You hold the best STARTING hand. You do NOT hold the nuts. If I am correct, 56, 67, and 78 are all roughly 23% against AA. So with AA you are, at least, 77% likely to win (pre-flop). Assuming other all in players have at least unsuited connectors (some should have much better) the odds against two would be 0.77 * 0.77 or 59%. The odds against three already all in are likely 0.77 * 0.77 * 0.77 or 45%. If you are willing to put your tournament life on a coin flip go for it. Otherwise fold AA if there are three others all in before you. You bet 3, 4, 5 BB before the flop to get money in the pot and see what the flop brings. Shoving every time with AA before the flop is not a good idea in my opinion.FrothyGoodness said:Preflop? no..Never. You literally hold the best hand
pigpen02 said:You hold the best STARTING hand. You do NOT hold the nuts. If I am correct, 56, 67, and 78 are all roughly 23% against AA. So with AA you are, at least, 77% likely to win (pre-flop). Assuming other all in players have at least unsuited connectors (some should have much better) the odds against two would be 0.77 * 0.77 or 59%. The odds against three already all in are likely 0.77 * 0.77 * 0.77 or 45%. If you are willing to put your tournament life on a coin flip go for it. Otherwise fold AA if there are three others all in before you. You bet 3, 4, 5 BB before the flop to get money in the pot and see what the flop brings. Shoving every time with AA before the flop is not a good idea in my opinion.
gwj63 said:PROBALY NOT
GOOD FOLD
vox1er said:partypoker, $2.20 + $0 - 275/550 (65 ante) - 8 players (Early stage)
Dog_Patrol (UTG): 63,130 (115 bb)
evoxer (UTG+1): 54,580 (99 bb)
Inmate-24 (MP): 52,889 (96 bb)
itekkers (MP+1): 73,379 (133 bb)
Chillachin (CO): 47,865 (87 bb)
The0rigin (BB): 41,995 (76 bb)
Pre-Flop (1,345) Hero (evoxer) is UTG+1 with A♥ A♠
(UTG) raises to 1,320, evoxer (UTG+1) 3-bets to 2,475, 1 fold, (MP+1) calls 2,475, 1 fold, (BU) 4-bets to 39,564 (all-in), (SB) calls 26,913 (all-in), 2 players fold, evoxer (UTG+1) folds, 1 fold
Flop: (61,716) 5♠ 2♠ 5♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (61,716) K♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (61,716) 6♣(2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: 61,716
Showdown:
supemandan13 (BU) shows K♥5♣ (a full house, Fives full of Kings)
lydl57 (SB) shows J♦J♣ (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
supemandan13 (BU) wins 61,716
Would you fold AA against 2 players on pre-flop (all-in)?
No, I'd never fold AA pre flop, maybe you were lucky to see SUPERMANDAN13 recless playing and lucky draw. AA probabillity is 85,3% in 2 players and 73,4% in 3 players, huge from my point of view. If you are missing that probabillity....vox1er said:partypoker, $2.20 + $0 - 275/550 (65 ante) - 8 players (Early stage)
Dog_Patrol (UTG): 63,130 (115 bb)
evoxer (UTG+1): 54,580 (99 bb)
Inmate-24 (MP): 52,889 (96 bb)
itekkers (MP+1): 73,379 (133 bb)
Chillachin (CO): 47,865 (87 bb)
The0rigin (BB): 41,995 (76 bb)
Pre-Flop (1,345) Hero (evoxer) is UTG+1 with A♥ A♠
(UTG) raises to 1,320, evoxer (UTG+1) 3-bets to 2,475, 1 fold, (MP+1) calls 2,475, 1 fold, (BU) 4-bets to 39,564 (all-in), (SB) calls 26,913 (all-in), 2 players fold, evoxer (UTG+1) folds, 1 fold
Flop: (61,716) 5♠ 2♠ 5♥ (2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (61,716) K♣ (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (61,716) 6♣(2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: 61,716
Showdown:
supemandan13 (BU) shows K♥5♣ (a full house, Fives full of Kings)
lydl57 (SB) shows J♦J♣ (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
supemandan13 (BU) wins 61,716
Would you fold AA against 2 players on pre-flop (all-in)?
vox1er said:partypoker, $2.20 + $0 - 275/550 (65 ante) - 8 players (Early stage)
Dog_Patrol (UTG): 63,130 (115 bb)
evoxer (UTG+1): 54,580 (99 bb)
Inmate-24 (MP): 52,889 (96 bb)
itekkers (MP+1): 73,379 (133 bb)
Chillachin (CO): 47,865 (87 bb)
The0rigin (BB): 41,995 (76 bb)
Pre-Flop (1,345) Hero (evoxer) is UTG+1 with A¢¾ A¢¼
(UTG) raises to 1,320, evoxer (UTG+1) 3-bets to 2,475, 1 fold, (MP+1) calls 2,475, 1 fold, (BU) 4-bets to 39,564 (all-in), (SB) calls 26,913 (all-in), 2 players fold, evoxer (UTG+1) folds, 1 fold
Flop: (61,716) 5¢¼ 2¢¼ 5¢¾ (2 players, 2 all-in)
Turn: (61,716) K¢À (2 players, 2 all-in)
River: (61,716) 6¢À(2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: 61,716
Showdown:
supemandan13 (BU) shows K¢¾5¢À (a full house, Fives full of Kings)
lydl57 (SB) shows J♦J¢À (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
supemandan13 (BU) wins 61,716
Would you fold AA against 2 players on pre-flop (all-in)?
I completely agree with this oneDatdude1 said:If you have AA preflop the do you flod!!?? I'm not really seeing any time you fold that hand preflop unless you're short stack sitting on the bubble trying to cash but even then I would find it extremely difficult to fold. So I guess the answer is no, not folding.
This sounds like a foolish strategy. You are supposed to have some idea about odds to be a winning player.valanddon said:Best starting hand, foolish to fold, play it out. Don't know the odds
of winning, but I am sure they are good.