MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

ScottishMatt · Oct 29, 2014

PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $11.41 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 2)
SB: $12.52 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: $35.82
Hero (UTG): $10.30
MP: $22.15 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K:spade: T:spade:

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) Q:diamond: 5:spade: 6:heart:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45, 2 players) J:club:
BB checks, Hero bets $0.91, BB raises to $2.60

I was pretty lost so can someone explain what we should do here and why?

youregoodmate · Oct 29, 2014

ScottishMatt said:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): $11.98
BB: $10.50 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 40.00, Hands: 12)
CO: $12.04 (VPIP: 41.67, PFR: 41.67, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 12)
BTN: $10.27 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 12)

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 6♣ 7♣

fold, BTN raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, BTN calls $0.65

Flop: ($1.90, 2 players) T♣ 4♠ A♠
Hero bets $1.19, BTN calls $1.19

Turn: ($4.28, 2 players) 3♣
Hero bets $2.33, BTN calls $2.33

River: ($8.94, 2 players) 2♥
Hero checks, BTN checks

Had made a few moves against him previously so didn't feel like triple would work out too well. With completely unchanged board texture I feel like the only hand I'm ever getting called with OTF that will fold to a double is JJ. 2P+ jams turn and his Ax is never folding to two barrels and I don't feel like betting three streets when I miss considering meta factors. In hindsight I think X/J turn is good as we can bomb river if he checks back and we hit + we extract vs his floats and maximise fold equity. Agree?

X/j is very polarised. Ax and AT would bet the turn so we're pretty much just sets and even they usually bet the turn to avoid check backs and to get proper value from worse. Shoving just looks very drawy to a competent player. I like your line, although I prob bet more on the turn.

xdeucesx · Oct 29, 2014

ScottishMatt said:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $11.41 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $12.52 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: $35.82
Hero (UTG): $10.30
MP: $22.15 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♠ T♠

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) Q♦ 5♠ 6♥
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45, 2 players) J♣
BB checks, Hero bets $0.91, BB raises to $2.60

I was pretty lost so can someone explain what we should do here and why?

Math

(i'm in class so this is very brief)

but anyways, were beat (obviously), but we can draw to the clean nuts every time. An A or 9 can't fill him up, so we don't have to worry about that. Therefore, do the math.

Putting in 1.69$ to win (2.60+2.60+1.45 = 6.65$) is roughly 4/1. That alone would just about be enough to make the call profitable, however since we have (10-2.60-.40-.30 = 6.70) 6.70$ left behind, our implied odds are obviously improved in this situation as well. You can't really say "putting in 1.69$ to win 6.65 (current pot) + remaining 6.70$, since implied odds are obviously just that...implied, but in this situation, I think it's fair to assess that after villain c/c flop, c/r turn that he's incredibly strong here (think beluga theorem). Therefore, I doubt he even slows down on an A or 9 river, meaning we probably GII on good rivers.

tl;dr: Flat the raise and GII on good rivers.

youregoodmate · Oct 29, 2014

ScottishMatt said:
PokerStars - $0.10 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: $11.41 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)
SB: $12.52 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
BB: $35.82
Hero (UTG): $10.30
MP: $22.15 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
CO: $10.00 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 2)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has K♠ T♠

Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.65, 2 players) Q♦ 5♠ 6♥
BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, BB calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.45, 2 players) J♣
BB checks, Hero bets $0.91, BB raises to $2.60

I was pretty lost so can someone explain what we should do here and why?

He's obviously strong, 2 pair minimum, that's in no doubt. We have to call $1.70 to win an effective $11 if we stack every time we hit. We hit 17% of the time and that will be to the nuts ofc. If he has a set we stack every time and QJ most of the time but I think his range is mostly sets. So for me calling is marginal, profitability probably comes down to rake %.

youregoodmate · Oct 29, 2014

It's probably just a call. I think he gets it in often enough to be profitable.

We need 13% to be good before rake and assuming he gets it in every time. So 17% is probably enough to do that.

ScottishMatt · Oct 29, 2014

youregoodmate said:
X/j is very polarised. Ax and AT would bet the turn so we're pretty much just sets and even they usually bet the turn to avoid check backs and to get proper value from worse. Shoving just looks very drawy to a competent player. I like your line, although I prob bet more on the turn.

