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JThh/snap raising flop

99/ im unsure about leading flop, river looks thin but i pro bet/fold smaller.
 
Preflop is spewy squeeze or fold and since UTG is only 80bb's deep it's a fold.
Edit:7Ts hand
AT hand looks played well
 
duggs said:
JThh/snap raising flop

99/ im unsure about leading flop, river looks thin but i pro bet/fold smaller.



^^^ why though? We dont wanna fold out his bluffs here do we? I mean, do we want to be raising to see how serious he is/inflate pot?
 
Challenge update:



Today was day 1 of 10NL. Started with like 190$ and wanted the transition to begin smoothly. Didnt want to go on a downswing and have to go back to grinding 5NL which IMO is a joke. Anyways, managed to win 5 buy ins and am gonna be calling it a day.

Roll is at like 240$ so im now pretty confident i have enough to play 10NL properly and not kinda under-rolled.


I'm trying to widen up my range a bit and my stats are looking kinda crappy (gap between VPIP and PFR is way too wide ). also my agression is non-existent.

Don't feel as though im playing passively, its just that im kind of accomodating their need to put money into the pot with worse hands so im kinda check calling more than i usually do . At the end of the day, i guess its working but want to focus on playing well so that i can win consistently.

Also players here seem to be worse than 5NL. Seems like they are a bit over aggro without really knowing what they are doing. Could be that its the weekend. Let's see how this goes.



this is the 10NL i have so far. (todays hands) . Wish me luck.

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and my overall monthly graph for all 2,5 and 10NL. Such a beauty. Hope i can keep this going. ( there are 40$ unaccounted for cause i have 240$ and started the challenge with 4$) Guess they got lost when my HM2 crashed this morning) oh well.


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AT river is a tad thin, but seeing as he's full stacked its prolly fine. I might actually go smaller to around 2.40 but can't really see much wrong if anything at all.

7T prob just bet 1/2 for value on turn vs TP+draw hands and such.

KQhh I think is just bad all around, which im sure you already figured. Depending on MP stats, I just fold pre a lot tbh, hate flatting OOP and will pretty much never 4b. Flop there is absolutely no solid 'why' to min donking at all, and not much reasonable 'why' to 3betting. Once we do 3bet and he flats, i'm firing turn though. Really don't know why you complicated the hell out of this hand?
 
vinylspiros said:
Challenge update:



Today was day 1 of 10NL. Started with like 190$ and wanted the transition to begin smoothly. Didnt want to go on a downswing and have to go back to grinding 5NL which IMO is a joke. Anyways, managed to win 5 buy ins and am gonna be calling it a day.

Roll is at like 240$ so im now pretty confident i have enough to play 10NL properly and not kinda under-rolled.


I'm trying to widen up my range a bit and my stats are looking kinda crappy (gap between VPIP and PFR is way too wide ). also my agression is non-existent.

Don't feel as though im playing passively, its just that im kind of accomodating their need to put money into the pot with worse hands so im kinda check calling more than i usually do . At the end of the day, i guess its working but want to focus on playing well so that i can win consistently.

Also players here seem to be worse than 5NL. Seems like they are a bit over aggro without really knowing what they are doing. Could be that its the weekend. Let's see how this goes.



this is the 10NL i have so far. (todays hands) . Wish me luck.

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Fold or 3b more/stop flatting a ton.

Edit: just looked, 23/16 isnt terrible so you only need to make a couple tiny adjustments IMO. And another edit. Get a sample first. Because you could've played just fine. Some sessions will go that way and could still be played perfectly.
 
Blobweird123 said:
AT river is a tad thin, but seeing as he's full stacked its prolly fine. I might actually go smaller to around 2.40 but can't really see much wrong if anything at all.

7T prob just bet 1/2 for value on turn vs TP+draw hands and such.

KQhh I think is just bad all around, which im sure you already figured. Depending on MP stats, I just fold pre a lot tbh, hate flatting OOP and will pretty much never 4b. Flop there is absolutely no solid 'why' to min donking at all, and not much reasonable 'why' to 3betting. Once we do 3bet and he flats, i'm firing turn though. Really don't know why you complicated the hell out of this hand?
Are you over limping the 7Ts hand preflop?
 
JOEBOB69 said:
Are you over limping the 7Ts hand preflop?

You mean over calling ofc. But Idk, we're getting good odds, but our hand sucks and doesn't hit many flops well enough. Like this board is a dreammmm for this hand whereas most boards we give up, so I fold pre here almost always unless 2+ fish OOP before me or somethin like that.
 
Blobweird123 said:
AT river is a tad thin, but seeing as he's full stacked its prolly fine. I might actually go smaller to around 2.40 but can't really see much wrong if anything at all. ROGER THAT

7T prob just bet 1/2 for value on turn vs TP+draw hands and such. I DID OVERPLAY IT A BIT,YEA (but draw was so strong it felt right. Generally speaking its risky business and i try to avoid insane variance )

KQhh I think is just bad all around, which im sure you already figured. Depending on MP stats, I just fold pre a lot tbh, hate flatting OOP and will pretty much never 4b. Flop there is absolutely no solid 'why' to min donking at all, and not much reasonable 'why' to 3betting. Once we do 3bet and he flats, i'm firing turn though. Really don't know why you complicated the hell out of this hand?

