MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[pocketehs]

giving 25NL Zoom a shot. Once midterms and rugbys over I think Im going to start a new thread up and get some progress going. I've been stuck for too long and not getting enough volume.

might add a fitness element to goals as well. any thoughts for goals or punishment if i miss goals?

I mean. Again, I just highly doubt you need 50 BI's to be okay at 5nl, even multi-tabling quite a bit. Plus as has been stated over and over recently, the fastest way to improvement is more active volume - not playing tons of tables, but that's partially personal preference too.

But mathematically, you needn't worry with like 30 BI's at a limit that you have a positive WR at (so long as there is another limit to move down to). If it's about tilt then fine, but imo you're limiting yourself by requiring such a deep BR.

agree with scourge. Micro you've been at 5nl for so long and u can obv beat it. move up. i think it might be hard to keep improvign when ur playing the same level for so long.

 

[honeycrush]

I'm not normally superstitious or anything. But. I'm now running really bad . . .

That'll teach you for showing off about winning flips!

 

[pocketehs]

lets discuss...


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $13.90 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 1)
Hero (SB): $28.78
BB: $24.15
UTG: $41.71 (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: $25.35
CO: $32.62 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9:club: A:heart:

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $3.50, BB calls $2.00

Flop: ($7.00, 2 players) 2:club: A:diamond: Q:spade:
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($7.00, 2 players) 7:club:
Hero bets $3.25, BB raises to $6.50, Hero calls $3.25

River: ($20.00, 2 players) 4:spade:
Hero checks, BB bets $14.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.15

 

[micromachine]

Done. Only managed to win 10bi, can I try again plz?

 

[micromachine]

agree with scourge. Micro you've been at 5nl for so long and u can obv beat it. move up. i think it might be hard to keep improvign when ur playing the same level for so long.

But I haven't been at 5nl this whole time, it was only like 4 months ago when I was taking shots (stupidly) at 25nl with a $400 roll and tilted like a pro, which ended with me sitting on a 50PLO Zoom table for a few hands and losing a full buy-in with nut FH vs a Royal

That crippled me leaving me with only around $100 and I've been rebuilding at 5nl ever since. Fed up with doing stupid sh1t like that so I'm going to be a BR nit from now on, 5bi shot when I have 30bi for 10nl isn't super nitty anyway.

 

[pocketehs]

But I haven't been at 5nl this whole time, it was only like 4 months ago when I was taking shots (stupidly) at 25nl with a $400 roll and tilted like a pro, which ended with me sitting on a 50PLO Zoom table for a few hands and losing a full buy-in with nut FH vs a Royal

That crippled me leaving me with only around $100 and I've been rebuilding at 5nl ever since. Fed up with doing stupid sh1t like that so I'm going to be a BR nit from now on, 5bi shot when I have 30bi for 10nl isn't super nitty anyway.

BR nit to compensate for shot takes at another game at even higher stakes? lol kind of just kidding. 30bi isnt that bad for 10NL

 

[micromachine]

hehe yeah that was ridiculously foolish. Gonna do it properly this time, BR nit and work my way up through the levels

 

[pocketehs]

lets discuss...


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $13.90 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (SB): $28.78
BB: $24.15
UTG: $41.71 (VPIP: 9.52, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
MP: $25.35
CO: $32.62 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has 9<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='red'>♥</font>

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $3.50, BB calls $2.00

Flop: ($7.00, 2 players) 2<font color='black'>♣</font> A<font color='red'>♦</font> Q<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: ($7.00, 2 players) 7<font color='black'>♣</font>
Hero bets $3.25, BB raises to $6.50, Hero calls $3.25

River: ($20.00, 2 players) 4<font color='black'>♠</font>
Hero checks, BB bets $14.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $14.15

k fine ill start. I was discussing with scourrge and deco but would appreciate others thoughts

pre - i think i can call the 3bet cause its a min click but since the playability isnt great i decided to CIB. Think when he calls the 4bet he has a lot of broadways and like 99-JJ and AQ

Flop - i was planning to x/c cause i wanted him to bet his broadways as a bluff.

