aren't you? I'm not gonna tell you which ones you're missing😛zinzir said:
ok I get it 🙂 no ones playing CC freerolls at ACR or BCP right now but normally I play 5 sites 🙂
was hoping you were missing one so we could have a chance 😛
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carlosnuno said:
Many newer players feel this ^ way.
I guess I must be wrong... .because when I'm playing online poker I KNOW that I'm turning on a game of strategy. It's too bad you've chosen to think otherwise. imo, you're missing out on soooooo much.
PokerBros and PPPoker is just another elaborate Ponzi scheme and platform for organized card cheaters to enrich themselves. How many stories about players being owed 10's of thousands of dollars have to be told after some on-line cardroom or club fails to pay it's players. Even in live games there is cheating -- just look at the Mike Postle incident.
All of these on-line poker players will sooner or later become just like all of Bernie Madoff's victims. All of his victims were earning dividends and believed that everything Bernie was doing was legitimate until the truth came out and they all landed flat broke on their asses. Greed and an underlying if not full blown gambling addiction is why people can't and won't admit that on-line gambling is shady. There is just way too much money involved and too many criminals proliferating on such on-line gaming platforms for anybody to consider any given platform 100% safe. Like I said, people who want to play poker recreationally or for a living should do so inside of a trusted and regulated casino.
All of these on-line poker players will sooner or later become just like all of Bernie Madoff's victims. All of his victims were earning dividends and believed that everything Bernie was doing was legitimate until the truth came out and they all landed flat broke on their asses. Greed and an underlying if not full blown gambling addiction is why people can't and won't admit that on-line gambling is shady. There is just way too much money involved and too many criminals proliferating on such on-line gaming platforms for anybody to consider any given platform 100% safe. Like I said, people who want to play poker recreationally or for a living should do so inside of a trusted and regulated casino.
It is a scam
I can tell you right now.
Any one who is defending this App is either an agent trying to defend it? Or a hacker who wants people to keep dumping money in. It is not properly regulated.
The app is designed to keep the money flowing in from the agents to certain players. Period. End of story. Speaking from a pro player who is now down $5000 and this is from proper stellar money management. Don’t come here talking all that bullshit about losing players. Who complain about online poker. Etc.
The app is rigged. Variance is an excuse every single so called knowledgeable short term winner will use as to why something happens to defend the bullshit gambling Apps they love.
But flushes will ALWAYS lose to boats if all in against certain players. Sets will ALWAYS lose to straights if against certain
Players. Anytime you are a 90% favorite or close to it on your “multi time” it will always run out for the underdog. If against certain players.
If you are a tight pro player? The app will punish you by running cards against you in any all in. Why? Because it is the only time you expose yourself enough for the app to beat you.
Do not play on poker bro’s. Not all agents are created equal some of them even believe it’s legit themselves.
Report this shit. It has been going on robbing people for far too long
I can tell you right now.
Any one who is defending this App is either an agent trying to defend it? Or a hacker who wants people to keep dumping money in. It is not properly regulated.
The app is designed to keep the money flowing in from the agents to certain players. Period. End of story. Speaking from a pro player who is now down $5000 and this is from proper stellar money management. Don’t come here talking all that bullshit about losing players. Who complain about online poker. Etc.
The app is rigged. Variance is an excuse every single so called knowledgeable short term winner will use as to why something happens to defend the bullshit gambling Apps they love.
But flushes will ALWAYS lose to boats if all in against certain players. Sets will ALWAYS lose to straights if against certain
Players. Anytime you are a 90% favorite or close to it on your “multi time” it will always run out for the underdog. If against certain players.
If you are a tight pro player? The app will punish you by running cards against you in any all in. Why? Because it is the only time you expose yourself enough for the app to beat you.
Do not play on poker bro’s. Not all agents are created equal some of them even believe it’s legit themselves.
Report this shit. It has been going on robbing people for far too long
Chicungulla said:
It is not variance you’re losing too. It’s a complete sham.
It is designed to keep the money cycling in certain directions. And none of them include your balance for a cash out. If you win? Or get lucky? It’s because you either have a new account? Or? They are setting you up to lose that money. Every penny of it. To another player who will cycle it to someone else? Or one of their horses.