I have no idea what the hell i was doing in that hand. His sizing seemed weak and i kinda went crazy for no reason. thankfully jezus stepped in and saved my sorry ass.😛


Blobweird123 said:
Fold or 3b more/stop flatting a ton. WILL DO

Edit: just looked, 23/16 isnt terrible so you only need to make a couple tiny adjustments IMO. And another edit. Get a sample first. Because you could've played just fine. Some sessions will go that way and could still be played perfectly.

Yea Blob thanks alot for advice man. Will see how it goes.

JOEBOB69 said:
Are you over limping the 7Ts hand preflop?



Yea i was kinda priced in and my hand wasn't THAT bad to see a flop i guess + its heavily disguised if i hit some kinda crazy straight or flop a boat or smthng.lol.( esp on da button)
 
"I DID OVERPLAY IT A BIT,YEA (but draw was so strong it felt right. Generally speaking its risky business and i try to avoid insane variance )"

Our draw really isn't all that strong tbh. We have bottom end of straight draw so when J comes, Qx is ahead. We could already be pretty dead to QJ. Our FD isn't the nuts and we can never say that they never have a higher FD. So overall I don't see our draw being that strong here. I'm actually bet folding here a lot.
 
ATo - i cant say that i would play it any different, wp imho
T7c - you would be 54% fav if you had oesd&fd on flop with two cards to come, on a turn you are roughly 30% (i dont know if the rule of two also subtract 1% for every out over 9 or not), now i hit spoiler and all i can say i WTF is worng with BB :banghead: wait right, they were suited...😀
KQh - weird 😀 what was your intention with min donk flop and 3-bet? Fold? Rest of it is fine if you have note or info that he is a fish, which probably you do have because i dont see you playing like that vs unknown
88 - raise flop maybe as a semi bluff? beside that wp
77 - my inner donk would shove flop, also wp, nh
 
Blobweird123 said:
"I DID OVERPLAY IT A BIT,YEA (but draw was so strong it felt right. Generally speaking its risky business and i try to avoid insane variance )"

Our draw really isn't all that strong tbh. We have bottom end of straight draw so when J comes, Qx is ahead. We could already be pretty dead to QJ. Our FD isn't the nuts and we can never say that they never have a higher FD. So overall I don't see our draw being that strong here. I'm actually bet folding here a lot.


Looking at it again, your absolutely right. Lemmme rephrase then: " In the heat of the moment while 4 tabling Rush, while glimpsing at that table , the draw looked better than it actually was. 😛"

Thanks blob though. your right. Definitely overplayed that hand.
 
DrazaFFT said:
ATo - i cant say that i would play it any different, wp imho
T7c - you would be 54% fav if you had oesd&fd on flop with two cards to come, on a turn you are roughly 30% (i dont know if the rule of two also subtract 1% for every out over 9 or not), now i hit spoiler and all i can say i WTF is worng with BB :banghead: wait right, they were suited...😀
KQh - weird 😀 what was your intention with min donk flop and 3-bet? Fold? when i minbet flop,i wanted to see a cheap turn but the play absolutely stinks. I messed that up bigtime.(result is irrelevant)Rest of it is fine if you have note or info that he is a fish, which probably you do have because i dont see you playing like that vs unknown
88 - raise flop maybe as a semi bluff? beside that wp I have a bluff catcher and his sizing is a dead giveaway. that and the fact that his line makes ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE WHATSOEVER. Every street is another card and he just keeps barreling. If i raise, im folding out his bluff's (therefor losing value) and will only get called by better. Why not just play it the right way and either call or fold.(those are basically the only options he is giving me according to how the hand played out. Don't know if anyone's raising that. Might be right. Im not sure though)
77 - my inner donk would shove flop, also wp, nh


thnks bro. thnaks for posting and for your opinion. much appreciated.
 
Great chart 10nl Vinyl, I'm really impressed with the way you have improved over the last few weeks. Keep it going
 
Figaroo2 said:
Great chart 10nl Vinyl, I'm really impressed with the way you have improved over the last few weeks. Keep it going


Thnks man.Yea i have noticed a huge improvement myself. And the funny thing is I think tilt control is what has made the difference. that and having all these great and already winning cash game players giving me advice on how to get good.

Lets see how 10NL goes man. Maybe i can go through it in like 1 week if im lucky. 😛😛😛 that...........OR GO BUSTO.🙂
 
vinylspiros said:
^^^ why though? We dont wanna fold out his bluffs here do we? I mean, do we want to be raising to see how serious he is/inflate pot?

on an AKQ board? what bluffs to they have multiway, raise/bet/bet and get paid by Ax AK/AQ/KQ and sets.
 
duggs said:
on an AKQ board? what bluffs to they have multiway, raise/bet/bet and get paid by Ax AK/AQ/KQ and sets.

