MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[dsvw56]

I'm stealing a lot on this table - opening wide from CO and BTN as I want to play lots of pots IP vs the english fish and because the other two players to my left have high FoldToSteal stats and low 3b stats, especially Tony directly to my left.

Guy to my left has high steal stat and highish Foldto3b stat so I'll be 3betting him quite a bit with a range including bluff hands. Next guy to left, setfiretopot, has a low Foldto3b stat and he's a nit so I'm not 3betting him with bluffs only value hands like 99+, AQs+, and folding if he 4bets and I dont have KK or AA.

Probably a bit more to say there....like others said the table doesn't look that great and I'd consider leaving

Ding Ding Ding. Nailed the key points.

The guy directly to our left folds extremely well to steals. At 89% we can easily steal with ATC SBvsBB until he shows he can adjust. And not only that, he almost never 3-bets either and he's fairly passive postflop so he's rarely going to put us in a tough spot. The note I have on him says that he uses the Auto Fold buttons when in the blinds, so given that it's unlikely he's paying enough attention to adjust at all.

The guy directly to our right is like a dream come true and a virtual ATM. An ~80% Ft3b stat is unreal for a micro reg (I belive my DB average is at 53% right now for players with >1k hands) especially for someone stealing as much as he is. Not only that, he gives up fairly frequently post flop (WTF@45% Cbet lol) so we can comfortably flat a lot BTNvsCO and BBvsSB against him and take a lot of pots away from him.

These 2 guys right here make this an extremely profitable position to be in. If I wasn't seated in this exact spot, I would have gotten up as some of you suggested. But this seat is basically a printing press and there's no one at the table that's going to try to stop you from exploiting the hell out of it. The fish wasn't SS the whole time, I admit I took a pretty bad time to screenshot this table. He was usually sitting on a half stack. Also, I notice that everyone that responded is a ROW player. Sadly, as a US player there's not a ton of better spots than this most of the time if I want to play more than 3 or 4 tables. At most times there's <10 tables of 4NL 6max standard buy-in tables running where I play.

This post is the start of a little mini-series I'm going to start doing about learning how to exploit micro regs. This is probably the biggest stumbling block that keeps most players from getting past 25NL. Eventually you have to learn how to beat good players as well as fish. If your goal is to move up and get out of the micros you need to get better at playing vs. good players instead of just avoiding them. Table selecting well is probably the single most important skill for succeeding at poker, but as you move up even good tables are going to consist of mostly good players. And always sitting at only the best tables available is going to inhibit your growth as a player.

Just for reference, attached is the same table with my stats displayed. My overall stats are 20/18 with a 6% 3-bet.

 

[micromachine]

Ahhhh I made a mistake - of course, in my second paragraph I was talking about the guys on my RIGHT not on my left lol

Should have been...

Guy to my right has high steal stat and highish Foldto3b stat so I'll be 3betting him quite a bit with a range including bluff hands. Next guy to right, setfiretopot, has a low Foldto3b stat and he's a nit so I'm not 3betting him with bluffs only value hands like 99+, AQs+, and folding if he 4bets and I dont have KK or AA.

 

[micromachine]

This post is the start of a little mini-series I'm going to start doing about learning how to exploit micro regs.

Sounds great, I'm interested

 

[dsvw56]

Sounds great, I'm interested

Well you're up first. Pick a reg in your DB you have a lot of hands on (preferably 5k+), post his positional stats breakdown. If you have HM3, use the LeakBuster Positional report. Outline what you think his biggest leaks are, and how you think is the best way to exploit them.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Great to have someone with your experience and knowledge of the game around, dsvw - will be great to see where you go with all this.

And as a US player, I can agree and say that often you CAN'T leave tables where you're playing, or you lose volume.

 

[micromachine]

Well you're up first. Pick a reg in your DB you have a lot of hands on (preferably 5k+), post his positional stats breakdown. If you have HM3, use the LeakBuster Positional report. Outline what you think his biggest leaks are, and how you think is the best way to exploit them.

Ok. Will do later or tomorrow, I know which reg I'm going to choose

 

[pocketehs]

I just played a big pot with deep stacks and Im curious about how I played it. We only lose to three hands JJ / QJ / Q6 but there are so many Qx that I think he raises and we can get value from on the river however, Im not sure if I played the river correctly by just jamming?

Like although we lose to Q6 I doubt he opens with it UTG but QJ is a possibility. Anyone hate the call on the turn as well even though we're getting 4.13:1?


Villain: 39/16/6.3 Ft3Bet 50% over 103 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP2 ($3.35)
MP3 ($0.33)
Hero (CO) ($4.71)
Button ($0.84)
SB ($1.95)
BB ($2.35)
Villain (UTG) ($4.58)
UTG+1 ($3.48)
MP1 ($2.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

, 9

Villain bets $0.04, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.16, 3 folds, Villain calls $0.12, MP2 calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.51) Q

, J

, Q

(3 players)
Villain checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.51) 6

(3 players)
Villain bets $0.24, MP2 calls $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

River: ($1.23) 9

(3 players)
Villain bets $0.72, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.31 (All-In), Villain calls $3.46 (All-In)

Total pot: $9.59 | Rake: $0.30

 

[The Messiah]

Fold turn.

