micromachine said:^^ lol @ MP (in the 33 hand)
duggs said:Dude everywhere is soft. I've seen worse pretty frequently at 25nl etc
duggs said:Like 5 buck is pretty meaningless amount of money so if people want to punt 5 buck an hour for fun, it's not the worst vice in the world
redwards92 said:89s
Not sure it is a good idea to flat 89s vs a 30 BB stack. I think he has more flush combos then 6x in his range so turn card isn't all that bad.
you right. hadnt noticed how short he was while in game. And i guess a Fd is much more likely. Nevertheless when boards get this coordinated, i never like them, even if villains range doesnt seem to have connected very often.
63
umm probably fold pre but as played I bet smaller on the river because it is pretty hard to bet our hand for value on that board.
Good point.
AK
I probably just 4b ship vs a shortstack.
That works too.
gl man keep it up
duggs said:Dude show me some maths or logic to defend those flatting ranges you havw


yep, I mean people do some stupid shit even above NL400 but.... There is always a reason and we make the most off other players mistakes.duggs said:Not really, stakes get tougher as you move up
vinylspiros said:I assume your talking about the 63 suited or the 89 suited.
Here's the thing. Im running 19/13. Im never flatting these type of hands unless im running crazy hot or im in position. I dont find it to be a bad idea to flat specualtive hands here and there IN POSITION versus someones 3x raise pre. ESP if they are opening relatively tight which helps me feel more confident that i am the only one who probably hit the particular board, when i hit it.
If i hit the board strong, i will continue playing the hand In position.
If i miss i autofold. Not going to be investing huge amounts with air or medium pair or whatever with absolutely no draws.
but when i DO hit, i make them pay. and they DO pay.
So over a large hand sample, it doesnt seem to be that bad of an idea.
If you have any suggestions though, im all ears.
What exactly are you referring to though?
EDIT: i have absolutely no math when playing. My math is as bad as it gets.
long_bong said:yep, I mean people do some stupid shit even above NL400 but.... There is always a reason and we make the most off other players mistakes.
duggs said:doesn't really fly man, do it all the time if its profitable don't do it if it isn't, it can't be profitable to do some of the time (and you know full well they are losing calls) looking into the maths on how well 63s fares v an utg range and which flops its ahead on, and how often those flops happen.
duggs said:think about how many better hands you could flat. and think about what we want to do fundamentally v a too tight range?