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What to do with these aggressive players who always raise no matter how bad their hand is - and the worst part they always lucky and hit - while you with the good hands keeps on missing - and soon enough you're out of the tourney!!!
 
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Narrow the range of your cards against them, play tighter, and take 3 turns against them.
 
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Hello how are you good afternoon can someone tell me where I can find the freerolls please it's my first time in a forum thank you very much in advance greetings from Argentina
 
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didi58xx said:
Что делать с этими агрессивными игроками, которые всегда повышают ставку, независимо от того, насколько плоха их рука, и самое худшее — им всегда везет, и они попадают в цель, в то время как ты с хорошей рукой постоянно промахиваешься, и очень скоро тебя выбывают из турнира!!!
Don't enter the bank with bad hands in front of such a player. If you announce a limp or a weak raise, it will immediately move you (tribatnet), making you collapse. Enter the game only with hands you are ready to go all the way to the stack
 
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Tighten up and flat call when strong. Simple. ; )
 
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didi58xx said:
What to do with these aggressive players who always raise no matter how bad their hand is - and the worst part they always lucky and hit - while you with the good hands keeps on missing - and soon enough you're out of the tourney!!!
That’s just a cycle!
Stay true to your style of play no matter what!
Soon there will be a time when your good hands will surely outsmart theirs!
 
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I have noticed that 'generally speaking' some players from "specific countries" tend to play a bit more aggressive, especially before the flop. Thus, always check to see where they are from and calculate that information into how to play them. Even then, you still can get caught with them sitting with hole cards of AA, KK, etc. But, in poker, as some have stated, "nothing is always" as poker can be very fickle at times. For example, before the flop, how many times have you had hole cards of AA, KK, QQ, AKs, etc and then get beat by trip 2s, 3s or 4s OR a Set, Straight/Flush on the river?
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Another note to remember, 60% of the the common cards are represented by the Flop so most aggressive players (no, actually all players) really want to see the Flop. So it is generally best to not be too aggressive before seeing the Flop, especially considering how many players have yet to play (POSITION).

Good luck,

Wally
 
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didi58xx said:
What to do with these aggressive players who always raise no matter how bad their hand is - and the worst part they always lucky and hit - while you with the good hands keeps on missing - and soon enough you're out of the tourney!!!
The first step is to get rid of this tilted idea, that they "always get lucky and hit", because that is simply not true. A 20% chance is a 20% chance, regardless how someone play. The second step is to focus mainly on your own game. If you find yourself regularly blinding away in tournaments, then maybe you should stop folding so much and start calling and/or bluffing more. This is difficult to say though without looking at some actual hand histories, that you played. So maybe find some hands and share them to the hand analysis section.
 
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Aggressive players can be highly profitable opponents if you stay disciplined. Play solid hands, let them bluff into you, value bet strongly, and avoid getting dragged into unnecessary battles. Patience and good timing are the best counters to excessive aggression.
 
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Wait for a strong hand in a favorable position and take your chances .If luck goes against you that happens in poker sometimes .
 
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If you know they're being over-aggressive and raising hand after hand after hand, and you see them show garbage hands, play against them. Some people will say you should tighten up. I don't. I'll actually open up, logically though, against them. And you may have to play a hand not as strong as you would like against those players. It'll take a while to get used to it and seeing what they do. But my suggestion is, next time you play against one another, and you have a hand that is okay, say, eight-five, eight-five of diamonds, he raises again. See how the hand would play out. You know? You flop second pair on a board. Would you call? Chances are you might fold, and that's okay. But play against them like that. Get used to making a little bit more tighter calls in imaginations just against him. It'll help you get a little more used to it. And you might be surprised when some of those junk hands actually lose a lot more than you might realize.
 
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Choose a more selective range and analyze the SPR, range advantage, and nut advantage when contesting a pot against him.
 
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Seen some over aggression lately on cardchat freerolls on final tables. I myself tend to play more defensively, but sometimes I give a try by loosening the game and attacking with small re-raises.
 
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Luvepoker said:
Some people will say you should tighten up. I don't. I'll actually open up, logically though, against them. And you may have to play a hand not as strong as you would like against those players.

Yes, the theory is that if they are playing extremely wide then we can play fairly wide ourself and still hold range advantage. However, this requires more post-flop skill. The weaker the hand, the tougher to play post-flop. For the inexperienced among us, it is better to stay tight, not crazy tight but smart, careful tight.

I do know someone who will stack off with the maniac with all of Ax, however he never plays tournaments so is never afraid of felting.
 
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didi58xx said:
What to do with these aggressive players who always raise no matter how bad their hand is - and the worst part they always lucky and hit - while you with the good hands keeps on missing - and soon enough you're out of the tourney!!!
It can definitely feel frustrating, but I try not to focus on the results of one hand. Aggressive players will sometimes get lucky, but if they're constantly raising with weak hands, they'll also make expensive mistakes over time. My goal is to stay patient, wait for good spots, and trust that good decisions will pay off in the long run. Poker is a marathon, not a sprint.
 
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It can definitely feel frustrating, but I try not to focus on the results of one hand. Aggressive players will sometimes get lucky, but if they're constantly raising with weak hands, they'll also make expensive mistakes over time. My goal is to stay patient, wait for good spots, and trust that good decisions will pay off in the long run. Poker is a marathon, not a sprint.

If you see a nit and his account is old, he will have some sort of small bankroll, but if you see a loose splashy player he will never have any bankroll. There is no sooner or later with this player. His habits will always catch up with him sooner, never later.

Someone is going to get his money. Do you want it or not?
 
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The best adjustment against very aggressive players is usually patience. Let them bluff and overplay weak hands, then punish them when you have a strong value range instead of trying to out-bluff them.

It can feel like they always get lucky, but that's often just variance. In the long run, players who constantly put chips in with weak hands are usually the ones paying everyone else.
 
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If you see a nit and his account is old, he will have some sort of small bankroll, but if you see a loose splashy player he will never have any bankroll. There is no sooner or later with this player. His habits will always catch up with him sooner, never later.

Someone is going to get his money. Do you want it or not?
I agree with you. The short term can be frustrating, but in the long run those loose players usually lose. The key is to stay patient and be ready when the opportunity comes. That's where the real profit is.
 
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Sooner or later these maniacal players are going to fall. The fact that they are very aggressive means that they do not fold at any cost, and they often pay to see even with a bad hand.
Most of the time I just observe folding a lot of hands and playing a little tighter.
 
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lwccasz said:
The fact that they are very aggressive means that they do not fold at any cost, and they often pay to see even with a bad hand.

That's not really true. The maniac is a massive overbluffer. He is being a bully, banking on the fact that we are weak. If we raise him, we are out-bullying the bully and telling him that we actually aren't weak this time. He's often not dumb enough to call with his weak hand (except for the very few times when he actually has it). If we flat call, we allow him to continue to be the aggressor and let him keep bullying into our strong hand.

It is usually more profitable to just flat call the maniac and let him hang himself of the next street(s).
 
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