Do not play there. It’s not variance. It’s rigged.
someone explain this to me... i have my owner poker club.. we have about 20 players.. we never paid a penny to pokerbros.. we play $20 tournaments pay each other with venmo..
how is pokerbros scamming us?
also if i owned the app poker bros... and i was dishonest.. i could easily do so without no one ever knowing it.. only would need a few players in on the scam.. could win millions.. and only effect the odds by a very small percentage.. there would be no way for anyone to know..
this biggest issue with online poker is collaboration,, 2 or 3 people working together on a cash game can change the odds pretty quicks... that $30 poker tournament with 200 players... you and your best friend can play and may never end up on the same table..
how is pokerbros scamming us?
also if i owned the app poker bros... and i was dishonest.. i could easily do so without no one ever knowing it.. only would need a few players in on the scam.. could win millions.. and only effect the odds by a very small percentage.. there would be no way for anyone to know..
this biggest issue with online poker is collaboration,, 2 or 3 people working together on a cash game can change the odds pretty quicks... that $30 poker tournament with 200 players... you and your best friend can play and may never end up on the same table..
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I have never played on poker bro’s. The idea that you can’t just sign up but you gotta DM an “agent” to join his “club”. Seems awfully shady. Why isn’t the club info available online or on Facebook or wherever. These poker salesman I see in the forums always ply there product but tell potential players private message me or can I message you the details. Why the secret? Always here of these club runners and scams. Weather it be agents keeping money that isn’t there or what. I would tell anyone playing these apps to be very careful and find the details and reviews out before becoming a victim. I just subscribe to the idea that if I have any reservations than it’s not for me. Hopefully they get regulated and this opinion changes.
POKER BROS SCAMMED ME FOR $1260
Hello, I am a hip hop artist & a well known donkey in (PLO) poker games from Houston to LA ( Seriously) I shove in pre flop not caring of the outcome consistently. Just because I like the thrill, Here recently my agent took $1260 out of my account and now isn’t responding to me. I’ll attach screen shots but I do not have the energy to go into detail. But to everyone who has been scammed I’ll make sure every media outlet in America addresses that pokerbros is a scam. Watch!
Hello, I am a hip hop artist & a well known donkey in (PLO) poker games from Houston to LA ( Seriously) I shove in pre flop not caring of the outcome consistently. Just because I like the thrill, Here recently my agent took $1260 out of my account and now isn’t responding to me. I’ll attach screen shots but I do not have the energy to go into detail. But to everyone who has been scammed I’ll make sure every media outlet in America addresses that pokerbros is a scam. Watch!
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i seen some advertising that,hopefully i never have to play mobile poker again in my lifetime .but I had weird feeling when I saw it ,flash in the pan syndrome
I run my own pokerbros club
I'm afraid i dont agree that pokerbros is inherently a scam.
The shady element comes from the fact that you have absolutely no recourse, should an agent run off with your money. Pokerbros t&cs prohibit any real money play - that's not to say that they are not aware of the real money play that goes on - they 100% are. The app is built to support agents and rakeback deals and the whole works.
However because the app itself forbids real money play, it makes regulation moreorless impossible.
I run my own club and players are paid out whenever they want through paypal, all deposits are held in a separate account to my personal one, and I complete daily accounting checks to ensure all balances are accounted for. (to avoid a full tilt esque ponzi-type situation) I make plenty of cash off the rake, my only desire is to have a field of happy poker players who are hitting the tables as frequently as possible.
I cant comment on the Random Number Generator as the sample of hands I have is too small to draw any conclusions (about 15k hands)
But if anything untoward shows its head I will update here.
As a summary, it's not the app that's shady, it's the shady people who are shady.
I'm afraid i dont agree that pokerbros is inherently a scam.
The shady element comes from the fact that you have absolutely no recourse, should an agent run off with your money. Pokerbros t&cs prohibit any real money play - that's not to say that they are not aware of the real money play that goes on - they 100% are. The app is built to support agents and rakeback deals and the whole works.
However because the app itself forbids real money play, it makes regulation moreorless impossible.
I run my own club and players are paid out whenever they want through paypal, all deposits are held in a separate account to my personal one, and I complete daily accounting checks to ensure all balances are accounted for. (to avoid a full tilt esque ponzi-type situation) I make plenty of cash off the rake, my only desire is to have a field of happy poker players who are hitting the tables as frequently as possible.
I cant comment on the Random Number Generator as the sample of hands I have is too small to draw any conclusions (about 15k hands)
But if anything untoward shows its head I will update here.
As a summary, it's not the app that's shady, it's the shady people who are shady.
_Turtle_ said:
Any site that knowingly allows there rules to be broken and doesn’t have the players fund securely in a segregated account is obv suspect. I’m always seeing agents trying to solicit customers by private message. Why the need to private message? Why can’t they openly give there information. Seems shady.
Also, I have seen several warnings of theft and agents running off with player funds. Hearing that the site offers no recourse or protection makes me not trust or play it. Unsure if anyone plays there, I would like to know their experiences?
