Line check on this board with this hand?
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CO ($5.90)
Button ($17.16)
SB ($6.14)
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($10.16)
MP ($5)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
, 8
4 folds, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.60) 8
, 10
, J
(2 players)
SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.58, SB calls $0.53
Turn: ($1.76) Q
(2 players)
SB bets $0.05, Hero calls $0.05
River: ($1.86) 3
(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.87...... I have to bet here right?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/
CO ($5.90)
Button ($17.16)
SB ($6.14)
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($10.16)
MP ($5)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 8
4 folds, SB raises to $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, SB calls $0.20
Flop: ($0.60) 8
SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.58, SB calls $0.53
Turn: ($1.76) Q
SB bets $0.05, Hero calls $0.05
River: ($1.86) 3
SB checks, Hero bets $1.87...... I have to bet here right?
micromachine said:
Im betting because i dont believe he has a straight or a higher set. TPTK, 2 pairs are highly likely on this board and i think if i bet this big, it might look kind of bluffy. Seen these guys make calls with mid pair to this type of bet so i thought, if im going to bet lemmee get as much value as i can since i feel im ahead.
and in the small probability that he does have it(higher set),, i think i sometimes get better hands to fold as well?
Is this fold too tight?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com
Button ($8.49)
Hero (SB) ($5.02)
BB ($12.31)
UTG ($11.49)
MP ($1.15)
CO ($4.49)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
, J
3 folds, Button raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.45) J
, 10
, 7
(3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.10, Button raises to $0.40, Hero folds (weak)?
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com
Button ($8.49)
Hero (SB) ($5.02)
BB ($12.31)
UTG ($11.49)
MP ($1.15)
CO ($4.49)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
3 folds, Button raises to $0.15, Hero calls $0.13, BB calls $0.10
Flop: ($0.45) J
Hero checks, BB bets $0.10, Button raises to $0.40, Hero folds (weak)?
Jblocher1 said:
Because i flatted from the SB and dint want to Donk. was definitely going to be calling this flop if BB had checked and button just standard Cbet. thing is he goes over the top of the donk that min bets and i can't know if he has it or if he's just doing what you have to do when someone min donks pot on flop/
you see what i mean?
vinylspiros said:
For the record, the line button took is my default for ppl min-donking. I don't need much to do it either, even A high. I treat a min-donk as non-existent and proceed with my sizing (factored slightly bigger for donk though)
Blobweird123 said:
Exactly my point. Me too. It might even induce me to make a Cbet even if i wasn't planning to sometimes just cause it looks (and usually IS) so weak.
Problem here is its 3 way so i have to go even if i want to peel. too thin of a spot to continue in my opinion cause regardless of what comes on the turn.
THREAD UPDATE (for anyone who might even give a rats ass)🙂,
Yesterday i moved to 5NL and have since managed to get in like 6k hands.
Im crushing. Im seriously crushing. I get the feeling that its softer than 2NL. Roll is currently at 150$ after winning 60$ in like practically 24 hours.
Gonna be shot taking 10NL by next week when rolls at 200$. Easy Breezy..
Skies the limit for your boy vinyl who has upped his game thanks to all the info,tips, advice, you guys are spreading around the forum..
this is what i have so far. Ain't nothing wrong in being excited and posting your graph 25 times a day is there? ( except for being annoying 😛)
Yesterday i moved to 5NL and have since managed to get in like 6k hands.
Im crushing. Im seriously crushing. I get the feeling that its softer than 2NL. Roll is currently at 150$ after winning 60$ in like practically 24 hours.
Gonna be shot taking 10NL by next week when rolls at 200$. Easy Breezy..
Skies the limit for your boy vinyl who has upped his game thanks to all the info,tips, advice, you guys are spreading around the forum..
this is what i have so far. Ain't nothing wrong in being excited and posting your graph 25 times a day is there? ( except for being annoying 😛)
vinylspiros said:
Too thin? We have TPGK and only a couple combos beat us right now with tons of pair+draw/FD/GS hands that can take btn's line, plus some air too after the min donk. I'm never folding there, ever. I'm flatting and re-eval on turn. Brick turns, i'm still continuing, possibly even x/r depending on villains stats (ie. if he likes to call down with draws). But point is, I ain't folding TPGK to this kinda action otf. We're beat by TT/JJ (we block obv)/77/89/TJ (We block)/T7/J7. A lot of people will fold J7/T7 otb even, so those are discounted a bit. TJ/JJ are discounted a lot. So we're left with TT/77/89. And yet their range here includes tonssss of other hands.
The point I made with the mindonk/raise line was that BTN doesn't need much to take this line,therefore his range is considerably wider than a normal reraise otf. I think I actually agree with Blocher in that we should be donking this flop (more than a min obv) and go from there. Not the type of flop we want to check through all the way to the turn.
Oh and keep posting man, it's your thread! Also your VPIP/PFR/3b all seem a tad low. Something to think about and maybe sit down and look at your current range and what hands you could possibly open in X position that you aren't already and also what hands you can 3b more with IP or OOP as a bluff (ie. SB vs BTN). Only saying this because as you climb the limits, it'll help to have a wider range in spots that way your range can be a bit more merged to have some middle hands etc.
duggs said:
Sweat was awesome . Thanks alot duggs. Really solid cash game you got going on and thanks for sharing some insight. Available for sweats anytime you are. Going to be needing some help as i move up for sure.
