MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Ducky7]

Ranges with Dr Deuces and Mr Scourrge - YouTube

Ok so im 0.55 into this vid and its already one of the most homosexual things ive ever seen

 

[Ducky7]

Also Deuces, worst laugh ever... so bent

 

[Ducky7]

I disagree with the statement position is key when it comes to ranges, obvs position is lol important to play hands

But when determining ranges i think a true'er statement would be "Position makes determining ranges alot easier as its harder to do OOP"

something like that

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I disagree with the statement position is key when it comes to ranges, obvs position is lol important to play hands

But when determining ranges i think a true'er statement would be "Position makes determining ranges alot easier as its harder to do OOP"

something like that

When he says position he means the position a villain is sitting in. Ie an UTG villain range looks different from a CO villain range

 

[Ducky7]

It didnt come across that way

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Erm, pretty sure it did. Was anyone else confused?

 

[JOEBOB69]

When he says position he means the position a villain is sitting in. Ie an UTG villain range looks different from a CO villain range

+1

Ducky prob couldn't hear, from eating and drinking too much.

 

[Cafeman]

+1

Ducky prob couldn't hear, from eating and drinking too much.

What he said

 

[Ducky7]

Peoples words are mean to me

 

[Matt Vaughan]

I've decided I'm just going to reciprocate, Ducky. I just took the abuse for a long time, without a word, but now I will only reciprocate...

 

[AlfieAA]

What's your thoughts on playing small pocket pairs at 2nl 6max or even 5,10nl? ...do you open raise from mp2 with 22>66 or does it depend on images at the table...for example a maniacs in front of you and he 3bets everything, would you call to setmine if his stack was deep enough?....how do you feel about limping spp's in late position if there's a limped pot.....just trying to get an idea how to play them, as it stands now I open raise all pocket pairs and limp in LP if its a family pot....

OI, keep the banter for skype and answer my ****ing question

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Will think more about it and answer when I'm not at my work computer

 

[AlfieAA]

Will think more about it and answer when I'm not at my work computer

good lad, i await your epic answer

 

[micromachine]

Not bad 5nl session tonight, Milestone hands brings out the fish for sure

 

[AlfieAA]

another question....so ive been using pot odds and outs in my micro decisions now and memorised it all so i dont need to do the 4&2 thing (thank ****)....but anyway, im sure i saw scourge mention that you use the 2 rule when making a decision on the flop instead of the rule of 4 which i think he said was used for all i situations...is that right and if so why?.....so just say im on a flush draw and im in position against 1 player and he bets half pot giving me pot odds of say 3/1 which is below the rule of 4 buy higher than the rule of 2 so when calculating with the rule of 4, do i continue in the hand or do i calculate with the rule of 2 which as everyone knows is 4/1.....confused.com

 

[AlfieAA]

Not bad 5nl session tonight, Milestone hands brings out the fish for sure

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wow you killed it, nice one,how many tables was that on?

 

[micromachine]

Generally its safer to use the rule of 2 on the flop because if you miss on the turn and then villain bets big your fecked. But implied odds must be considered, if you think villain will continue betting if a possible flush hits then you can call a bigger bet on the flop.

 

[micromachine]

wow you killed it, nice one,how many tables was that on?

Was 6, not playing more than that anymore especially as I'm moving up to 10nl now.

 

[AlfieAA]

Generally its safer to use the rule of 2 on the flop because if you miss on the turn and then villain bets big your fecked. But implied odds must be considered, if you think villain will continue betting if a possible flush hits then you can call a bigger bet on the flop.

Was 6, not playing more than that anymore especially as I'm moving up to 10nl now.

yeah so it depends on villian and if he will stack off...just seemed to me that with pots not being that high in pot odds we would never be getting the right odds to call any of them...coz they are all like 2/1, 3/1...and if you are on a 4 outer to a gutshot then you cant really do anything when going with the rule of 2...sort of limits all your draws....but yeah, im assuming implied odds would be taken into account...deffo hard to throw away a flush draw especially if the odds are 1 or 2 off making it right, and you dont know if villian will stack off if you hit....hmmm, guess it just depends and we need to go with instinct without making too many -EV decisions.......

nice score for 6 tables, thought you done that on 12 or something lol, im 8 tabling now, feel comfortable too, might get up to 12 for next week .....GL at 10nl, i hope you find it better than 5nl, deffo softer, looser etc...wont take you long to crush i dont think.

 

[Cafeman]

Not bad 5nl session tonight, Milestone hands brings out the fish for sure

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lol sample, but I gotta say, the lines look good from here. Keep it going man!

