Kawhi Leonard being traded to Toronto!!

NoPlace4U

NoPlace4U

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 5, 2016
Total posts
468
Poker Chips
0
  • #26
jho said:
Well they weren't really attracting free agents before... So that part hasn't changed lol
Click to expand...


DeRozan is overrated, Toronto was much better overall with him on the bench the last 5 years, with him on the floor they were +0.5 pts better on offense but -3.2 on defense, he will be 29 in a few weeks, SA got a bad deal.
 
B

bernotasiggy

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 14, 2018
Total posts
47
Poker Chips
0
  • #27
I feel like the Spurs get more out of this trade at the end of the day. They win this trade. Raptors give up a pick and will probably only get Kawhi for a year. Even if they dump Derozan's contract it doesn't seem very smart. Might as well have had Derozan play out his contract. Raptors GM must have hated Derozan to do this.
 
B

bernotasiggy

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 14, 2018
Total posts
47
Poker Chips
0
  • #28
NoPlace4U said:
DeRozan is overrated, Toronto was much better overall with him on the bench the last 5 years, with him on the floor they were +0.5 pts better on offense but -3.2 on defense, he will be 29 in a few weeks, SA got a bad deal.
Click to expand...


How is it a bad deal? Toronto got basically nothing. And gave away a solid young big man, A future first round pick, and Derozan who at least was loyal to Toronto. Now you get a player who may leave halfway through the season and will definitely not stay longer then a year. So basically you just get Danny Green. Spurs won this trade. Derozan can't shoot 3's at all which is bad and isn't the best defensively even though he should be looking at his athleticism. Still I think Raptors lost cause they get basically nothing back! It will sell tickets though.
 
S

Synopsis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 10, 2018
Total posts
2,011
Poker Chips
0
  • #29
I agree if kwahi is there for the whole season. If that's the case then the spurs got the better deal by far. If they can unload kwahi via trade though, like i said further up in the topic, they could probably get over value from him. In that case they got the better trade by far. Toronto just kinda traded positions with San Antonio really, and they would be wise to do the same and trade him before he can walk away.
 
S

Synopsis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 10, 2018
Total posts
2,011
Poker Chips
0
  • #30
I'm curious as to if it will sell tickets... they snaked the face of their team, who was loyal, and fans appreciate that. I want to see how the fans there react when the season starts. I'm thinking they might take a hit in attendance early on and unless the team way over performs, I could see it continuing through the season.
bernotasiggy said:
How is it a bad deal? Toronto got basically nothing. And gave away a solid young big man, A future first round pick, and Derozan who at least was loyal to Toronto. Now you get a player who may leave halfway through the season and will definitely not stay longer then a year. So basically you just get Danny Green. Spurs won this trade. Derozan can't shoot 3's at all which is bad and isn't the best defensively even though he should be looking at his athleticism. Still I think Raptors lost cause they get basically nothing back! It will sell tickets though.
Click to expand...
 
B

bernotasiggy

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 14, 2018
Total posts
47
Poker Chips
0
  • #31
Synopsis said:
I'm curious as to if it will sell tickets... they snaked the face of their team, who was loyal, and fans appreciate that. I want to see how the fans there react when the season starts. I'm thinking they might take a hit in attendance early on and unless the team way over performs, I could see it continuing through the season.
Click to expand...


Raptors had a 100.2% attendance I am not even sure how that is possible, they were #4 in attendance. Mavs were 103.1% in attendance. Can anyone explain how it is possible to be over 100% in attendance? Do they not follow capacity laws or something?

http://www.espn.com/nba/attendance/_/sort/homePct
 
S

Synopsis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 10, 2018
Total posts
2,011
Poker Chips
0
  • #32
They probably only count base seats for attendance. So luxury boxes, and some kind of standing room only probably counts above the 100. Just a guess though.
 
SPANKYSN

SPANKYSN

Legend
Loyaler
Joined
Sep 5, 2007
Total posts
2,087
Awards
7
CA
Poker Chips
1,167
  • #33
Synopsis said:
They probably only count base seats for attendance. So luxury boxes, and some kind of standing room only probably counts above the 100. Just a guess though.
Click to expand...
Maybe it is related to the players who give 110% effort! LOL
 
NoPlace4U

NoPlace4U

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 5, 2016
Total posts
468
Poker Chips
0
  • #34
bernotasiggy said:
How is it a bad deal? Toronto got basically nothing. And gave away a solid young big man, A future first round pick, and Derozan who at least was loyal to Toronto. Now you get a player who may leave halfway through the season and will definitely not stay longer then a year. So basically you just get Danny Green. Spurs won this trade. Derozan can't shoot 3's at all which is bad and isn't the best defensively even though he should be looking at his athleticism. Still I think Raptors lost cause they get basically nothing back! It will sell tickets though.
Click to expand...


