MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[ScottishMatt]

Most of my time at Zoom so far indicates that players prefer to flat 3Bets (even OOP) rather than 4Bet. That along with his timing (he insta-4Bet) and sizing means we can comfortably fold here right?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $7.56
SB: $2.28 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 11)
BB: $5.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: $5.22 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP: $5.17 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
CO: $2.97 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q:spade: Q:heart:

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, UTG raises to $1.50, fold

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $7.67 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 5)
SB: $9.69 (VPIP: 35.71, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
BB: $3.83 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (UTG): $5.67
MP: $3.01 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
CO: $4.89 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K:spade: K:heart:

Hero raises to $0.15, fold, CO raises to $0.25, fold, SB calls $0.23, fold, Hero raises to $1.00, CO calls $0.75, SB calls $0.75

Flop: ($3.05, 3 players) 6:heart: 5:diamond: Q:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $1.20, CO raises to $2.40, fold, Hero calls $1.20

Turn: ($7.85, 2 players) T:club:
Hero checks, CO bets $1.49 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.49

River: ($10.83, 2 players) 2:diamond:

Hero shows K:spade: K:heart: (One Pair, Kings) (Pre 82%, Flop 82%, Turn 18%)
CO shows T:spade: 6:spade: (Two Pair, Tens and Sixes) (Pre 18%, Flop 18%, Turn 82%)
CO wins $10.38

Every time.

We are fine to play it like this post flop though yeah? We are obviously never folding and with his fishy betsizing throughout the hand we should let him spewbluff if he is ever capable of it, right?

 

[ScottishMatt]

I thought he can only call here with JJ/QQ. Good spot to bet?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): $9.74
SB: $3.81 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 14.81, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 30)
BB: $8.26 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 17)
UTG: $5.60 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: $18.31 (VPIP: 21.95, PFR: 19.51, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
CO: $4.02 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has Q:spade: J:heart:

fold, MP raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47, 3 players) T:heart: 5:spade: T:spade:
BB checks, MP bets $0.35, Hero raises to $1.00, fold, MP calls $0.65

Turn: ($2.47, 2 players) T:club:
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($2.47, 2 players) K:heart:
MP checks, Hero bets $1.20

 

[Matt Vaughan]

yes. you run gross. l2 run better imo.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

QJ hand our line looks too bluffy imo and we can get hero'd down too easily.

 

[ScottishMatt]

More I think about it I think you are right. Definite X/B OTR as I'm actually ahead of some of his range. I think his NFD:JJ/QQ ratio doesn't warrant a bet there. Flop is juicy though right?

And that turn just ****ed me over. Like every time I get in a spot or make a move - the worst card in the deck for me comes on the next street. Ridic but W/E.

Oh and the loltard 6 tabling reg in QJo showed up with 77, I can't assume these people are any good lol. Obv I was repping exactly as I would a FH/quads but he is never going to understand that.

Quick edit:

Is this too thin?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $14.08 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 7)
SB: $6.26 (VPIP: 37.50, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
BB: $1.71 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: $5.24 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: $5.55
Hero (CO): $5.25

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has 9:diamond: 9:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.15, fold, SB calls $0.13, fold

Flop: ($0.35, 2 players) J:spade: 7:club: T:spade:
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.35, 2 players) 9:heart:
SB bets $0.15, Hero raises to $0.50, SB calls $0.35

River: ($1.35, 2 players) 3:club:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.65, SB calls $0.65

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $6.98 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
SB: $2.45 (VPIP: 17.95, PFR: 2.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
BB: $4.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
UTG: $9.60 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: $4.98 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
Hero (CO): $6.89

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K:club: K:heart:

UTG raises to $0.10, fold, Hero raises to $0.45, fold, fold, fold, UTG raises to $1.42, Hero calls $0.97

Flop: ($2.91, 2 players) J:spade: J:heart: 6:spade:
UTG bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95

Turn: ($4.81, 2 players) A:spade:
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.81, 2 players) 3:heart:
UTG bets $1.90, fold

I didn't consider a flop shove at the time, perhaps I should consider something like it for future hands. Thoughts on how I played this?