 

[micromachine]

yeah so it depends on villian and if he will stack off...just seemed to me that with pots not being that high in pot odds we would never be getting the right odds to call any of them...coz they are all like 2/1, 3/1...and if you are on a 4 outer to a gutshot then you cant really do anything when going with the rule of 2...sort of limits all your draws....but yeah, im assuming implied odds would be taken into account...deffo hard to throw away a flush draw especially if the odds are 1 or 2 off making it right, and you dont know if villian will stack off if you hit....hmmm, guess it just depends and we need to go with instinct without making too many -EV decisions.......

Yeah you rarely get good enough pot-odds to chase straight or flush draws, these I think would be the reasons you might:

- fish betting far too small
- several players in the pot

And you only really get the implied odds if villain is maniac who will carry on betting hard even if possible flush comes. Most of the TAGs and nits will shut down and fold their TPTK type hands when possible flushes come in and you start ramping up the aggression. Straights are much less obvious than flushes, especially when you have a one- or two-gapper hand so you can get better implied odds there.

I raise my flush draws as a semi-bluff quite a bit, it's often better than calling. You usually have quite a bit of fold equity because villains are mostly cbetting air anyway and also raising sets in common when there are 2 cards to a flush on the flop. If they call you still have good pot equity, and I will often keep firing, especially if I pick up a gutshot or pair on the turn or if I have to nut FD as the aces may still be outs. Seems like way too many beginner players are concerned with working out whether they have the right odds to call and don't even consider to option of raising.

nice score for 6 tables, thought you done that on 12 or something lol, im 8 tabling now, feel comfortable too, might get up to 12 for next week

Honestly, I would stick to 8, or even 6. You've only just started multi-tabling so I wouldn't recommend playing more than 6 for now.

GL at 10nl, i hope you find it better than 5nl, deffo softer, looser etc...wont take you long to crush i dont think.

Thanks man, yeah hoping to crush it this time. Not sure it's gonna be softer though, 5nl was ridic soft last night How's your game atm?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

 

[AlfieAA]

Yeah you rarely get good enough pot-odds to chase straight or flush draws, these I think would be the reasons you might:

- fish betting far too small
- several players in the pot

And you only really get the implied odds if villain is maniac who will carry on betting hard even if possible flush comes. Most of the TAGs and nits will shut down and fold their TPTK type hands when possible flushes come in and you start ramping up the aggression. Straights are much less obvious than flushes, especially when you have a one- or two-gapper hand so you can get better implied odds there.

I raise my flush draws as a semi-bluff quite a bit, it's often better than calling. You usually have quite a bit of fold equity because villains are mostly cbetting air anyway and also raising sets in common when there are 2 cards to a flush on the flop. If they call you still have good pot equity, and I will often keep firing, especially if I pick up a gutshot or pair on the turn or if I have to nut FD as the aces may still be outs. Seems like way too many beginner players are concerned with working out whether they have the right odds to call and don't even consider to option of raising.



Honestly, I would stick to 8, or even 6. You've only just started multi-tabling so I wouldn't recommend playing more than 6 for now.



Thanks man, yeah hoping to crush it this time. Not sure it's gonna be softer though, 5nl was ridic soft last night How's your game atm?

thanks micro, nice explanation of things, and yeah it never striked me to raise my draws against a cbet..thats a good one, will deffo use that ....and all the other stuff you said made sense too, nice one.....

yeah i was playing 5 tables of 6max and did ok, but i started getting fancy with thin value bets and all that jazz and decided it was not the way to beat 2nl...so ive gone back to playing ABC on 8 tables FR and im finding it very easy, coz ive done enough work on 1 table for a long time to get a good idea at that level, so its just instinct now and i managed 8 tables no bother....didnt even need to work it up to that, 4/5 tables the first day, 8 tables on day 3 haha...dont think i could 8 table 6max yet though, especially with playing more marginal hands etc...abit different even at 2nl, cant get away with playing 12/9 there like what you can do on FR...not that i play that low, prob about 22/18 or something, but it depends on the table and my stack....but yeah, im crushing it in the 3k hands so far in the last 3 days...doing 1k hands a day now, gonna grind...spent enough time learning the game on 1 table and pissing about......time to move up the levels

yeah 10nl might not be softer, but deffo looser i would have thought, maybe 5nl has got a stigma of being a nitfest i dunno lol...but good luck with it, start posting in your thread again man, and dominate

 

[Logan2]

Not bad 5nl session tonight, Milestone hands brings out the fish for sure

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Milestone hands are the best hook to bring fishies back.

Last 2 days

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Solo vid. Correct my spewwww!!!