hey, i'm 9k. #3

[OMGITSOVER9K]

anyway, couple spots where I turned made 2nd best hands into bluffs.

nits, have at it.

PokerStars - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: €57.53 (VPIP: 25.85, PFR: 21.19, 3Bet Preflop: 9.18, Hands: 242)
MP: €56.64 (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 8.00, Hands: 142)
CO: €61.41 (VPIP: 52.35, PFR: 28.82, 3Bet Preflop: 4.05, Hands: 176)
BTN: €50.00 (VPIP: 19.63, PFR: 12.88, 3Bet Preflop: 5.45, Hands: 168)
Hero (SB): €53.75
BB: €52.62 (VPIP: 29.46, PFR: 25.25, 3Bet Preflop: 10.67, Hands: 412)

Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has T:club: A:club:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to €1.00, Hero calls €0.75, fold

Flop: (€2.50, 2 players) T:spade: J:heart: 6:club:
Hero checks, BTN bets €1.50, Hero calls €1.50

Turn: (€5.50, 2 players) 8:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets €4.00, Hero calls €4.00

River: (€13.50, 2 players) 5:spade:
Hero checks, BTN bets €8.00, Hero raises to €23.00

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): $51.25
UTG: $50.00 (VPIP: 21.76, PFR: 17.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.49, Hands: 441)
MP: $57.11 (VPIP: 25.44, PFR: 22.19, 3Bet Preflop: 6.30, Hands: 348)
CO: $50.14 (VPIP: 27.03, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 38)
BTN: $50.50 (VPIP: 26.41, PFR: 22.85, 3Bet Preflop: 12.20, Hands: 343)
SB: $40.44 (VPIP: 53.19, PFR: 1.06, 3Bet Preflop: 1.72, Hands: 96)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has A:spade: 4:spade:

fold, MP raises to $1.20, fold, fold, SB calls $0.95, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($3.60, 3 players) 4:diamond: T:heart: T:club:
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $2.50, fold, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.60, 2 players) Q:club:
Hero checks, MP bets $6.00, Hero raises to $16.00

 

[duggs]

what 14/14 with 3b of 6 3bet KJs/KQ vs UTG.

imo he's NEVER light here, I put him on pretty much exactly AA/QQ given his line + timebank reads.

36 hands, we cant rule out him being light, but yea if he were 3betting light those would be the hands he should choose if he isnt flatting them.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

^ duggs, whats your reasoning for this?

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sometimes I think i'm just clicking buttons.. comment on the hands above please! (ran it twice, PT4 doesnt show)

PokerStars - €0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: €87.57 (VPIP: 17.96, PFR: 11.02, 3Bet Preflop: 2.88, Hands: 249)
CO: €54.82 (VPIP: 24.07, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.62, Hands: 283)
BTN: €102.53 (VPIP: 27.75, PFR: 21.39, 3Bet Preflop: 4.92, Hands: 180)
Hero (SB): €50.00
BB: €20.00 (VPIP: 22.97, PFR: 20.27, 3Bet Preflop: 14.04, Hands: 154)
UTG: €88.09 (VPIP: 49.34, PFR: 32.89, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 155)

Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.75) Hero has A:diamond: K:diamond:

UTG raises to €1.50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to €4.50, fold, UTG calls €3.00

Flop: (€9.50, 2 players) 9:spade: 7:diamond: 4:diamond:
Hero bets €5.50, UTG calls €5.50

Turn: (€20.50, 2 players) 5:diamond:
Hero checks, UTG bets €7.50, Hero raises to €15.50, UTG raises to €78.09 and is all-in, Hero calls €24.50 and is all-in

River: (€100.50, 2 players) 6:diamond:

Hero shows A:diamond: K:diamond: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 67%, Flop 73%, Turn 98%)
UTG shows 8:diamond: J:diamond: (Straight Flush, Eight High) (Pre 33%, Flop 27%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins €49.25
UTG wins €49.25

 

[hackmeplz]

Why are you ch/r the turn? The reasons to check the turn seem to be the exact same reasons not to raise the turn once he does bet.

That said without reads turn just has to be a bet the first time.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

said I was clicking buttons, I played this one horrible but not posting for HA because I know what I did wrong lol.

what about the ones above?

 

[hackmeplz]

Not a huge fan of the A4 hand just based on his bet sizing. I think he has Qx+ a lot and honestly he just has Tx way too much imo. I'm not sure he bets Qx that big so you might even beat all the hands you fold out anyway.