(Reasoning for flatting pre is I want to keep in the hands I beat if he can have QQ/AK here, his minbet to 3x 4Bet reeks of strength . . . at the same time though I'm not folding KK pre)

 

[bjj_mat]

Looking through some hands I had marked. Only got this one spot for the moment.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $1.32 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
SB: $8.25 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
BB: $2.12
UTG: $5.48 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (MP): $5.00
CO: $5.00

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has T♥ A♥

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, fold, fold, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.47, 3 players) 6♥ 3♥ 5♥
BB checks, Hero bets $0.30, CO raises to $0.70, BB calls $0.70, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($2.57, 3 players) A♠
BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50, Hero raises to $3.10, fold, BB calls $0.77 and is all-in

River: ($5.61, 2 players) K♠

BB shows 7♣ 8♠ (High Card, Ace) (Pre 35%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows T♥ A♥ (Flush, Ace High) (Pre 65%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins $5.38

Best way to maximise value?

I prefer call on turn. BB is commited already and will call all in on river unless it's a flush draw he has. I'm more interested in CO and his chips.

 

[ScottishMatt]

More spots. Either I get the worst runouts imaginable or I valuebet too thin, which from what I've been told cannot be true. General feedback I get is that I don't valuebet thin enough. Someone just tell me where I go wrong, cause I can't win a single hand.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $9.71 (VPIP: 28.57, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $6.22 (VPIP: 14.81, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 54)
UTG: $15.87 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: $4.83 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
CO: $5.02 (VPIP: 20.75, PFR: 13.21, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 55)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has K:heart: K:club:

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.15, Hero raises to $0.55, fold, BTN calls $0.40

Flop: ($1.15, 2 players) Q:diamond: 9:spade: Q:club:
Hero bets $0.55, BTN calls $0.55

Turn: ($2.25, 2 players) 2:diamond:
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($2.25, 2 players) T:club:
Hero bets $1.00, BTN raises to $8.61 and is all-in, fold


PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $9.65 (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 5.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 20)
SB: $4.85 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
BB: $5.07 (VPIP: -, PFR: -, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: $20.49 (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (MP): $5.00
CO: $3.76 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A:heart: A:spade:

fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.37, 2 players) J:diamond: T:spade: 3:spade:
Hero bets $0.25, CO calls $0.25

Turn: ($0.87, 2 players) 7:spade:
Hero bets $0.50, CO calls $0.50

River: ($1.87, 2 players) 6:club:
Hero bets $0.90, CO raises to $1.80, fold

 

[ScottishMatt]

lol -

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $6.72 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
Hero (SB): $5.00
BB: $11.63 (VPIP: 25.64, PFR: 25.64, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 39)
UTG: $1.91 (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP: $20.61 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 8.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
CO: $9.42 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)

Hero posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has J:diamond: A:spade:

fold, fold, CO raises to $0.10, BTN calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, fold, CO calls $0.30, fold

Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) Q:club: 7:club: 7:heart:
Hero bets $0.70, CO calls $0.70

Turn: ($2.35, 2 players) K:club:
Hero bets $1.25, CO raises to $2.50, fold

 

[bjj_mat]

I call river on AA hand.... Can't see myself folding there profitably. Remember, this is micro stakes, they will raise with any Jack imho, thinking they have value against a 10 or something.

It's 0.90 to win 4.57. You're winning too often to fold. Bad fold imho.

 

[ScottishMatt]

If he thinks raising a J is for value then he does it on an earlier street.

FWIW he is about as reg as it gets at 5NL - was 3 tabling Zoom. His sizing though indicates he is bad. If a bad reg min-raises a river triple barrel on straight+flush board then I'm not sure 1 pair is any good. An absurdly good price yes, but he never valuebets worse and he never bluffs any hand that he makes it to the river with that we beat IMO.

