestruggles are bots, based on last post where you are claiming the few that are human they have similar stats as the "bots" I am not discrediting you or your observations and I am completely against cheating in any form I am just curious as to how you came to this conclusion
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Thanks for bringing up an excellent point. It's probably because his username is one of the ones he listed as "human" lol
 
supernuts25 said:
doesnt a human have to regerster them into the tourney though, so how do they play around the clock you cant pre reg for the on demand tourneys
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there is a software called tournament registration bot, which is a standalone tool from bots - it reads the lobby and registers on to tourneys automatically;
that's how you get them working 24/7;

i did some study on internet; if you can read and comprehend it, you can find all the detailed information in no time!

@gatortish, i think you did not answer the question [if it is really the player with your name and not some troll] - how does gatortish plays 800 freerolls in 30 days?
and targeting ONLY freerolls and $0.50, huh? let's hear it!
you mentioned you played 16-18 hours each day for the period of 30 days, daily! really! you are that dedicated? but the math doesn't add up, isn't it?

anyways, i will keep checking weekly on-demand results and reporting them both to ACR, WPN and on 2+2 relevant topics; hope we clean most out soon!
 
800 tourneys in a month is some serious volume. If it's human, I'm impressed. I've never been able to play the volume required to clear a bonus.
 
NisiLith said:
there is a software called tournament registration bot, which is a standalone tool from bots - it reads the lobby and registers on to tourneys automatically;
that's how you get them working 24/7
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It is pretty interesting how you know so much about botting and their automated software. I noticed that you didn't respond to Holder's proposition that you post your screen name to see what your playing habits are :smile:


NisiLith said:
@gatortish, i think you did not answer the question [if it is really the player with your name and not some troll] - how does gatortish plays 800 freerolls in 30 days?
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If you are going to throw out numbers make sure they are correct. Looking over the last 4 months, I have averaged 530 freerolls per month, not the 800 that you claim. I average 830 games per month total when you factor in all the other mtts i play throughout the day. It is not hard to get this volume when you play a variety of game types, see below.


NisiLith said:
and targeting ONLY freerolls and $0.50, huh? let's hear it!
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I have actually only recently been grinding out the $0.50 on demands. If you take a harder look you will find that i play: On Demand freerolls, $0.50 On Demand mtts, $3.30 (1.5k gtd) daily, $11 (7.5k gtd), $11 (10k gtd), $22 (25k gtd), $2 Jackpots, and I used to play the $1 and $2 Newbie mtts everyday until they took them away.
 
Most telling thing is the accusation that ACR "likes bots". Not surprising at all. Totally believable.
 
i want back to back top 10's in the $10 od leaderboard its a grind but its rewarding to me. ksidrew you can find leaderboard announcments tab and promotions tab click on 10od scrool down goooder luck fools
 
Gatortish27 said:
It is pretty interesting how you know so much about botting and their automated software. I noticed that you didn't respond to Holder's proposition that you post your screen name to see what your playing habits are :smile:









If you are going to throw out numbers make sure they are correct. Looking over the last 4 months, I have averaged 530 freerolls per month, not the 800 that you claim. I average 830 games per month total when you factor in all the other mtts i play throughout the day. It is not hard to get this volume when you play a variety of game types, see below.









I have actually only recently been grinding out the $0.50 on demands. If you take a harder look you will find that i play: On Demand freerolls, $0.50 On Demand mtts, $3.30 (1.5k gtd) daily, $11 (7.5k gtd), $11 (10k gtd), $22 (25k gtd), $2 Jackpots, and I used to play the $1 and $2 Newbie mtts everyday until they took them away.
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just saying. i play on ACR with gatortish. she kills $10 freerolls haha and is def on all those tables
 
so, playing ~17+ hours a day straight for 30 days - it is possible, you say?!
i highly doubt it, you don't need to sleep, take shower, eat, etc;
you couldn't even do this if you were in jail, sitting in solitary!

you can count on it, that i will review ACR $10 on-demand once more, let's see what bots we catch now!
 
The on demand freerolls need 270 to start...2.. 7.. o..ff suit. Cool. Just sayin'.
 
A very good thread started originally by Jrbobdobbs64 and continued by some.I've just read it all . Especially the adds and documents presented by RogueRivered were very storg evidence about what was really happening .

I was really impressed by all these , particularly the screenshot with the inlogical reraises instead of allins. Ihave seen many times these raises not only on wpn, but on many site , then , I don't know, should I laugh or should I be angry ....

I read everything , every posts about the bots on winner poker network .I personally don't play these freerolls on American Cardroom , I play them for fun on duckpoker site , to get more used to the software and to play better generally (and for another reason which I explained in another forum...).There , I witnessed all these , but '' you cannot do anything to avoid it '' I was saying to myself .
I was suspecting they were bots , I found a strategy ,a more aggressive loose way of TAG playing (if there weren not for the bots there were donkeys , both a big obstacle to reach the final table) to beat this play and reach sometimes, very rarily with low stack the final table .

There are a lot of bots everywhere. I think there is no site with no bot problem , the bigger sites like pokerstars or 888poker just are more able , with more personel and technology at their service , to cover up and conceal many bot cases or other frauds . If they close thir accounts they open new ones , I don't know what can stop them , maybe prosecute them , sue them or sth , if it is possible .
 
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