I see one problem with my line though. The only hands of his that stack on the rivers where we hit are 2P+ and seeing as all of them excepting those that also hit the river (AQ on Qc for example) are jamming turn then I struggle to think we gain any value when we hit. What I'm saying is that I don't even know if he has a triple barrel calling range here but I'm positive he isn't folding to the double. So yeah uh, how do we turn this scenario into profit?

As for the KTs hand, I was just confused cause I didn't think some of his range would call should we hit the A (QJ to be specific). Anyway I called and river went X/X. He had T9 and I won! Yay!

ScottishMatt · Oct 30, 2014

Chucked some money on 888 but I can't seem to get the HUD working. Are they no longer allowing HUDs or something cause PT4 is importing the hands fine?

Edit: this is weird. It's importing snap hands but not showing HUD. And. it's blatantly refusing to import hands from regular tables. Dafuq?

Speedexas · Oct 30, 2014

ScottishMatt said:
Chucked some money on 888 but I can't seem to get the HUD working. Are they no longer allowing HUDs or something cause PT4 is importing the hands fine?

Edit: this is weird. It's importing snap hands but not showing HUD. And. it's blatantly refusing to import hands from regular tables. Dafuq?

For me too , 888 doesnt want players to use HUD in SNAP (at least thats what i read). For me PT4 saved 3 hands out of like 500 at regular cash tables. HUD works in Fixed limit holdem.

redwards92 · Oct 30, 2014

ScottishMatt said:
Chucked some money on 888 but I can't seem to get the HUD working. Are they no longer allowing HUDs or something cause PT4 is importing the hands fine?

Edit: this is weird. It's importing snap hands but not showing HUD. And. it's blatantly refusing to import hands from regular tables. Dafuq?

HUDs don't work on snap tables.

When I started playing on 888 I had to reinstall the client like 5 times because the client wouldn't write hh's properly which prevented Pt4 from importing them properly(obvs).

You must be experiencing the same thing. I don't even know how it ended up working eventually but it did lol. Just delete it completely off your computer and try to reinstall.

Support is no help either lol

Logan2 · Oct 30, 2014

Huds work only on regular tables on 888.

Max # tables that can play are 6

Huwww · Nov 1, 2014

How to slow play like a pro...

Table 'Halley' 6-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Huwww ($2 in chips)
Seat 2: 72odonkey ($2.03 in chips)
Seat 3: mikesyrigos ($3.83 in chips)
Seat 4: mobsterious ($0.88 in chips)
Seat 5: mimimi42 ($2.24 in chips)
Seat 6: DrPimp78 ($2 in chips)
72odonkey: posts small blind $0.01
mikesyrigos: posts big blind $0.02
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Huwww [2d 2c]
mobsterious: folds
mimimi42: folds
DrPimp78: folds
Huwww: raises $0.04 to $0.06
72odonkey: folds
mikesyrigos: calls $0.04
*** FLOP *** [Jh Th Ts]
mikesyrigos: checks
Huwww: checks
*** TURN *** [Jh Th Ts] [9h]
mikesyrigos: checks
Huwww: checks
*** RIVER *** [Jh Th Ts 9h] [7s]
mikesyrigos: checks
Huwww: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
mikesyrigos: shows [Td Jd] (a full house, Tens full of Jacks)
Huwww: mucks hand
mikesyrigos collected $0.13 from pot

micromachine · Nov 1, 2014

Put you on KQhh obviously

mendiolacubicle · Nov 1, 2014

player' faces on getting that board is like 2 rocks playing against each other, stiff looking faces 😄😄😄

mottotom27 · Nov 8, 2014

What do you think about this hand? Should I assume he has a set? Or could he do this with an overpair? Villain is 31/13/2.6

Stacks:
UTG - UTG ($6.91)
CO - CO ($2.06)
BTN - BTN ($1.91)
SB - Hero ($2.04)
BB - BB ($2.22)

Preflop: ($0.03, 5 players) Hero is SB with Kc Ks
1 fold, CO raises to $0.07, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.23, 1 fold, CO calls $0.16

Flop: 2s 7d 4d ($0.48, 2 players - CO: $1.83, Hero: $1.81)
Hero bets $0.32, CO raises to $0.64, Hero ?