Turn - is a v-bet b/c i doubt he can have Ax once he checks the flop. decided to bet/c cause its hard for me to have a value hand since i x'ed flop and were getting good odds. although he can still have AQ

River - think river is a snap cause its bluffs or AQ right?

 

[loomis311]

Would like to know a little more about this player. Do you have any other history about him?

With little information on this player and you 4betting pre makes this hand harder to play. A min 3bet pre usually is a sign of strength. He wants you to call or come over the top. When he calls your 4 I think it confirms he has a strong range.

The flop is fairly dry and it would not be be unreasonable for villian to check back with a strong hand. This where it is important to know opponents tendencies for more information.

On the turn he min raises you. This usually means a bluff or signs of a strong hand. I think we can kind of rule out his medium strength hands. If we know this player is really aggressive you can more call. If we know this player is really tight we can more fold. The only thing we are going to be beating at this point in the hand is a bluff.

On the river you are in a bad spot. He is in position and has put a lot of pressure on you. It is really hard to say to call or fold here. For me, I would have to know more information about the opponent. You kind of put yourself in a bad situation.

 

[pocketehs]

yeah i already said its pretty much a bluff or somehting like AQ. He doesnt have like AT.

No info on villain other than hes probably a fish. \

yea river he shows aggression but since I just call turn it lets him bluff-shove rivers.

i just think cause of the way he played pre and flop i can play turn and river the way i did.

anyone else have thoughts? cafe? matt? 9k?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Micro, I'm not sure if I read that correctly, but you "took a shot" at 25nl at $400, then were crippled and left with $100? So you lost 12 BI's before moving down? That doesn't sound like a shot, that sounds like a suicide run where you were gonna "go up the stakes or bust."

Maybe it was more a product of playing a bunch of tables? When you move up stakes do you start off cutting down tables? If not I highly recommend it. Anyway sorry, not trying to pick on you, just kinda wondering. I've personally been using pretty aggro BRM for the past few months, and I've done okay moving up. Granted my player pool is softer, but the biggest key was not being stubborn about moving down.

 

[Cafeman]

I think we can't necessarily rule out QQ/77/22 from his pf flatting range since he appears to be a little clueless. Having said that, even if we give him more combos of monsters I still probs play it the way you did (cept pre I lean towards a fold I think). The clincher for me to x/c the river is all those suited hands that turned a FD (along with perhaps a GS too). I also call because in my player pool I see quite a few desperate bluffs from fish in big pots.

Anyhoo them's my thunks on the matter for what they're worth.

 

[Cafeman]

Also no one vbets even vaguely enough in my experience - esp on the river, so I think you're right to discount all other aces except aces up. If he somehow shows up here with AK/AJ/AT you just have to lolnh and move on.

 

[micromachine]

Micro, I'm not sure if I read that correctly, but you "took a shot" at 25nl at $400, then were crippled and left with $100? So you lost 12 BI's before moving down? That doesn't sound like a shot, that sounds like a suicide run where you were gonna "go up the stakes or bust."

Maybe it was more a product of playing a bunch of tables? When you move up stakes do you start off cutting down tables? If not I highly recommend it. Anyway sorry, not trying to pick on you, just kinda wondering. I've personally been using pretty aggro BRM for the past few months, and I've done okay moving up. Granted my player pool is softer, but the biggest key was not being stubborn about moving down.

A shot turned into tilt.

When I play 10nl it'll be max of 6 tables, I only mass multi 5nl cos its easy and I build my roll up quickly. Thinking of doing a couple of sessions of 5nl playing 6 tables before the 10nl shot to acclimatise myself to playing less.

 

[micromachine]

888 now got mac client and pt4 works! Shame my roll there is only $24, got $30 in bonuses to unlock too so hopefully can build it up fast so I can at least play the 6nl tables there

 

[AlfieAA]

nearly rolled for 5nl, not been playing much but worked up the br with playing cc freerolls so when the time comes i'll need some tips on how to handle 5nl coz last time i had a shot it went tits up with some bad play early on then tilting the rest...mostly tilt lol.....i think there is a difference between 2nl and 5nl especially with 6max so maybe i will play FR to start, so if someone wants to give me a quick brief then fire away...ta

 

[micromachine]

^^ play ABC, tight aggressive poker, make sure there are fish on your table, and don't play too many tables when you move up. Um...don't tilt?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

A shot turned into tilt.

