MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

AlfieAA · Jun 3, 2013

Yeah bigger bet on the turn jackle...maybe 1.60-1.80...1.15 is too low and still keeps him chasing the flush for cheap.....make him pay

Logan2 · Jun 3, 2013

Only 4 hands on villain.

Poker Stars $5.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players

BTN: $5.00
SB: $5.43
BB: $6.36 -
Hero (UTG): $5.15
UTG+1: $5.12 -
UTG+2: $2.37 -
MP1: $3.01 -
MP2: $5.00 -
CO: $3.39 -

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is UTG with K

K

Hero raises to $0.15, 4 folds, CO raises to $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.63, CO calls $0.38

Flop: ($1.33) Q

A

2

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.76, CO calls $0.76

Turn: ($2.85) 5

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($2.85) J

(2 players)
Hero ??

doomasiggy · Jun 3, 2013

check imo. Nothing worse calls if we bet.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 110.4 BB (VPIP: 12.30, PFR: 9.84, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, hands: 124)
SB: 93.2 BB
BB: 44.2 BB (VPIP: 10.53, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 19)
UTG: 341.6 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
UTG+1: 121.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
UTG+2: 96.6 BB (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
MP: 162 BB (VPIP: 57.14, PFR: 57.14, 3Bet Preflop: 50.00, Hands: 7)
MP+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 7.69, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
Hero (CO): 101.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T:club: T:heart:

fold, fold, fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP calls 4 BB

Flop: (13.4 BB, 2 players) 9:club: T:spade: Q:heart:
MP bets 11 BB, Hero raises to 32 BB, MP calls 21 BB

Turn: (77.4 BB, 2 players) K:diamond:
MP bets 124 BB and is all-in,

^Fold here? Tricky spot at the time. Guy is unknown.

ScottishMatt · Jun 3, 2013

Make it bigger pre Logan. I know 4-bet sizing should be smaller in general but when we get min 3-bet we can assume he is a super fish so we want to shovel as much money in PF as possible. I probably go .90 at least.

I definitely fold there Doom. Guy just has it every time. Probs make it more OTF as well, we know he is a fish for donking there so make it like 45BBs.

Oh, and have a lol@this guys :

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2229187
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UTG: $4.67
Hero (MP): $5.14
CO: $3.76
BTN: $5.18
SB: $11.42
BB: $3.44

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is MP with J

K

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO calls $0.15, 3 folds

Flop: ($0.37) 7

Q

T

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.20, CO raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($1.17) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.20, Hero calls $0.20

River: ($1.57) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Final Pot: $1.57
Hero shows J

K

(a pair of Queens)
CO shows 7

7

(a full house, Sevens full of Queens)
CO wins $1.50
(Rake: $0.07)

JOEBOB69 · Jun 3, 2013

I have an idea about the answer to this question, but no proof to back it up. I would like to see the % of times when villains C/R paired boards in a HU pot did they actually hit trips on the flop.

Maybe people with 50k plus hand samples over the past year could help me out. I'm not quite sure how to filter this. Obviously if they fold before SD you can rule trips out. If they win the pot with out showdown I guess you have to discount those hands?

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doomasiggy · Jun 4, 2013

PokerStars - $0.02 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 64 BB (VPIP: 10.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 14.00, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 53)
BB: 92.5 BB (VPIP: 8.11, PFR: 5.41, 3Bet Preflop: 1.82, Hands: 148)
Hero (UTG): 100.5 BB
UTG+1: 50.5 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+2: 127.5 BB (VPIP: 36.36, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
MP: 45 BB (VPIP: 11.11, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 27)
MP+1: 102.5 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 36.36, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 11)
CO: 112 BB (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T:diamond: T:heart:

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 4 BB, CO calls 4 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (13.5 BB, 3 players) 5:diamond: 2:heart: T:spade:
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 7 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (27.5 BB, 2 players) 4:club:
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 26 BB, Hero raises to 89.5 BB and is all-in

^We're cool with this right? When he potted the turn I assumed he was never folding.