 

[micromachine]

Righto, here's my 5nl Romanian multi-tabling nit reg. Irritatingly I've lost 5 buy-ins to him because looking at his positional report he should be fairly easy to play against.

Main points I can see are

1) Steal his blinds relentlessly - Fold to Steal super high and he doesn't 3b much, especially from the blinds...might be sample size but it looks like he prefers to 3b in position. He prob 3bets QQ+, AQs+ only so I'm 4betting KK+ and AKs but he buys in deep 250bb every time and so do I so I can probably flat PPs to setmine if the 3b isn't too big.

2) He is a showdown nit - 61% W$SD is pretty high so he usually has it at showdown, as he is quite passive overall with an AFq of 36% I'm guessing he gives up easily postflop if he doesn't have the goods so we might be able to bluff c/r flops or bluff raise turns effectively.

3) CBetF is really low at 39% - he probably only Cbets if he hits the flop, so if he checks we need to bet almost every time and take the pot down.

4) He's not that positionally aware - He should be stealing more from the BTN and as his BTN PFR is only 14% we shouldn't 3bet his BTN raises light.

More to say I'm sure, hopefully you guys will spot other things to exploit

I'll do another one in a few days who I consider to be a much tougher reg who plays 10nl-25nl.

Edit: There aren't any regs I have 5k hands on BTW, think about 3k is the most

 

[JOEBOB69]

Fold turn.

+1

 

[AlfieAA]

I just played a big pot with deep stacks and Im curious about how I played it. We only lose to three hands JJ / QJ / Q6 but there are so many Qx that I think he raises and we can get value from on the river however, Im not sure if I played the river correctly by just jamming?

Like although we lose to Q6 I doubt he opens with it UTG but QJ is a possibility. Anyone hate the call on the turn as well even though we're getting 4.13:1?


Villain: 39/16/6.3 Ft3Bet 50% over 103 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP2 ($3.35)
MP3 ($0.33)
Hero (CO) ($4.71)
Button ($0.84)
SB ($1.95)
BB ($2.35)
Villain (UTG) ($4.58)
UTG+1 ($3.48)
MP1 ($2.20)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9

, 9

Villain bets $0.04, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.04, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.16, 3 folds, Villain calls $0.12, MP2 calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.51) Q

, J

, Q

(3 players)
Villain checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.51) 6

(3 players)
Villain bets $0.24, MP2 calls $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

River: ($1.23) 9

(3 players)
Villain bets $0.72, 1 fold, Hero raises to $4.31 (All-In), Villain calls $3.46 (All-In)

Total pot: $9.59 | Rake: $0.30

bet on the flop

 

[Logan2]

Had one for you guys. Best line vs this specific player?.

Poker Stars $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players

UTG+1: $1.52
MP1: $2.33
MP2: $2.06
Hero (CO): $3.45
BTN: $1.37
SB: $1.85
BB: $2.27
UTG: $0.77

Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero is CO with A

A

UTG raises to $0.06, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.18, 4 folds

villain is 7/7/9 3b:0 f3b:100 CB:67%, R1 from utg is 9 on 174 hands.

So i know that 3b to him is make him fold unless he wake up with AA/KK, so it looks the best is flat, but we have 3 people left to act and i don´t want to end in a multiway pot. Also even flatting he not gona pay to us unless he hit his set no?. add to that is a shorstack so really not much idea what to do, do i just 3 bet and move on? or flat and wait to he trow his cb and at least get a extra there and pray don´t get call also for the rest to act? (i mean is 2nl if 2 get in rest usually are too).

thoughts
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[micromachine]

^^ I still 3b, even if the nit folds one of the remaining players may come along and like you said you don't want to let them in cheap and play multiway. As he is short you are more interested in getting the other stacks anyway.

 

[youregoodmate]

^^ I still 3b, even if the nit folds one of the remaining players may come along and like you said you don't want to let them in cheap and play multiway. As he is short you are more interested in getting the other stacks anyway.

This

 

[Logan2]

Yeah, sounds ok, flatting sounds like a gamble and we can just move on to a better target.

Posted 5 hands on my thread guys, having a hard time so please be ruthless i nead to fix those leaks.
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[dsvw56]

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Righto, here's my 5nl Romanian multi-tabling nit reg. Irritatingly I've lost 5 buy-ins to him because looking at his positional report he should be fairly easy to play against.

Main points I can see are

1) Steal his blinds relentlessly - Fold to Steal super high and he doesn't 3b much, especially from the blinds...might be sample size but it looks like he prefers to 3b in position. He prob 3bets QQ+, AQs+ only so I'm 4betting KK+ and AKs but he buys in deep 250bb every time and so do I so I can probably flat PPs to setmine if the 3b isn't too big.

2) He is a showdown nit - 61% W$SD is pretty high so he usually has it at showdown, as he is quite passive overall with an AFq of 36% I'm guessing he gives up easily postflop if he doesn't have the goods so we might be able to bluff c/r flops or bluff raise turns effectively.