Perhaps my mindset played into the fold. I can't BE at 5NL lol and I'm second guessing every action I make.

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.00
SB: $10.95
BB: $25.96 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
UTG: $13.37 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
MP: $10.00 (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 9)
Hero (CO): $10.62

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T:spade: T:club:

fold, MP raises to $0.30, Hero calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.75, 2 players) K:diamond: 9:club: T:heart:
MP checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP raises to $1.20, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.15, 2 players) 6:club:
MP bets $2.25, Hero calls $2.25

River: ($7.65, 2 players) J:spade:
MP bets $6.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.25

Actually considered folding flop seeing as he is repping KK/99/QJ and is obviously playing for stacks. I decided to just call down no matter what though. Lost so much already, what's one more BI right?

Anyone find a fold here?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Slow down with the spots Matt.

99, I think we're overrepping our hand a bit too much and as gross as it feels I'd rather call down.

First KK, jam the flop prease.

Second KK, I think your line is ok, but I'm not sure if going for 2 streets against his worse pocket pairs on the flop and turn might be better.

AA, I'm gonna be hard-pressed to find a fold getting that price, but I also play on Bovada where retarded min raises are sometimes air. But on a real site it's hard to see how you're ever good here. WP.

AJ, are we 3betting for value? As played, postflop looks fine.

TT his sizing is so lawl, and there's no way he snap-jams 6/7 pot with 99 on that river card. I think he has QJ almost always. But I'm also not sure I'm capable of folding that in-game.

 

[ScottishMatt]

First KK. Are we X/C'ing flop and then getting one bet in OTR if turn goes X/X?

If he bets flop and turn we are folding right?

 

[ScottishMatt]

Aight so another hand here. Not many stats on this fool but he is 4 tabling so probably a horribad reg. Normally I fold river here cause like A9 is checking it back but I keep thinking about how I fold too much so was like "WTH I cawl". Thoughts?

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $1.87 (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
SB: $2.21 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 22.22, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
BB: $2.68 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 100.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (UTG): $2.00
MP: $4.97 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
CO: $1.96 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has Q:club: A:club:

Hero raises to $0.06, MP calls $0.06, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: ($0.15, 2 players) A:spade: T:club: 7:club:
Hero bets $0.10, MP calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.35, 2 players) 5:heart:
Hero bets $0.22, MP calls $0.22

River: ($0.79, 2 players) J:heart:
Hero checks, MP bets $0.38, Hero calls $0.38

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I mean, is he really not betting 2 streets with QQ or air? I realize it's 5nl so he definitely might not be.

He's probably bad enough to go for a half-pot bet with A9 or A8 here... I think it's really close to a breakeven call but I think it's okay to call? I'm less concerned about two pair and more concerned about like 98s.

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $2.21 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
SB: $1.08
BB: $2.50 (VPIP: 9.09, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 22)
UTG: $1.05 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
Hero (MP): $2.50
CO: $2.57 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.03) Hero has A:diamond: K:club:

fold, Hero raises to $0.06, fold, BTN calls $0.06, SB calls $0.05, fold

Flop: ($0.20, 3 players) 4:spade: 3:diamond: 4:heart:
SB checks, Hero bets $0.12, fold, SB calls $0.12

Turn: ($0.44, 2 players) A:club:
SB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

River: ($0.72, 2 players) 9:diamond:
SB bets $0.34, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $0.42 and is all-in

This is fine right?

 

[doomasiggy]

matt, 2nl, why?

and yeah that looks fine. Doubt he donks any fulls OTT, his range is mostly worse aces.