AT hand I like as long as you don't overdo it. You have somewhat of a blocker and it's a spot you can expect a nit like that to even fold 2 pair some of the time given that you look a lot like a set or straight.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

I thought the A4s hand was thinner but he folds pretty much everything bar Tx. it was probably me spazzing because in my head.. raising > folding > calling, especially when he has semi-bluffs and pure bluffs on that turn a fair bit.. then Qx and KK+ that fold a lot to the raise too.

sizing ok on both? i'm really bad at sizing.

 

[acky100]

Not a huge fan of the A4 hand just based on his bet sizing. I think he has Qx+ a lot and honestly he just has Tx way too much imo. I'm not sure he bets Qx that big so you might even beat all the hands you fold out anyway.

AT hand I like as long as you don't overdo it. You have somewhat of a blocker and it's a spot you can expect a nit like that to even fold 2 pair some of the time given that you look a lot like a set or straight.

You not think we should just fold the turn with AT there, turn call seems pretty bad no ?

 

[dj11]

You need replies to that AK nut vs real nut flush hand?

OK, **** the poker gods!

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

You not think we should just fold the turn with AT there, turn call seems pretty bad no ?

such a nit it scares me

 

[acky100]

such a nit it scares me

Just looks like a losing call really

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

like 80%+ of regs double barrel all the time on the BTN regardless of board texture, calling one street to fold the turn seems like a losing prop

 

[Cafeman]

Yeah AT is interesting. What do you mean by some kinda of blocker HMP, what are we somewhat blocking? Not sure what you mean tbh Anyone please enlighten me?

Calling flop and folding turn. Ugh, these spots when we have SDV against a reg who barrels are so tough, and happen a lot. We haven't got anywhere near enough hands to know any kind of reliable freqs on villain. Hmmm!

As for turning it into a bluff, if we're assuming the reg vbets appropriately and bet/folds then this is def a decent spot. However, not sure how often we can assume that.

Looking at this hand has made me realise how rarely I turn made hands into bluffs by x/r rivers. I think it's mostly a function of getting calls from my value hands that I tend not to do it much with bluffs.

I need to examine more spots where I 'always get folds' when I have value hands, and therefore needing to bluff more there.

 

[hackmeplz]

Yeah AT is interesting. What do you mean by some kinda of blocker HMP, what are we somewhat blocking? Not sure what you mean tbh Anyone please enlighten me?

We block TT/JT/T8.

 

[acky100]

We have a great hand to turn into a bluff on the river, i just don't think people are barreling enough to make this a good turn call, especially on this run out and we need to be folding some hands on the turn here/have better hands to call again with ???

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

well yeah, no hands to post but tomorrows a Friday.. so should deffo get lots of hands and spots for the thread!

anyway, one from a year ago today. I remember this one!

PokerStars - $0.25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: $10.00 (VPIP: 13.84, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 3.95, Hands: 227)
CO: $23.40 (VPIP: 9.20, PFR: 7.99, 3Bet Preflop: 4.91, Hands: 673)
BTN: $28.56 (VPIP: 22.81, PFR: 16.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 287)
SB: $31.25 (VPIP: 14.74, PFR: 11.69, 3Bet Preflop: 4.44, Hands: 1,357)
Hero (BB): $39.82
UTG: $5.07 (VPIP: 40.26, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 5.41, Hands: 78)
UTG+1: $29.60 (VPIP: 15.80, PFR: 12.26, 3Bet Preflop: 3.68, Hands: 378)
UTG+2: $10.35 (VPIP: 13.11, PFR: 11.31, 3Bet Preflop: 2.63, Hands: 565)
MP: $8.01 (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 9.68, Hands: 76)

SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has K:diamond: T:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.62, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, BTN calls $1.38

Flop: ($4.10, 2 players) 5:diamond: T:heart: 7:spade:
Hero bets $2.25, BTN raises to $5.00, Hero calls $2.75

Turn: ($14.10, 2 players) 7:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

River: ($29.10, 2 players) A:diamond:
Hero bets $14.25, BTN calls $14.06 and is all-in

Hero shows K:diamond: T:diamond: (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 18%, Flop 23%, Turn 23%)
BTN shows A:spade: A:club: (Full House, Aces full of Sevens) (Pre 82%, Flop 77%, Turn 77%)
BTN wins $55.22

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

I need someone to slap some sense into me so I stop gii pre with JJ/TT in spots where regs always have better! this is the reason I've been floating for like 9k hands.

I'm so bad. (although squeeze folding is kinda nitty, flatting is meh but we're OOP so having the lead seems better.)

