Kawhi Leonard being traded to Toronto!!

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jho said:
Well they weren't really attracting free agents before... So that part hasn't changed lol
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DeRozan is overrated, Toronto was much better overall with him on the bench the last 5 years, with him on the floor they were +0.5 pts better on offense but -3.2 on defense, he will be 29 in a few weeks, SA got a bad deal.
 
I feel like the Spurs get more out of this trade at the end of the day. They win this trade. Raptors give up a pick and will probably only get Kawhi for a year. Even if they dump Derozan's contract it doesn't seem very smart. Might as well have had Derozan play out his contract. Raptors GM must have hated Derozan to do this.
 
NoPlace4U said:
DeRozan is overrated, Toronto was much better overall with him on the bench the last 5 years, with him on the floor they were +0.5 pts better on offense but -3.2 on defense, he will be 29 in a few weeks, SA got a bad deal.
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How is it a bad deal? Toronto got basically nothing. And gave away a solid young big man, A future first round pick, and Derozan who at least was loyal to Toronto. Now you get a player who may leave halfway through the season and will definitely not stay longer then a year. So basically you just get Danny Green. Spurs won this trade. Derozan can't shoot 3's at all which is bad and isn't the best defensively even though he should be looking at his athleticism. Still I think Raptors lost cause they get basically nothing back! It will sell tickets though.
 
I agree if kwahi is there for the whole season. If that's the case then the spurs got the better deal by far. If they can unload kwahi via trade though, like i said further up in the topic, they could probably get over value from him. In that case they got the better trade by far. Toronto just kinda traded positions with San Antonio really, and they would be wise to do the same and trade him before he can walk away.
 
I'm curious as to if it will sell tickets... they snaked the face of their team, who was loyal, and fans appreciate that. I want to see how the fans there react when the season starts. I'm thinking they might take a hit in attendance early on and unless the team way over performs, I could see it continuing through the season.
bernotasiggy said:
How is it a bad deal? Toronto got basically nothing. And gave away a solid young big man, A future first round pick, and Derozan who at least was loyal to Toronto. Now you get a player who may leave halfway through the season and will definitely not stay longer then a year. So basically you just get Danny Green. Spurs won this trade. Derozan can't shoot 3's at all which is bad and isn't the best defensively even though he should be looking at his athleticism. Still I think Raptors lost cause they get basically nothing back! It will sell tickets though.
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Synopsis said:
I'm curious as to if it will sell tickets... they snaked the face of their team, who was loyal, and fans appreciate that. I want to see how the fans there react when the season starts. I'm thinking they might take a hit in attendance early on and unless the team way over performs, I could see it continuing through the season.
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Raptors had a 100.2% attendance I am not even sure how that is possible, they were #4 in attendance. Mavs were 103.1% in attendance. Can anyone explain how it is possible to be over 100% in attendance? Do they not follow capacity laws or something?

http://www.espn.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct
 
They probably only count base seats for attendance. So luxury boxes, and some kind of standing room only probably counts above the 100. Just a guess though.
 
Synopsis said:
They probably only count base seats for attendance. So luxury boxes, and some kind of standing room only probably counts above the 100. Just a guess though.
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Maybe it is related to the players who give 110% effort! LOL
 
bernotasiggy said:
How is it a bad deal? Toronto got basically nothing. And gave away a solid young big man, A future first round pick, and Derozan who at least was loyal to Toronto. Now you get a player who may leave halfway through the season and will definitely not stay longer then a year. So basically you just get Danny Green. Spurs won this trade. Derozan can't shoot 3's at all which is bad and isn't the best defensively even though he should be looking at his athleticism. Still I think Raptors lost cause they get basically nothing back! It will sell tickets though.
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SA needed young assets or picks, the worst place to be in the NBA is the middle of the pack, that team inst good enough to win a championship not to mention that it is a old team but also they are not gonna miss the playoffs anytime soon, so no lottery picks.
 
They ship them off to San Antonio so attendance will be down for sure then... 😀
SPANKYSN said:
Maybe it is related to the players who give 110% effort! LOL
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Raptors should trade leonard to lakers to join lebron james... But leonard health is still the factor.
 
Yonip17 said:
Raptors should trade leonard to lakers to join lebron james... But leonard health is still the factor.
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Why would the lakers want to trade for him when they can get him for nothing except signing him next year. Raptors probably wouldn't want to trade him for nothing. The only trade that would work cap wise is trading a big piece for the Lakers which they wouldn't and shouldn't do.
 
bernotasiggy said:
Why would the lakers want to trade for him when they can get him for nothing except signing him next year. Raptors probably wouldn't want to trade him for nothing. The only trade that would work cap wise is trading a big piece for the Lakers which they wouldn't and shouldn't do.
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The Paul George factor is one reason why.
 
he will be traded to a contender at the allstar break he doesnt want to be in tor
 
I don't trust Kawhi. Not sure if he is ever going to be as good as he was before his injury. I question his will to win. I feel like his success has undermined his drive to play and win.
 
Kanetuck said:
I don't trust Kawhi. Not sure if he is ever going to be as good as he was before his injury. I question his will to win. I feel like his success has undermined his drive to play and win.
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The whole situation was so surreal. I really think Kawhi got his feelings hurt, and that's what caused the breakup.
 
The spurs got a better deal, getting a legit superstar plus more, in exchange for kawhi whom toronto could not be sure if they can keep him after a year.
 
Kawhi sent a thank you letter today

I wonder just how thankful Spurs fans are to receive that after that very un-spurs like drama.
 
If I'm Toronto I wouldn't have done this because they aren't in a position to take a shot at a championship and they are very unlikely to sign Kawhi after this season. They could have just kept Derozan who was loyal and who the city loved. Instead most likely after this season they will just be left with Lowry.
 
NoETdrizzle said:
If I'm Toronto I wouldn't have done this because they aren't in a position to take a shot at a championship and they are very unlikely to sign Kawhi after this season. They could have just kept Derozan who was loyal and who the city loved. Instead most likely after this season they will just be left with Lowry.
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You have to be in it to win it.

The fact of the matter is that with Kawhi it definitely gives Toronto their absolute best chance at a title is he's healthy
 
Great trade! 😀 We want a Championship and Derozen wasn't getting it done in the play-offs,so you have to make a change,,,simple as that.
 
They should have gotten him help instead of trading him. And unless you guys trade kwahi, you're getting nothing back. Was a terrible trade if kwahi walks away at the end of the coming season.
 
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