Blobweird123 said:
^^^^ very true and something i've thought about many times. It's just that at the micro's im currently playing , the particular formula has served me well so don't wanna be changing it just yet. I took everyone's advice and kept the word SOLID in my mind the entire time.( solid does mean tight in a way) Obviously my ranges are pretty face up to someone who knows how to read stats well, so im definitely going to be widening up a bit as i move up. Might hit you up on some opening ranges when the time comes. Thnaks blob.
LD1977 said:
Started 5NL with a 6 buy in downswing and was really focused on maintaining my A-game. Tilt control is something i really have improved on. (especially since i used to be the example of a tilty/bad BRM player). Has made a huge difference. Thnks LD.
How's your grind going by the way? Good to see you posting man.🙂
DrazaFFT said:
tyty 🙂🙂
/Logan/ said:
Hey man, i guess im getting luckier than you. Doesnt matter if it takes 30k hands or 3 k hands. what matters is seeing any kind of positive results. Good luck LOGAN. Let's work our way out of the damn micros.
LD1977 said:
WELL DONE BRO. Well deserved as you have put alot of time and effort into the game. Hard work and perseverance apparently DO pay dividends.
If i had 2.5 K, id also be playing 25NL too, just to get a big enough sample size to know how im going. Looking forward to hearing how it goes for you.
GL
LD1977 said:
Why did you have to bring up the downswing word?😡😡😡
😛😛jokes aside, i pulled one of these off 2 weeks ago versus someone so i guess today is when it evened itself out in the short longrun.
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com
BB ($5.92)
UTG ($4.63)
MP ($7.18)
CO ($8.11)
Button ($4.40)
Hero (SB) ($5)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, MP raises to $1, Hero raises to $1.50, MP raises to $7.18 (All-In), Hero calls $3.50 (All-In)
Flop: ($10.05) 3
Turn: ($10.05) J
River: ($10.05) 9
Total pot: $10.05 | Rake: $0.50
Results below:
Hero had A
, A
(two pair, Aces and Jacks).
MP had A
, A
(flush, Ace high).
Outcome: MP won $9.55
MP had A
Outcome: MP won $9.55
But who cares about ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ when 50 hands later this happens !!!!!
best hand of 5nl so far ,loving it.
Didnt feel to comfortable shoving in this spot cause it really felt like set VS set VS monster FD but i thought, what the heck. No guts no glory right. 17$ pots at 5NL dont come around too often!
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com
BB ($14.85)
UTG ($2.81)
MP ($5)
CO ($5.12)
Hero (Button) ($6.26)
SB ($2.22)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 3
, 3
1 fold, MP raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.08, BB calls $0.05
Flop: ($0.40) 3
, 6
, A
(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.70, MP calls $1.30, Hero raises to $5.75, BB raises to $9.80, MP calls $3.20 (All-In), Hero calls $0.41 (All-In)
Turn: ($17.62) 4
(3 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($17.62) 9
(3 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $17.62 | Rake: $0.88
Results below:
best hand of 5nl so far ,loving it.
Didnt feel to comfortable shoving in this spot cause it really felt like set VS set VS monster FD but i thought, what the heck. No guts no glory right. 17$ pots at 5NL dont come around too often!
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com
BB ($14.85)
UTG ($2.81)
MP ($5)
CO ($5.12)
Hero (Button) ($6.26)
SB ($2.22)
Preflop: Hero is Button with 3
1 fold, MP raises to $0.10, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.10, SB calls $0.08, BB calls $0.05
Flop: ($0.40) 3
SB checks, BB checks, MP bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 1 fold, BB raises to $1.70, MP calls $1.30, Hero raises to $5.75, BB raises to $9.80, MP calls $3.20 (All-In), Hero calls $0.41 (All-In)
Turn: ($17.62) 4
River: ($17.62) 9
Total pot: $17.62 | Rake: $0.88
Results below:
Hero had 3
, 3
(flush, Ace high).
BB had 6
, A
(two pair, Aces and sixes).
MP had 5
, A
(one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $16.74
BB had 6
MP had 5
Outcome: Hero won $16.74
Ok this just happened the second i finished posting the hand above. My graph looks like the Apollo 13 . It's gotta be rigged right? ......IN MY FAVOR😛😛😛😛😛😛
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Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($5.54)
MP ($6.75)
CO ($5.15)
Button ($1.60)
SB ($2.40)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K
, K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, CO calls $0.42
Flop: ($1.26) K
, 2
, 10
(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.73, CO raises to $4.53 (All-In), Hero calls $2.65 (All-In)
Turn: ($10.02) 5
(2 players, 2 all-in)
River: ($10.02) A
(2 players, 2 all-in)
Total pot: $10.02 | Rake: $0.50
Results below:
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/
Hero (BB) ($5)
UTG ($5.54)
MP ($6.75)
CO ($5.15)
Button ($1.60)
SB ($2.40)
Preflop: Hero is BB with K
2 folds, CO raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.62, CO calls $0.42
Flop: ($1.26) K
Hero checks, CO bets $0.30, Hero raises to $1.73, CO raises to $4.53 (All-In), Hero calls $2.65 (All-In)
Turn: ($10.02) 5
River: ($10.02) A
Total pot: $10.02 | Rake: $0.50
Results below:
Hero had K
, K
(three of a kind, Kings).
CO had 2
, 2
(three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: Hero won $9.52
CO had 2
Outcome: Hero won $9.52