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Pretty tough to see JJ or worse calling there. But you are usually pretty far ahead so it's not the biggest problem in the world
 
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AQ is always good here when he checks the turn and riv, and I like your river sizing, since I think we can get hero called at least sometimes here.
 
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Also your stats really defend on if you are table selecting well,
 
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La la la la la la la la la la la la la la

 
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pocketehs said:
nope out in 80th. cant tell if it was a spaz play or night. might send it to you on skype later if you dont mind duggs

for sure man
 
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pocketehs said:
just doing a 15k stat review. I was actually looking for more spots to call 3bets but my f3bet is still like 80%...way too high for 25nl eh? should try to get it down to 70%?

cbet is 66% and tcbet is 45%. is that okay you think or a little too wide?


also....tooo thin?
$9.60


I would say you want to get your turn continuation bet up, it is probably fine for 25nl, but that is awfully low, and you look like good float bait lol. I think you played that hand well, not to thin, he shouldn't have a king here to often and can definitely have a lot worse queens.
 
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PokerStars - $0.16 Ante $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 449.63 BB
SB: 155.38 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 12)
BB: 217.19 BB (VPIP: 25.90, PFR: 18.40, 3Bet Preflop: 11.79, Hands: 3,158)
UTG: 105.19 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 241.25 BB (VPIP: 21.41, PFR: 15.77, 3Bet Preflop: 7.52, Hands: 1,323)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.25 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.75 BB) Hero has 3:club: 5:club:

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 15 BB, fold, Hero calls 14 BB, fold

Flop: (33.25 BB, 2 players) 3:spade: 9:diamond: 6:diamond:
BB bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

Turn: (71.25 BB, 2 players) 7:heart:
BB checks, Hero bets 32 BB, BB raises to 142 BB, Hero raises to 252 BB, BB calls 40.94 BB and is all-in

River: (437.13 BB, 2 players) A:heart:

Line check? reg 26/18/12 over 3.2k hands, probably views me as a bit station/bluff catchy and willing to c/r bluff rivers and turns. also doesnt expect me to fold awfully much to barreling.

do people like a turn bet, and if you do they like stacking off?
 
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Your sir are crazy
 
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if ducky is calling me spewy im worried
 
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duggs said:
PokerStars - $0.16 Ante $0.04 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 449.63 BB
SB: 155.38 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)
BB: 217.19 BB (VPIP: 25.90, PFR: 18.40, 3Bet Preflop: 11.79, Hands: 3,158)
UTG: 105.19 BB (VPIP: 18.18, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
CO: 241.25 BB (VPIP: 21.41, PFR: 15.77, 3Bet Preflop: 7.52, Hands: 1,323)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 5 players post ante of 0.25 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.75 BB) Hero has 3<font color='black'>♣</font> 5<font color='black'>♣</font>

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 1 BB, SB calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 15 BB, fold, Hero calls 14 BB, fold

Flop: (33.25 BB, 2 players) 3<font color='black'>♠</font> 9<font color='red'>♦</font> 6<font color='red'>♦</font>
BB bets 19 BB, Hero calls 19 BB

Turn: (71.25 BB, 2 players) 7<font color='red'>♥</font>
BB checks, Hero bets 32 BB, BB raises to 142 BB, Hero raises to 252 BB, BB calls 40.94 BB and is all-in

River: (437.13 BB, 2 players) A<font color='red'>♥</font>

Line check? reg 26/18/12 over 3.2k hands, probably views me as a bit station/bluff catchy and willing to c/r bluff rivers and turns. also doesnt expect me to fold awfully much to barreling.

do people like a turn bet, and if you do they like stacking off?

I don't like the turn bet or jam duggs. When I'm jamming I like to have a lot more equity. Also I think the fact that the board is super draw heavy I don't like it. What I mean is I think he can call off with a lot of over pairs cause you have way more draws than sets.

Also just saw his massive turn raise and ESS leaving us like no FE.
 
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the turn jam is effectively just a call tho. its not expecting folds i just wanted all the money in.
 
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Duggs has lost his mind. Nothing to see here people, move along.
 
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lol wtf happened, pre is a fold, turn is a check/fold to river.
 
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Were you drunk mr duggmeister?
 
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What better hands does he c/j on the turn?
 
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Any set, any overpair and any flush draw + overs. Best case scenario I see you being 2/1. Most of the time I think you are crushed.
 
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overpairs i have 13 outs against. i completely discounted sets since he is happy to b/c and history. so that leaves flush draws and his sizing pre makes more sense with higher pairs and broadways than mid pairs. and since i dont think overpairs would c/j as they either bet or c/c i figured most of the time i was ahead or facing a weirdly played overpair.
 
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Meh. Your better than me so you're probably right. I discounted this hand as crazy but now you have me intrigued. If I was villain I don't mind a X/Shove as I think you are betting turn 100% of the time or near as it makes no difference.


Please post with spoilers!
 
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What I said in Skype, you wouldn't have posted this unless you won :D
 
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hahaha nh

pretty standard.... especially the call pre I mean how could you possibly fold in that spot vnh wp

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Cafeman said:
What I said in Skype, you wouldn't have posted this unless you won :D

Yeah obv.

He wouldn't be here defending his play if he lost. Villain showed up with KQs or some shit lol. I still doubt it was the correct play, but it's too uncommon a spot to really define the correct play here.
 
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preflop and flop are probably bad, i can see more justification for flop than pre, pre is pretty awful, as played i find it hard to see many better hands than mine c/j turn.

villain turned up with K10dd but I do think most of his range is Axdd tbh
 
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To be fair to duggs; I also thought a lot of his range is diamonds to with the line he takes or maybe 99 the only hand that will raise the limpers pre. I think he calls 33,66,77 pre as opposed to raise those hands so we can eliminate those sets but even if we include those sets + strong flush draws we still have more equity. I really doubt villian is x/r over pairs in this spot either but even when we do include those hands, we're flipping vs the range of 33+, any flush draw.

All that said though, the problem is; when he x/r and commits himself to the pot, it doesn't really matter what he has given the times he is slightly behind he has a ton of outs. I just don't think we can call it of enough for it to show a +EV long term and the times we do and we're right; still doesn't outweigh the times we're wrong.
 
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But this happens on the turn tho, so slightly behind is 25% which is a reasonably big edge o oush
 
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