When I play 10nl it'll be max of 6 tables, I only mass multi 5nl cos its easy and I build my roll up quickly. Thinking of doing a couple of sessions of 5nl playing 6 tables before the 10nl shot to acclimatise myself to playing less.

Ok, makes sense. Anyway cool, that seems like a good plan to cut to 6 tables for 10nl. GL moving on up!

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Also, congrats on a sick 100 pages, Microcrushers!!

 

[pocketehs]

I think we can't necessarily rule out QQ/77/22 from his pf flatting range since he appears to be a little clueless. Having said that, even if we give him more combos of monsters I still probs play it the way you did (cept pre I lean towards a fold I think). The clincher for me to x/c the river is all those suited hands that turned a FD (along with perhaps a GS too). I also call because in my player pool I see quite a few desperate bluffs from fish in big pots.

Anyhoo them's my thunks on the matter for what they're worth.

Also no one vbets even vaguely enough in my experience - esp on the river, so I think you're right to discount all other aces except aces up. If he somehow shows up here with AK/AJ/AT you just have to lolnh and move on.

Thanks Neil!

FDs and GS miss though so doesnt that make it a call more often?

 

[pocketehs]

also this....


PokerStars - $0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $29.36 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (SB): $77.76
BB: $25.00
UTG: $42.44 (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 29)
MP: $25.00 (VPIP: 21.88, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 33)
CO: $25.45 (VPIP: 24.36, PFR: 20.51, 3Bet Preflop: 6.90, Hands: 83)

Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.35) Hero has A:spade: A:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.75, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, fold, UTG calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.25, 2 players) Q:heart: A:club: Q:diamond:
Hero bets $2.50, UTG calls $2.50

Turn: ($10.25, 2 players) 5:spade:
Hero checks, UTG bets $6.10, Hero calls $6.10

River: ($22.45, 2 players) T:spade:
Hero checks, UTG bets $13.90, Hero raises to $66.66 and is all-in, UTG calls $17.44 and is all-in

Hero shows A:spade: A:diamond: (Full House, Aces full of Queens) (Pre 92%, Flop 96%, Turn 98%)
UTG shows A:heart: Q:club: (Full House, Queens full of Aces) (Pre 8%, Flop 4%, Turn 2%)
Hero wins $83.13

 

[micromachine]

^^ Poor bastard lol

 

[micromachine]

My recent results, so pretty having all the stakes in green

Those 10nl hands were played tonight so hopefully bode well for a successful move up. Only graphs induce runbad right?

 

[duggs]

whats his flatting range look like? like are we giving him credit for setmining due to stacks? he is also IP which means we can give him a much wider range. assuming he 4bets KK+ he has like something 66+ AJs AQo and some suited connectors. so if he has all that air then bet/check/call looks good on that flop as c/f happens alot on the turn in his eyes. river im not sure about. if he has an uber nitty defending range of like TT-QQ AQ AK then its better to bet bet bet as 1010/JJ arent going to be compelled to bluff and will likely try get to showdown. and AK will looks us up as its hard to give us many combos that have him crushed unless we are 3betting Qxs hands.

 

[duggs]

k fine ill start. I was discussing with scourrge and deco but would appreciate others thoughts

pre - i think i can call the 3bet cause its a min click but since the playability isnt great i decided to CIB. Think when he calls the 4bet he has a lot of broadways and like 99-JJ and AQ

Flop - i was planning to x/c cause i wanted him to bet his broadways as a bluff.

Turn - is a v-bet b/c i doubt he can have Ax once he checks the flop. decided to bet/c cause its hard for me to have a value hand since i x'ed flop and were getting good odds. although he can still have AQ

River - think river is a snap cause its bluffs or AQ right?

I like the line, I think there is merit for considering c/f v some opponents tho, who will check back all there lower pairs and bet all there AQ etc hands

some annoying A7s type hands raise that turn, but if clubs can then im fine with it