SA needed young assets or picks, the worst place to be in the NBA is the middle of the pack, that team inst good enough to win a championship not to mention that it is a old team but also they are not gonna miss the playoffs anytime soon, so no lottery picks.
 
S

Synopsis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 10, 2018
Total posts
2,011
Poker Chips
0
  • #35
They ship them off to San Antonio so attendance will be down for sure then... :D
SPANKYSN said:
Maybe it is related to the players who give 110% effort! LOL
Click to expand...
 
Yonip17

Yonip17

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Jun 29, 2018
Total posts
164
Poker Chips
0
  • #36
Raptors should trade leonard to lakers to join lebron james... But leonard health is still the factor.
 
B

bernotasiggy

Enthusiast
Silver Level
Joined
Jul 14, 2018
Total posts
47
Poker Chips
0
  • #37
Yonip17 said:
Raptors should trade leonard to lakers to join lebron james... But leonard health is still the factor.
Click to expand...


Why would the lakers want to trade for him when they can get him for nothing except signing him next year. Raptors probably wouldn't want to trade him for nothing. The only trade that would work cap wise is trading a big piece for the Lakers which they wouldn't and shouldn't do.
 
jho

jho

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 15, 2008
Total posts
1,450
Poker Chips
0
  • #38
bernotasiggy said:
Why would the lakers want to trade for him when they can get him for nothing except signing him next year. Raptors probably wouldn't want to trade him for nothing. The only trade that would work cap wise is trading a big piece for the Lakers which they wouldn't and shouldn't do.
Click to expand...


The Paul George factor is one reason why.
 
W

we will rock you

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jan 19, 2013
Total posts
1,298
Poker Chips
0
  • #39
he will be traded to a contender at the allstar break he doesnt want to be in tor
 
Kanetuck

Kanetuck

Legend
Bronze Level
Joined
Jun 28, 2018
Total posts
1,343
Awards
15
Poker Chips
0
  • #40
I don't trust Kawhi. Not sure if he is ever going to be as good as he was before his injury. I question his will to win. I feel like his success has undermined his drive to play and win.
 
jho

jho

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 15, 2008
Total posts
1,450
Poker Chips
0
  • #41
Kanetuck said:
I don't trust Kawhi. Not sure if he is ever going to be as good as he was before his injury. I question his will to win. I feel like his success has undermined his drive to play and win.
Click to expand...


The whole situation was so surreal. I really think Kawhi got his feelings hurt, and that's what caused the breakup.
 
johnny tigre

johnny tigre

Visionary
Silver Level
Joined
May 4, 2016
Total posts
585
Awards
1
Poker Chips
23
  • #42
The spurs got a better deal, getting a legit superstar plus more, in exchange for kawhi whom toronto could not be sure if they can keep him after a year.
 
I

IGORGO7

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 21, 2017
Total posts
110
Poker Chips
0
  • #43
Not bad
 
jho

jho

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 15, 2008
Total posts
1,450
Poker Chips
0
  • #44
Kawhi sent a thank you letter today

I wonder just how thankful Spurs fans are to receive that after that very un-spurs like drama.
 
N

NoETdrizzle

Rock Star
Silver Level
Joined
Aug 2, 2018
Total posts
106
Poker Chips
0
  • #45
If I'm Toronto I wouldn't have done this because they aren't in a position to take a shot at a championship and they are very unlikely to sign Kawhi after this season. They could have just kept Derozan who was loyal and who the city loved. Instead most likely after this season they will just be left with Lowry.
 
jho

jho

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
Sep 15, 2008
Total posts
1,450
Poker Chips
0
  • #46
NoETdrizzle said:
If I'm Toronto I wouldn't have done this because they aren't in a position to take a shot at a championship and they are very unlikely to sign Kawhi after this season. They could have just kept Derozan who was loyal and who the city loved. Instead most likely after this season they will just be left with Lowry.
Click to expand...


You have to be in it to win it.

The fact of the matter is that with Kawhi it definitely gives Toronto their absolute best chance at a title is he's healthy
 
terryk

terryk

TheCanuckwithalltheluck
Bronze Level
Joined
Dec 14, 2016
Total posts
7,052
Awards
10
Poker Chips
1
  • #47
Great trade! :D We want a Championship and Derozen wasn't getting it done in the play-offs,so you have to make a change,,,simple as that.
 
S

Synopsis

Legend
Silver Level
Joined
May 10, 2018
Total posts
2,011
Poker Chips
0
  • #48
They should have gotten him help instead of trading him. And unless you guys trade kwahi, you're getting nothing back. Was a terrible trade if kwahi walks away at the end of the coming season.
 
Top