ScottishMatt · Jun 4, 2013

Perfect line as far as I can tell. Only one hand got there and A3 is a fairly low % of a donking range on this flop. Just stick it in and soulcrush him with set over set.

doomasiggy · Jun 6, 2013

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 108.8 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.75, PFR: 7.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 219)
BB: 151 BB (VPIP: 6.00, PFR: 3.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 102)
UTG: 85.8 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 45.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG+1: 58.6 BB (VPIP: 44.68, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
UTG+2: 1181.4 BB (VPIP: 35.11, PFR: 20.21, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 94)
MP: 72 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 32)
MP+1: 86.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
CO: 93.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K:club: K:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.4 BB, Hero raises to 108.8 BB and is all-in,

^we fine with just jamming here?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 148 BB (VPIP: 12.27, PFR: 7.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.06, Hands: 272)
BB: 86 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 88.4 BB (VPIP: 13.54, PFR: 5.85, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 327)
UTG+1: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 8.11, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 112)
UTG+2: 187.6 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
Hero (MP): 161.4 BB
MP+1: 134.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
CO: 91.8 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:diamond: A:spade:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) J:diamond: 2:diamond: 6:diamond:
BB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 17 BB, BB raises to 83 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 66 BB

This hand I was just confused. Guy was unknown and had no idea what he was raising with, felt like raise/gii was the best spot since I had overcard+fd, but it felt spewey at the same time if that makes sense. I feel like in zoom we shouldn't be stacking off with one pair hands that much.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 350.6 BB (VPIP: 6.55, PFR: 5.04, 3Bet Preflop: 2.07, Hands: 405)
SB: 23.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 116.4 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 9.21, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
Hero (UTG): 101 BB
UTG+1: 134.4 BB (VPIP: 9.63, PFR: 8.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 136)
UTG+2: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 12.58, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 162)
MP: 114.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP+1: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 14.67, PFR: 11.56, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 227)
CO: 51 BB (VPIP: 6.85, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q:club: Q:heart:

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 4 BB, MP+1 calls 4 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 23.6 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero raises to 101 BB and is all-in

^This is more of a general question: should we ever be 4-bet jamming QQ vs 3-bets when we're utg? I ask because so many times when I do this they just snap off with AA and I'm starting to think it's not a cooler anymore.

xdeucesx · Jun 6, 2013

Hey, who has the youtube channel for the microcrushers videos?

I got a video about ranges and such and was wondering who to ship to so they can upload it for me

Ducky7 · Jun 6, 2013

your opinion is invalid imo

xdeucesx · Jun 6, 2013

Ducky7 said:
your opinion is invalid imo

f u noodle

Matt Vaughan · Jun 6, 2013

I do, can ship to me if you want or I can give you the details.

xdeucesx · Jun 6, 2013

Scourrge said:
I do, can ship to me if you want or I can give you the details.

sweet , i'll ship it to you once it's done

AlfieAA · Jun 6, 2013

doomasiggy said:
PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 108.8 BB
SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 10.75, PFR: 7.48, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 219)
BB: 151 BB (VPIP: 6.00, PFR: 3.00, 3Bet Preflop: 2.56, Hands: 102)
UTG: 85.8 BB (VPIP: 54.55, PFR: 45.45, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 11)
UTG+1: 58.6 BB (VPIP: 44.68, PFR: 10.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
UTG+2: 1181.4 BB (VPIP: 35.11, PFR: 20.21, 3Bet Preflop: 2.94, Hands: 94)
MP: 72 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 21.88, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 32)
MP+1: 86.4 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
CO: 93.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has K♣ K♦

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BB raises to 9.4 BB, Hero raises to 108.8 BB and is all-in,

^we fine with just jamming here?

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 101.4 BB (VPIP: 5.88, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 37)
SB: 148 BB (VPIP: 12.27, PFR: 7.06, 3Bet Preflop: 3.06, Hands: 272)
BB: 86 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
UTG: 88.4 BB (VPIP: 13.54, PFR: 5.85, 3Bet Preflop: 2.50, Hands: 327)
UTG+1: 105.2 BB (VPIP: 8.11, PFR: 8.11, 3Bet Preflop: 3.23, Hands: 112)
UTG+2: 187.6 BB (VPIP: 28.26, PFR: 17.39, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 47)
Hero (MP): 161.4 BB
MP+1: 134.4 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 21)
CO: 91.8 BB (VPIP: 42.11, PFR: 31.58, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A♦ A♠

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.4 BB, 2 players) J♦ 2♦ 6♦
BB bets 6 BB, Hero raises to 17 BB, BB raises to 83 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 66 BB

This hand I was just confused. Guy was unknown and had no idea what he was raising with, felt like raise/gii was the best spot since I had overcard+fd, but it felt spewey at the same time if that makes sense. I feel like in zoom we shouldn't be stacking off with one pair hands that much.

PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 350.6 BB (VPIP: 6.55, PFR: 5.04, 3Bet Preflop: 2.07, Hands: 405)
SB: 23.6 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 8)
BB: 116.4 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 9.21, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 77)
Hero (UTG): 101 BB
UTG+1: 134.4 BB (VPIP: 9.63, PFR: 8.15, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 136)
UTG+2: 100.4 BB (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 12.58, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 162)
MP: 114.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
MP+1: 161.4 BB (VPIP: 14.67, PFR: 11.56, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 227)
CO: 51 BB (VPIP: 6.85, PFR: 4.17, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 74)

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q♣ Q♥

Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 4 BB, MP+1 calls 4 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 23.6 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero raises to 101 BB and is all-in

^This is more of a general question: should we ever be 4-bet jamming QQ vs 3-bets when we're utg? I ask because so many times when I do this they just snap off with AA and I'm starting to think it's not a cooler anymore.

hand 1...whats your vpip/pfr?....if your vpip is low then i think you should flat his 3bet and pray for a K on the flop tbh, and if your v is high then you should deffo not 4bet shove i dont think...maybe min raise 4bet and if he 5bets you can get away instead of shove guessing

doomasiggy · Jun 7, 2013

@Alfie:

my stats are std TAG, 11/9. I think it's fine, my question was more about shoving/4-bet calling off, since if he's running 6/3 he should be 3-bet stacking off in this spot with basically his entire pfr range right?

AlfieAA · Jun 7, 2013

doomasiggy said:
@Alfie:

my stats are std TAG, 11/9. I think it's fine, my question was more about shoving/4-bet calling off, since if he's running 6/3 he should be 3-bet stacking off in this spot with basically his entire pfr range right?

It would need to be something you could take note of after the hand if he called, I would be just guessing if I said he would stack of here with the top of his range since he's limped half his hands...so yeah he looks super strong.

duggs · Jun 7, 2013

AlfieAA said:
It would need to be something you could take note of after the hand if he called, I would be just guessing if I said he would stack of here with the top of his range since he's limped half his hands...so yeah he looks super strong.

just to clarify, a 6/3 doesnt imply limping 50% of range. just like if i ran 45/35 i could do it with only with defending blinds/cold calling.

xdeucesx · Jun 7, 2013

video coming soooooon

JOEBOB69 · Jun 8, 2013

JOEBOB69 said:
I have an idea about the answer to this question, but no proof to back it up. I would like to see the % of times when villains C/R paired boards in a HU pot did they actually hit trips on the flop.

Maybe people with 50k plus hand samples over the past year could help me out. I'm not quite sure how to filter this. Obviously if they fold before SD you can rule trips out. If they win the pot with out showdown I guess you have to discount those hands?

Looking for limits 5nl-50nl
Go

Hey don't pay this moron any attention. He is just tring to get some strat convo itt.

xdeucesx · Jun 8, 2013

JOEBOB69 said:
Hey don't pay this moron any attention. He is just tring to get some strat convo itt.

gtfo

Matt Vaughan · Jun 8, 2013

AlfieAA · Jun 8, 2013

Scourrge said:
Ranges with Dr Deuces and Mr Scourrge - YouTube

great vid guys, make more please

xdeucesx · Jun 8, 2013

go watch that video yo

AlfieAA · Jun 9, 2013

What's your thoughts on playing small pocket pairs at 2nl 6max or even 5,10nl? ...do you open raise from mp2 with 22>66 or does it depend on images at the table...for example a maniacs in front of you and he 3bets everything, would you call to setmine if his stack was deep enough?....how do you feel about limping spp's in late position if there's a limped pot.....just trying to get an idea how to play them, as it stands now I open raise all pocket pairs and limp in LP if its a family pot....

Ducky7 · Jun 9, 2013

Dr Deuces, try to be more like me, i mean i know im an aspiration to everyone but jesus

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