*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

[Blobweird123]

You don't know how much i need to hear this advice. Cause i do tend to go a bit bananas now and then but Blob, don't you ever make adjustments to your standard lines in particular hands just because you felt that the situation is right or the spot is right?


These hands are definitely not the lines i follow every time but are the exception. Am i the only one who does this kinda stuff?

Sure I take unconventional lines. But I don't tend to overshove like 15th nuts on the river because its a simple matter of folding out worse and getting called by better almost always. I'd rather just go for a standard vbet. Again the 22 hand is fine, because we CAN get looked up by worse, even from thinking opponents, but hands like 89s there we just don't get called enough by hands we beat, so 85% of the time we get folds from worse, 10% of the time we get called by better, and 5% of the time we get lucky.

Edit: to your last post, well done thus far and don't stop posting awkward spots. Don't think I'm being a dick or anything, just being blunt with my opinions (which may be wrong for all I know). So keep posting and we'll all keep trying to provide solid critz!

 

[DrazaFFT]

I wanna make an argument that Sure, we have a solid methodology when playing certain hands. But if we believe that 2NL players WILL and DO call with much worse very so often, then doesn't that fact alone allow us to follow unconventional plays here and there if we feel like we can make a bit more money although the line might be a bit risky?

I kinda followed the similar logic, specially when i played on PKR, for example preflop if i have some reasons to believe that someone will call my aipf ill ship in, most of the times i do get called, on later streets too, sometime it works, sometime dont... but lately im getting convinced that i lose value if i keep playing that way and probably wont work higher

 

[Blobweird123]

I kinda followed the similar logic, specially when i played on PKR, for example preflop if i have some reasons to believe that someone will call my aipf ill ship in, most of the times i do get called, on later streets too, sometime it works, sometime dont... but lately im getting convinced that i lose value if i keep playing that way and probably wont work higher

This is mostly what I was getting at Vin. We do prolly lose more value than we gain in these spots because of what I said already about mostly getting folds from worse/calls from better but more importantly that we should always work on our A game for higher limits for when we get there. You are better than 2nl, that much is obvious. So start preparing your game to make the move up!

 

[vinylspiros]

This is mostly what I was getting at Vin. We do prolly lose more value than we gain in these spots because of what I said already about mostly getting folds from worse/calls from better but more importantly that we should always work on our A game for higher limits for when we get there. You are better than 2nl, that much is obvious. So start preparing your game to make the move up!

Damn Blob, it's sure great that your posting here. Lot's of good stuff and important things your saying. Definitely get where your coming from and any criticism is always happily accepted and taken into account. Im just waiting for the roll to hit 90+ and im gonna start shot taking at 5NL so that i can move out of the basement.


I really don't give a rats ass about the money. The motivation is to get good. And by getting good, then i can start thinking about digits. Been playing poker for a few years but only in the past 6 months have all the pieces kind of stuck together. No longer looking at the tree but the forest as far as gameplay is concerned which is a good start.

Thnks again.

 

[Logan2]

Grats Viny, looking good so far.

About the overshoving rivers, i face two hands today on 5nl where have to decide best way to extract too on river, i overshove one and min-value bet the other, but there is always the little question on your head about the best bet size that villain is calling with worst, but is always hard to get the rigth answer.

 

[vinylspiros]

Was running so hot today (probably cause its friday and the fish are endless ), that i kind of widened my 3betting range to complete trash in this hand. This fish has stacked me a few times and is running something like 45/33/10 etc etc

Got my payback with a dose of his own medicine. and yea, i know fold pre. but the sense of "kiss my ass you fish" that i got from this hand was priceless. Notice how aggrofish decides to flat his monster pre in order to get tricky. They dont get any worse than this really. If he had only min raised, he would saved himself his half a buy in.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Button ($1.58)
SB ($3.03)
Hero (BB) ($2.01)
UTG ($1.01)
MP ($1.01)
CO ($2.81)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 6

UTG calls $0.02, 3 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero raises to $0.08, UTG calls $0.06, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.18) 4

, K

, K

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.18, UTG calls $0.18

Turn: ($0.54) 3

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

River: ($0.70) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.12, Hero raises to $1.06, UTG calls $0.55 (All-In)

Total pot: $2.04 | Rake: $0.10

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had J

, 6

(flush, King high).
UTG had A

, K

(three of a kind, Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $1.94

In all honesty, i was surprised he didnt show up with nines or smthng.