Poker bros is not a scam but beware of rogue agents
Hello Forum members My name is RagsRGold I recently joined a club in poker bros I was pleased with the site over all intially deposited 50 bucks with PayPal (they have multiple payment options Bitcoin cash app etc) sat down at a 20 forty cent table nlh and in six hours turned that into 545 dollars ended up walking away with 445 I also placed in the money in three tournies the site is legit different clubs offer different incentives and cadhout options the club I belong too does cashouts every Monday and they are Instant I repeat Instant. Some friendly advice for players new to or interested in poker bros first if ahead in an all in hand never run it twice you will almost always chop but if behind and offered take it secondly if three and four bet you are most certainly dominated keep that in mind when playing hands such as KJ K10 A10 queen ace offe king ace off etc finally know that a smaller pocket 95% of tha time will lose to a higher pocket pair don't expect a lucky outdraw it almost never happens good luck hope it was informative and hope too see some of you there I have photos of my winnings and screen shots of someone could respond and tell me how to find the URL for them I will gladly share them 😀😀😉
Hello Forum members My name is RagsRGold I recently joined a club in poker bros I was pleased with the site over all intially deposited 50 bucks with PayPal (they have multiple payment options Bitcoin cash app etc) sat down at a 20 forty cent table nlh and in six hours turned that into 545 dollars ended up walking away with 445 I also placed in the money in three tournies the site is legit different clubs offer different incentives and cadhout options the club I belong too does cashouts every Monday and they are Instant I repeat Instant. Some friendly advice for players new to or interested in poker bros first if ahead in an all in hand never run it twice you will almost always chop but if behind and offered take it secondly if three and four bet you are most certainly dominated keep that in mind when playing hands such as KJ K10 A10 queen ace offe king ace off etc finally know that a smaller pocket 95% of tha time will lose to a higher pocket pair don't expect a lucky outdraw it almost never happens good luck hope it was informative and hope too see some of you there I have photos of my winnings and screen shots of someone could respond and tell me how to find the URL for them I will gladly share them 😀😀😉
I have been m.i.a for awhile and wanted to do a follow-up on my posting. First off, all of these degenerate gamblers (because poker is gambling -- anything with any type of luck involved is gambling) will always put up a tinpot argument about anyone claiming on-line poker is a SCAM or RIGGED is just a whiner and sore-loser and bad player. It is the same tired narrative offered by so many who ignore the litany of evidence of cheating, ghosting, colluding, absconding, etc. Anyone remember Full Tilt? Absolute Poker? Pokerstars? How about all of these shady on-line poker rooms that are all conveniently tucked away in 3rd world banana republics outside the jurisdiction of US law enforcement and regulators.
Here is the modus operandi for most Poker clubs on PokerBros. Agents always insist on sending funds v.i.a bitcoin, Cash App, PayPal, Zelle, etc. The first four depositing methods are no different than sending cash in the mail. Anyone can disappear into the dark with cryptocurrency. Anyone can create a fake Cash App, Venmo, PayPal, and/or any other similar service and either a) abscond with player funds altogether or 2) Run a Ponzi scheme (most likely scenario with most of these shady clubs) and payout certain players just to keep them hooked while referring others into the scheme.
These are facts:
1) There are bots on Pokerbros. Artificial intelligence has already proven capable of beating even the most advanced poker professionals in the world.
2) Collusion. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING anyone can show to demonstrate that collusion is being prevented. Collusion has and always will be apart of on-line poker and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.
3) The RNG is a joke. And all of these BS accreditation created inside of corrupt 3rd world banana republic does not prove that super-users do not exist that allow them to see player whole cards and rob players blind of their money.
Mike Postle and his conspirator stole almost half a million dollars in a live game at the Stone casinos. Joey Ingrim (one of the most respected names in poker) even demonstrated how the cheating could be accomplished and how the cheating was most likely executed. That said, if this can happen inside of a brick & mortar poker room, then none of those who replied to this thread have a leg to stand on with using the rebuttal that those who make these claims are whiners and bad poker players.
4) I personally met an agent for a very large Pokerbros Poker club who not only gets kickbacks from new recruits, but also cheats those same recruits and other players by running multiple accounts. He was seated one night at at a live cash game with multiple devices cheating players in plain sight.
5) Most of these poker clubs always have zealous agents that preach these app to the masses because they are financially incentivized to do so. None of these "agents" are going to be going out of their way on social media and by word of mouth to obtain recruits for free. Is this a HUGE conspiracy? Yes. It is a conspiracy meant to quickly enrich those involved while throwing a few crumbs back to the masses for plausible deniability.
For every degenerate gambler jack-off who claims they have earned some money on these crooked poker sites and poker applications none of them ever want to discuss the torrent of losers which are the majority.