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $87.51 (VPIP: 31.37, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 53)
CO: $49.25 (VPIP: 24.44, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 45)
BTN: $51.61 (VPIP: 22.65, PFR: 18.78, 3Bet Preflop: 6.85, Hands: 184)
Hero (SB): $50.00
BB: $65.68 (VPIP: 8.33, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
UTG: $52.25 (VPIP: 25.88, PFR: 14.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 171)

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T:heart: T:club:

fold, MP raises to $1.50, fold, BTN calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6.00, fold, MP raises to $13.50, fold, Hero raises to $50.00 and is all-in, MP calls $36.50

Flop: ($102.00, 2 players) 2:spade: 4:spade: J:heart:

Turn: ($102.00, 2 players) 3:diamond:

River: ($102.00, 2 players) 3:spade:

Hero shows T:heart: T:club: (Two Pair, Tens and Threes) (Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
MP shows Q:spade: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Threes) (Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
MP wins $49.75
MP wins $49.75

- oh and stationing spew just for the hell of it.

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $52.08 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 58)
BB: $47.25 (VPIP: 20.83, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 49)
UTG: $56.23 (VPIP: 26.23, PFR: 19.13, 3Bet Preflop: 1.47, Hands: 184)
MP: $65.40 (VPIP: 51.56, PFR: 25.78, 3Bet Preflop: 9.52, Hands: 133)
CO: $63.15 (VPIP: 27.89, PFR: 23.81, 3Bet Preflop: 11.94, Hands: 147)
Hero (BTN): $51.38

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has T:diamond: T:spade:

fold, MP calls $0.50, fold, Hero raises to $2.00, fold, BB raises to $6.50, fold, Hero calls $4.50

Flop: ($13.75, 2 players) 4:club: 9:spade: K:heart:
BB bets $7.50, Hero calls $7.50

Turn: ($28.75, 2 players) 2:spade:
BB bets $14.00, Hero calls $14.00

River: ($56.75, 2 players) 8:spade:
BB bets $19.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $19.25

BB shows J:spade: A:diamond: (High Card, Ace) (Pre 43%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows T:diamond: T:spade: (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 57%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins $92.75

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Squeeze-folding isn't nitty if you're always behind in that spot, which I think you are.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

regs 4bet light here, but I dont think its enough for the times we shove and get snapped by JJ+ AK

 

[js520]

Squeeze-folding isn't nitty if you're always behind in that spot, which I think you are.

Don't u think regs can 4bet light there since its such an obvious squeeze spot by hero? I think they do

 

[Matt Vaughan]

He hasn't 3bet preflop yet in 50 hands. Not saying that's the be all end all, but it certainly makes it a lot less likely he's 4betting this spot light.

Disclaimer: I don't play these limits, I'm just working with the info given to me.

I'm not saying "Regs never 4bet light" - I'm saying I don't think this player 4bets light in this spot a lot.

 

[AlwaysPlanAhe]

We have little choice but to respect a 4bet from a 31/24 who hasn't even 3bet yet even if we are in a skweezy spot.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

#9Kspews

opinions? (mainly on #2)

PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: $51.99 (VPIP: 23.41, PFR: 20.24, 3Bet Preflop: 9.30, Hands: 258)
CO: $31.99 (VPIP: 53.95, PFR: 26.32, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 78)
BTN: $50.00 (VPIP: 15.96, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 10.47, Hands: 213)
SB: $90.51 (VPIP: 27.17, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 94)
Hero (BB): $51.49
UTG: $43.71 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

SB posts SB $0.25, Hero posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 4:heart: A:heart:

fold, fold, CO raises to $1.00, fold, SB calls $0.75, Hero raises to $5.00, CO calls $4.00, fold

Flop: ($11.00, 2 players) 7:diamond: J:spade: T:club:
Hero bets $5.50, CO calls $5.50

Turn: ($22.00, 2 players) 8:spade:
Hero bets $21.00

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PokerStars - $0.50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: $40.34 (VPIP: 39.44, PFR: 7.04, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 73)
Hero (BTN): $50.50
SB: $67.20 (VPIP: 17.83, PFR: 13.18, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 133)
BB: $50.00 (VPIP: 15.96, PFR: 14.55, 3Bet Preflop: 10.47, Hands: 213)
UTG: $51.50 (VPIP: 17.14, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 37)
MP: $96.58 (VPIP: 28.20, PFR: 26.09, 3Bet Preflop: 12.45, Hands: 641)

SB posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has Q:club: T:heart:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.25, fold, BB raises to $4.05, Hero calls $2.80

Flop: ($8.35, 2 players) 6:club: 9:club: J:club:
BB bets $4.93, Hero raises to $13.00

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

I'm a cold ass honky and I run like Jesus, so there are exceptions

Subbed, and gl my man!

I also miss Caff in this thread.

 

[hackmeplz]

Hand 1 no reason to bet that big on turn.

Hand 2 no idea why you're raising you really don't want a free card vs. his value range?