3) CBetF is really low at 39% - he probably only Cbets if he hits the flop, so if he checks we need to bet almost every time and take the pot down.

4) He's not that positionally aware - He should be stealing more from the BTN and as his BTN PFR is only 14% we shouldn't 3bet his BTN raises light.

More to say I'm sure, hopefully you guys will spot other things to exploit

I'll do another one in a few days who I consider to be a much tougher reg who plays 10nl-25nl.

Edit: There aren't any regs I have 5k hands on BTW, think about 3k is the most

Pretty solid overall analysis. Hit most of the key areas. Let's try to get a little more indepth though. Here's some things to think about :

1. How wide should you be opening from the SB if he is the BB?
2. General adjustments you can make when you are the BB and he opens from the SB.
3. Look at his hands that went to shodown and try to identify any betting paterns with certain hand types. Does he ever play draws aggressively? Is he always checking back the turn with weak TP type hands? Can you find any spots where he bluff raised? etc . . .
4. Whats your general 3-betting range going to be COvs.BTN? BTNvsBB?
5. Filter for spots where he gets donked into on the flop. How does he respond? How can you use donk bets effectively vs. him.
6. Filter for spots where his Flop cbet was raised. What types of flop textures is he continuing on and which is he folding?


I know it may seem like I'm making you do all the work here, but that's kind of the idea. To teach you how to identify common spots in your opponents games where you can eek out extra value. It likes the old "Give a man a fish" saying. Learning how to find these spots and what you should be looking for is infinitely more valuable than having someone tell you exactly what they are. Knowing what to do is important, but knowing why you are doing it is invaluable.

 

[micromachine]

Pretty solid overall analysis. Hit most of the key areas. Let's try to get a little more indepth though. Here's some things to think about :

1. How wide should you be opening from the SB if he is the BB?
2. General adjustments you can make when you are the BB and he opens from the SB.
3. Look at his hands that went to shodown and try to identify any betting paterns with certain hand types. Does he ever play draws aggressively? Is he always checking back the turn with weak TP type hands? Can you find any spots where he bluff raised? etc . . .
4. Whats your general 3-betting range going to be COvs.BTN? BTNvsBB?
5. Filter for spots where he gets donked into on the flop. How does he respond? How can you use donk bets effectively vs. him.
6. Filter for spots where his Flop cbet was raised. What types of flop textures is he continuing on and which is he folding?


I know it may seem like I'm making you do all the work here, but that's kind of the idea. To teach you how to identify common spots in your opponents games where you can eek out extra value. It likes the old "Give a man a fish" saying. Learning how to find these spots and what you should be looking for is infinitely more valuable than having someone tell you exactly what they are. Knowing what to do is important, but knowing why you are doing it is invaluable.

OK I'll dig a bit more, give me a day or two though, time is not on my side these days.

Analyzing regs like this is an interesting exercise but I suppose that this kind of in depth analysis is more important on the smaller site (or at higher levels) where you sit with some of the same regs every day. The reason I don't have more the about 3k hands on anyone is because the player pool is so massive on Stars. For that reason is my time not better spent, for now, playing and winning from the fish to build my bankroll up so I can play at a decent level, and then start doing reg analysis? Just a thought. But either way it's useful practice for later

 

[micromachine]

How's everyone doing with the race to $500?!

Logan I know you had to withdraw and had a bad run too but what about you Yoshimmi and Peels? I'm up to ~$410 now so not too far off.

 

[orangepeeleo]

Lol, currently at $230 so you've pretty much won already ez game!

 

[AlfieAA]

Good luck with the race guys....can we put prop bets on it?

 

[orangepeeleo]

Prob bet now with MM only 9bi's off $500?? I dont like my chances lol

 

[Logan2]

How's everyone doing with the race to $500?!

Logan I know you had to withdraw and had a bad run too but what about you Yoshimmi and Peels? I'm up to ~$410 now so not too far off.

i´m on $59 and close to catch lol

 

[pocketehs]

Got some extra cash now that Im on coop and not in school for the next 8 months. Was thinkin about depositing another $50 on stars for the 100% deposit bonus and then could play 5nl...good idea or should i just wait until I can clear 2NL again?

 

[Logan2]

Deposit and jump to 5nl doc, even if can´t beat 5nl right away ( i think you could easyly) you can improve way more on 5nl vs 2nl where everyone is limping and 3b is not existent. (you know what i mean we talk about this.)

You already beat 2nl by more than 10bb/100 i think, nothing more to be proving there man, move up already, if the $50 extra help to take the shot for a longer period and add to that you will be clearing a bonus then what are you expecting. Move up or transfer me the $50 and i move up
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[micromachine]

Deposit and jump to 5nl doc, even if can´t beat 5nl right away ( i think you could easyly) you can improve way more on 5nl vs 2nl where everyone is limping and 3b is not existent. (you know what i mean we talk about this.)
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I agree with this, you already beat 2nl so I'm sure you'll do fine at 5nl