I recently read a story about a man who was killed in a robbery only so his assailants could get away with petty cash and a cell phone. Does anyone really think that the invisible people running these Poker clubs on these applications are not pissing themselves laughing knowing how much money they are robbing from people, in addition to these individuals knowing that players have absolutely NO RECOURSE whatsoever to recover their money after they get scammed by dishonest agents, colluders, super-users, and an RNG that most likely has a backdoor built into it and that can be manipulated at will by those who have access to the source code....
On-line poker is one big SCAM! A scam that uses prominent poker names and flashy marketing and the promises of quick riches that are used to keep the charade going on until law enforcement shuts it down. I can't think of one on-line poker brand that hasn't been involved in criminal malfeasance.
Readers... do yourselves a favor and stay away from Pokerbros.
Here is the modus operandi for most Poker clubs on PokerBros. Agents always insist on sending funds v.i.a bitcoin, Cash App, PayPal, Zelle, etc. The first four depositing methods are no different than sending cash in the mail. Anyone can disappear into the dark with cryptocurrency. Anyone can create a fake Cash App, Venmo, PayPal, and/or any other similar service and either a) abscond with player funds altogether or 2) Run a Ponzi scheme (most likely scenario with most of these shady clubs) and payout certain players just to keep them hooked while referring others into the scheme.
These are facts:
1) There are bots on Pokerbros. Artificial intelligence has already proven capable of beating even the most advanced poker professionals in the world.
2) Collusion. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING anyone can show to demonstrate that collusion is being prevented. Collusion has and always will be apart of on-line poker and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.
3) The RNG is a joke. And all of these BS accreditation created inside of corrupt 3rd world banana republic does not prove that super-users do not exist that allow them to see player whole cards and rob players blind of their money.
Mike Postle and his conspirator stole almost half a million dollars in a live game at the Stone casinos. Joey Ingrim (one of the most respected names in poker) even demonstrated how the cheating could be accomplished and how the cheating was most likely executed. That said, if this can happen inside of a brick & mortar poker room, then none of those who replied to this thread have a leg to stand on with using the rebuttal that those who make these claims are whiners and bad poker players.
4) I personally met an agent for a very large Pokerbros Poker club who not only gets kickbacks from new recruits, but also cheats those same recruits and other players by running multiple accounts. He was seated one night at at a live cash game with multiple devices cheating players in plain sight.
5) Most of these poker clubs always have zealous agents that preach these app to the masses because they are financially incentivized to do so. None of these "agents" are going to be going out of their way on social media and by word of mouth to obtain recruits for free. Is this a HUGE conspiracy? Yes. It is a conspiracy meant to quickly enrich those involved while throwing a few crumbs back to the masses for plausible deniability.
For every degenerate gambler jack-off who claims they have earned some money on these crooked poker sites and poker applications none of them ever want to discuss the torrent of losers which are the majority.
I recently read a story about a man who was killed in a robbery only so his assailants could get away with petty cash and a cell phone. Does anyone really think that the invisible people running these Poker clubs on these applications are not pissing themselves laughing knowing how much money they are robbing from people, in addition to these individuals knowing that players have absolutely NO RECOURSE whatsoever to recover their money after they get scammed by dishonest agents, colluders, super-users, and an RNG that most likely has a backdoor built into it and that can be manipulated at will by those who have access to the source code....
On-line poker is one big SCAM! A scam that uses prominent poker names and flashy marketing and the promises of quick riches that are used to keep the charade going on until law enforcement shuts it down. I can't think of one on-line poker brand that hasn't been involved in criminal malfeasance.
Readers... do yourselves a favor and stay away from Pokerbros.
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I have two more FACTS to add to my update: It is prohibited to use Venmo, PayPal, Cashapp for unlawful and unregulated gambling. Additionally, it is against state gambling laws for these agents to be taking bets on Pokerbros or PPPoker without proper licenses or authority.
Fact #2: There are a handful of very well known poker players that are now under criminal investigation for doing exactly what I just described in this posting.
Do not be surprised when the news breaks that these too cool for school poker pros that have been acting in concert with these platforms and purported "agents" are indicted by a grand jury on a litany of criminal charges.
All of those who responded to this thread advocating these scam applications will all be singing a different tune when their money is seized and their illegal poker clubs are shut down.
Fact #2: There are a handful of very well known poker players that are now under criminal investigation for doing exactly what I just described in this posting.
Do not be surprised when the news breaks that these too cool for school poker pros that have been acting in concert with these platforms and purported "agents" are indicted by a grand jury on a litany of criminal charges.
All of those who responded to this thread advocating these scam applications will all be singing a different tune when their money is seized and their illegal poker clubs are shut down.