BenjiHustle · Nov 8, 2014

I would call and re-assess the turn.

Arran · Nov 8, 2014

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $14.85 (148.5 bb)
BB: $23.25 (232.5 bb)
MP: $11.13 (111.3 bb)
CO: $10.84 (108.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): $11.53 (115.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with As Kh
MP raises to $0.30, CO calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, 2 folds, MP raises to $2.60, 2 folds

When he min raises is this weakness? Should I be calling IP here? MP was very aggro preflop previous hands

micromachine · Nov 9, 2014

Well it's definitely not a fold so call or GII, think id shove as I hate calling 4bets with AK then missing the flop and having to fold

BenjiHustle · Nov 9, 2014

I could see this being AQ or a 50/50 with JJ/QQ. I can call and look to outplay post-flop.

Gii if you're okay with a coinflip.

Huwww · Nov 9, 2014

Been running bad almost all day, 5 minutes left of tonights session and I hit this beauty

Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: $2.08 (104 bb)
BB: $3.47 (173.5 bb)
Hero (UTG): $10.31 (515.5 bb)
MP: $2.09 (104.5 bb)
CO: $1.74 (87 bb)
BTN: $9.06 (453 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Jc Js
Hero raises to $0.06, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.18, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.12

Flop: ($0.39) 3h Jd 2h (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.19, Hero calls $0.19

Turn: ($0.77) Kc (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $0.74, Hero raises to $2.22, BTN raises to $8.69 and is all-in, Hero calls $6.47

River: ($18.15) Jh (2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $18.15 pot ($0.30 rake)
Final Board: 3h Jd 2h Kc Jh
Hero showed Jc Js and won $17.85 ($8.79 net)
BTN showed Qc Ks and lost (-$9.06 net)

micromachine · Nov 9, 2014

Jeezus nice 900bb pot. BTN...words fail me

mendiolacubicle · Nov 9, 2014

teach me master! 😂😂😂 That's what I call cosmic alignment of intergalactical chaces!

losties · Nov 10, 2014

Losing twice to quads Omg. That's just a super bad run. I know that I would be annoyed at losing like that

BenjiHustle · Nov 12, 2014

What in the world?

Turn AFq is where itt? What are we talking about here, alaz3r?

Ruffael · Nov 16, 2014

Hello there all!

My names Dean, im 26yo and live in England and im in search for an active study group to join. I'm a 2-5NL cash player on stars and I'm starting to take poker more seriously recently. I don't have a massive sample size (about 50k hands in total), but i feeling i am getting better slowly but as like most people are, am looking to get better!. Reading books, watching online tutorials and trying to track my leaks are a good source of learning, though i want to take a step further and find a good active study group that interact a lot about hand discussion, concepts and other poker related stuff. Also to find some poker buddies to have a laugh with along the way would be a bonus.
If anyone has a study group that sounds right for me, then either PM me or add me on my skype (Dean.Ruffell).
Thanks in advance for any replies!

RazorG · Nov 18, 2014

Did I play this hand right?

Pre Flop: Me(CO) with [Ac,5c]
P2(UTG) folds,
Me(CO) calls 0.05,
P5(BTN) calls 0.05, P6(SB) calls 0.03,
P1(BB) checks

Flop: (2c,5d,Ah) (4 players)
P6(SB) bets 0.05,
P1(BB) calls 0.05,
Me(MP) calls 0.05,
P5(BTN) calls 0.05

Turn: 2d (4 players)
P6(SB) bets 0.15,
P1(BB) calls 0.15,
Me(MP) calls 0.15,
P5(BTN) calls 0.15

River: 9s (4 players)
P6(SB) checks,
P1(BB) bets 1,
Me(MP) raises 2,
P5(BTN) folds,
P6(SB) folds,
P1(BB) raises 3.73,
Me(MP) calls 2.48

Final:
Returns 0.25 to P1(BB)
P1(BB) shows [2h,9d]
P1(BB) wins 9.47

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