 

[vinylspiros]

Ok this hand is versus the EXACT SAME GUY, in the hand posted above. Unbelievable. Limps a monster again!!!!


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

SB ($2.83)
Hero (BB) ($2.99)
UTG ($1.71)
MP ($12.11)
CO ($1.50)
Button ($6.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3

, K

UTG calls $0.02, 2 folds, Button calls $0.02, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.07) K

, 3

, 4

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.07, UTG calls $0.07, 1 fold

Turn: ($0.21) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $0.02, UTG calls $0.02

River: ($0.25) Q

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.88 (All-In), UTG calls $1.60 (All-In) (now THATS what i call max value)

Total pot: $3.45 | Rake: $0.17

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 3

, K

(full house, threes over Kings).
UTG had A

, A

(two pair, Aces and threes).
Outcome: Hero won $3.28

 

[vinylspiros]

Running crazy hot today. Up almost 8 buy ins in like 1k hands which is pretty sick. Check this out.



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($1.76)
CO ($2.30)
Button ($2.27)
SB ($1.50)
Hero (BB) ($2.98)
UTG ($1.79)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, K

1 fold, MP raises to $0.08, CO calls $0.08, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.06

Flop: ($0.25) Q

, 9

, 6

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.17, CO calls $0.17, Hero calls $0.17

Turn: ($0.76) 10

(3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $0.53, Hero raises to $2.73 (All-In), 1 fold, CO calls $1.52 (All-In)

River: ($4.86) 10

(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $4.86 | Rake: $0.24

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had J

, K

(straight flush, King high).
CO had 6

, 6

(full house, sixes over tens).
Outcome: Hero won $4.62

 

[LD1977]

I am not sure this is good. You can just call the turn and hope MP joins the fun and hopefully hits something on the river. Then lead river and no flush/set/2P will fold anyway.

 

[Logan2]

Viny move up right away to 10-25nl before heater over.

Also, in before 20bi downswing

 

[vinylspiros]

I am not sure this is good. You can just call the turn and hope MP joins the fun and hopefully hits something on the river. Then lead river and no flush/set/2P will fold anyway.

I just didnt want an ace or another diamond to hit the river and kill my action so thought that if this guy is betting 53 cents on the turn,that he might be willing to get it in, so i thought lemme shove here and get what i can. sure calling turn would be nice, in order to bring MP along but i thought since he looks like he likes his hand let me make at least one of the two call this shove.

Viny move up right away to 10-25nl before heater over.

Also, in before 20bi downswing

If i was playing higher, then a 20 BI downswing would be on its way but the players at 2NL are so bad that ,i really don't see it coming anytime soon.




For what it's worth, here is my current graph. Will be switching to 5NL as soon as i hit 90$. Probably in a few days or so.

Just for the record, this is the first time in my life that i can say that i have beaten a limit over a large sample and it really is motivating.😀

This is my graph so far this month at strictly 2NL. BANKROLL 75$ started with literally 4 $ on the 5th of January. wish me luck man. Hope i can continue to make it rain at 5NL.( to be honest, i think that if i follow the same strategy at 5NL, it will still be profitbale)





And this is my daily progress for the past ten days. e Almost every single session has been a winning one .

 

[long_bong]

hey vinyl, im starting a $100.00 deposit into $2200.00 bankroll challenge on fulltilt poker. well $89.50 after the exchange. gonna start the thread tomorrow make sure to follow along 🙂 GLGL

 

[vinylspiros]

hey vinyl, im starting a $100.00 deposit into $2200.00 bankroll challenge on fulltilt poker. well $89.50 after the exchange. gonna start the thread tomorrow make sure to follow along 🙂 GLGL

Will do bro. 🙂

 

[billy198702]

Gl keep they poets comming

 

[vinylspiros]

So yea, after turning the 4$ into 85$ playing 2NL, i decided its about time to start high rolling.

5NL here i come. Put in like 1k hands or so and at the beginning, i was beginning to feel a bit worried cause right off the bat ,i was on a 6 buy-in downswing . Managed to keep cool and then go on a 7 buy -in upswing and am basically breakeven.

Going to be posting some spots. truth be told ,i immediately noticed that the level at 5NL is just a tiny bit better than 2NL but i need to get some volume in it to see how it goes.