1)Full Tilt - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: $6.00 (VPIP: 24.71, PFR: 20.11, 3Bet Preflop: 7.25, Hands: 177)
BB: $10.05 (VPIP: 44.62, PFR: 3.08, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 65)
UTG: $10.35 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 10.78, 3Bet Preflop: 5.49, Hands: 238)
MP: $8.20 (VPIP: 22.39, PFR: 15.67, 3Bet Preflop: 3.88, Hands: 274)
Hero (CO): $5.14
BTN: $3.30 (VPIP: 34.21, PFR: 24.56, 3Bet Preflop: 12.77, Hands: 119)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A:spade: A:club:

UTG raises to $0.15, fold, Hero calls $0.15, fold, SB calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.60, 4 players) Q:heart: 5:heart: K:diamond:
SB checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.38, Hero raises to $1.74, fold, fold, UTG calls $1.36

Turn: ($4.08, 2 players) 7:heart:
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: ($4.08, 2 players) 9:diamond:
UTG bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00

2)Full Tilt - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): $6.25
UTG+1: $10.83 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 10.42, 3Bet Preflop: 5.75, Hands: 244)
UTG+2: $8.49 (VPIP: 24.14, PFR: 3.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 60)
MP: $5.43 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 10.78, 3Bet Preflop: 5.49, Hands: 238)
MP+1: $6.93 (VPIP: 23.58, PFR: 7.55, 3Bet Preflop: 1.33, Hands: 215)
CO: $7.41 (VPIP: 9.40, PFR: 2.99, 3Bet Preflop: 2.30, Hands: 236)
BTN: $5.00 (VPIP: 7.32, PFR: 4.88, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 41)
SB: $8.71 (VPIP: 18.26, PFR: 6.09, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 116)
BB: $5.00 (VPIP: 20.23, PFR: 8.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 174)

SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A:heart: Q:club:

Hero raises to $0.17, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls $0.17, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.53, 3 players) 8:spade: A:diamond: 6:diamond:
BB bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20, fold

Turn: ($0.93, 2 players) Q:spade:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.65, BB raises to $1.85, Hero

 

[ScottishMatt]

2NL cause if you didn't catch the last 2 pages or so it is simply filled up with my bitching about run bad. Seriously though, August was like -30 BI month and almost all coolers. Sickest run bad I've had so far. So I'm just ****ing about at 2NL for a while. Running 15 BI below EV at 2NL but still at 10bb/100 lol. Confidence is up slightly though which is the most critical part.

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

don't play FR, but we have to fold the AQ

AA hand is odd, just 3bet the nits UTG open > flatting pre to raise out all his air OTF

 

[pocketehs]

raise / fold lol?


PokerStars - $0.16 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $10.12 (VPIP: 21.05, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 40)
SB: $26.45 (VPIP: 27.94, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 70)
BB: $16.24 (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
UTG: $14.99 (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
MP: $17.44 (VPIP: 23.94, PFR: 19.72, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 72)
Hero (CO): $16.16

SB posts SB $0.08, BB posts BB $0.16

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.24) Hero has A:club: 8:club:

fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.48, fold, fold, BB calls $0.32

Flop: ($1.04, 2 players) 8:spade: 6:diamond: K:spade:
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.04, 2 players) Q:club:
BB bets $0.48, Hero calls $0.48

River: ($2.00, 2 players) 8:diamond:
BB bets $1.30, Hero raises to $4.00, BB raises to $15.28 and is all-in, Hero

 

[ScottishMatt]

Relative unknown can have worse 8's here surely. He can probably defend 89s etc.

I'd only be worried about K8/66 and I feel that is far too narrow a range to be making a fold like this. We need more info to take raise/fold line IMO. So cawl it off like a fish.

 

[JOEBOB69]

2NL cause if you didn't catch the last 2 pages or so it is simply filled up with my bitching

LMAO

 

[pocketehs]

Relative unknown can have worse 8's here surely. He can probably defend 89s etc.

I'd only be worried about K8/66 and I feel that is far too narrow a range to be making a fold like this. We need more info to take raise/fold line IMO. So cawl it off like a fish.

yeah and KQ as well i think. itd be a tight fold for sure but i think i need to stop calling off so much.

btw starting a serious grind again!