And also the rare JT that we beat sometimes when we flush up. But we discussed this hand already didn't we?
 
duggs said:
ya actually i think we did.


sorry man, i was answering a wrong hand when i asked why raise this flop.


Forget about it, my bad man.😱
 
love seeing that graph climb Keep it up V >

Can you let me know when we switched from pokerstars to fulltilt and why? 🙂

Just curious
 
A couple of interesting hands. Just warming up with these amateurs.😛

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Villains stats- 33/20/2 By the way, DO WE LIKE THIS LINE? im putting him on a Tx .

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($10.59)
UTG ($2.60)
MP ($11.40)
CO ($7.35)
Button ($11.44)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J
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, J
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UTG raises to $0.30, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($1.20) 3
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, 4
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, 10
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(4 players)
Hero bets $0.92, BB calls $0.92, 2 folds

Turn: ($3.04) K
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75( his .75 cents here screams: "why did that king just hit") If he checked id be more worried.

River: ($4.54) K
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, BB calls $1.90 ( at this point, im 100% sure he thinks his 10 is good and will check behind so i need to get paid, don't think i could have gone bigger though)

Total pot: $8.34 | Rake: $0.41

Results below:
Hero had J
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, J
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(two pair, Kings and Jacks).
BB had 9
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, 9
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(two pair, Kings and nines).
Outcome: Hero won $7.93



villains stats 18 /14/2.8 3.5% 3bet river weak check?


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (SB) ($10.15)
BB ($5.32)
UTG ($20.04)
MP ($22.63)
CO ($33.81)
Button ($12.23)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2
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, 2
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1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) 4
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, 5
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, 6
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $0.10, Hero calls $0.10

Turn: ($0.90) 3
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(2 players)
Hero bets $0.69, MP calls $0.69

River: ($2.28) Q
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(2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

Total pot: $2.28 | Rake: $0.11

Results below:
Hero had 2
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, 2
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(straight, six high).
MP had 9
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, 9
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(one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero won $2.17




OH and before i forget ,this also happend.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($10)
MP ($12.22)
CO ($37.11)
Hero (Button) ($11.27)
SB ($6.39)
BB ($3.99)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9
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, 9
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3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.80, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.65) Q
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, 6
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, 4
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(2 players)
BB bets $0.99, Hero raises to $4.65, BB calls $2.20 (All-In) ( Guy obviously sucks. Is sitting at the table with half a buy in . Along with the fact that i have NO hands on him. ) Dont think this shove is horribad taking into account that most of the time they don't have anything except for an overplayed AK or whatever...Im easily getting it in on this board versus someone who is "probably" a weak player for less than half a stack.right?

Turn: ($8.03) K
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(2 players, 1 all-in) <------------- ( life sucks)

River: ($8.03) A
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $8.03 | Rake: $0.40

Results below:
Hero had 9
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, 9
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(one pair, nines).
BB had 9
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, K
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(one pair, Kings).
Outcome: BB won $7.63
 
JJ 3bet pre v those stats, rest looks good tho

22 im betting river.

99 you are making huge assumptions, don't like the shove at all
 
DO i suck or can anyone relate to this?

Villains stats: 33/33/2 over 44 hands. (kinda unknown but is tending to be in the aggro category)

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($12.10)
Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($10)
UTG ($7.59)
MP ($13.79)
CO ($6.40)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8
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, 8
club.gif

UTG raises to $0.30, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.70) 7
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, 3
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, 8
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.55, UTG calls $1.15

Turn: ($3.80) 6
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(2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $2.20, Hero raises to $8.15 (All-In), UTG calls $3.54 (All-In) ( here im thinking: How many flushes does he have on this turn? Probably not as many as he would like, so i decide to go with it. Was in total shock when he turned over 9T taking into consideration what he called on the flop!!!!!!!! TOTAL STATION that i will be making alot of money on anytime i see him) Is this play bad on my behalf?

River: ($15.28) 2
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(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $15.28 | Rake: $0.76

Results below:
Hero had 8
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, 8
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(three of a kind, eights).
UTG had 10
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, 9
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(straight, ten high).
Outcome: UTG won $14.52
 
duggs said:
JJ 3bet pre v those stats, rest looks good tho

22 im betting river.

99 you are making huge assumptions, don't like the shove at all


Even against a shortie that is committed to all flops regardless of what he is holding due to being so short?

EDIt: your right about the assumptions part. Gotta keep myself together. thnks.
 
im prob just ripping 99 pre v a shorty tbh.

88 pre looks good
flop looks good
turn check???? why he has heaps of over pairs with a diamond, he also has smaller sets etc and some flushes/straights etc that we have good equity against.

turn jam is a bit optimistic but i think the turn checks is the action i hate the most
 
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