May the force be with me.🙂

 

[vinylspiros]

This is probably the strangest hand in my session so far. don't know if i overplayed it. I don't think i played it that bad TBH, any input would be appreciated. was in TOTAL SHOCK when he turned over his cards.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

UTG ($1.80)
MP ($8.79)
CO ($7.47)
Button ($1.78)
SB ($3.13)
Hero (BB) ($5.15)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10

, 5

UTG calls $0.05, MP calls $0.05, 3 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.17) 10

, 2

, 5

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.13, UTG calls $0.13, MP calls $0.13

Turn: ($0.56) 6

(3 players)
Hero bets $0.56, 1 fold, MP raises to $2.24, Hero raises to $4.40, MP raises to $6.56, Hero calls $0.57 (All-In) (is anyone playing this any differently and if so ,what ranges would we put him on when he reraises the turn)? cause i really had no idea where he was at. Thought he might have an overpair or maybe worse two pairs like 56 or smthng.set of sixes not really because he called the flop raise which was pretty large in a multiway pot.

River: ($10.50) Q

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $10.50 | Rake: $0.52

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 10

, 5

(two pair, tens and fives).
MP had 4

, 3

(straight, six high).
Outcome: MP won $9.98

 

[long_bong]

I expected that spoiler 34 😛

 

[long_bong]

So yea, after turning the 4$ into 85$ playing 2NL, i decided its about time to start high rolling.

5NL here i come. Put in like 1k hands or so and at the beginning, i was beginning to feel a bit worried cause right off the bat ,i was on a 6 buy-in downswing . Managed to keep cool and then go on a 7 buy -in upswing and am basically breakeven.

Going to be posting some spots. truth be told ,i immediately noticed that the level at 5NL is just a tiny bit better than 2NL but i need to get some volume in it to see how it goes.


May the force be with me.🙂

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waita stay composed 😛

 

[LD1977]

Yup, I got it in one too.

 

[vinylspiros]

Villain is unknown with not even a full buy in so i assume he's a fish.

Snap shoves flop so fast that i put him on AK cause i figured if he really had some sort of hand, he would not have played it this poorly.

I time banked this one but got rewarded,thankfully.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($3.76)
MP ($3.56)
CO ($5.53)
Button ($17.81)
Hero (SB) ($5)
BB ($3.57)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6

, 6

1 fold, MP raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Button calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.08, BB raises to $0.55, MP calls $0.45, Button calls $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

Flop: ($2.20) 9

, 8

, 9

(4 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.02 (All-In), 2 folds, Hero calls $3.02

Turn: ($8.24) 7

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($8.24) 6

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.24 | Rake: $0.41

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had 6

, 6

(full house, sixes over nines).
BB had J

, 6

(two pair, nines and sixes).
Outcome: Hero won $7.83

 

[vinylspiros]

Villain running 57/33/15


get ready to laugh.😀😀😀😀😀😀


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (BB) ($6.45)
UTG ($2.65)
MP ($20.43)
CO ($5.14)
Button ($24.67)
SB ($2.77)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, Q

4 folds, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, SB raises to $0.55, Hero calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) K

, 7

, A

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.10) 4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.10) 10

(2 players)
SB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $5.90 (All-In), SB calls $1.57 (All-In)

Total pot: $5.54 | Rake: $0.27

Results below:

Spoiler

SB had A

, A

(three of a kind, Aces).
Hero had J

, Q

(straight, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $5.27

 

[vinylspiros]

Ok so day 1 of 5NL is a wrap. managed to put in around 3 k hands.


started off -6 buy ins and then went on a +14 buy in swing and closed the day with 40$ profit.

Not bad for the first day. Really optimistic now. Bankroll at 125 ish. Looking good.😀😀😀

 

[duggs]

66, fold flop imo. if he is nuts we can get him later.

QJ, flat pre. we have someone super aggro, why are we 3betting and reopening the action when we have position on him and he is going to make so many mistakes post

rest of the hand looks fine.

 

[long_bong]

Here is the link to my thread challenge.

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/general-poker-13/callm3mayb3s-fulltiltpoker-2-2k-challenge-240402/

 

[vinylspiros]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($5.16)
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($15.90)
MP ($4.57)
CO ($1.80)
Button ($7.40)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6

, 6

4 folds, SB calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.15, SB calls $0.10

Flop: ($0.30) 4

, 10

, K

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.30) 6

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.30, SB calls $0.30

River: ($0.90) 10

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.55 (All-In), SB calls $4.55:shot:

Total pot: $10 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:

Spoiler

SB had 10

, J

(three of a kind, tens).
Hero had 6

, 6

(full house, sixes over tens).
Outcome: Hero won $9.50