*****Vinyl's GonnaCrushDAmicros 6max thread******

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im betting river on AA hand,i like the flop and turn line, but when he checks back its pretty rare he has Jx, and if he doesn't have Jx then we beat all his range (AT/T9 won't make it past the flop)

44 seems fine by me, turn and river sizings could be a bit tidier, smaller on turn leaving a slightly bigger shove on river.
 
duggs said:
im betting river on AA hand,i like the flop and turn line, but when he checks back its pretty rare he has Jx, and if he doesn't have Jx then we beat all his range (AT/T9 won't make it past the flop)

44 seems fine by me, turn and river sizings could be a bit tidier, smaller on turn leaving a slightly bigger shove on river.
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thanks duggs. I just dont wanna be betting river and get raised and not know what hes repping. I preffer to take the check call line to get anything i can when he bluffs it. Im not willing to play a big pot anyways cause i dont like his flop call. His range is super jack heavy IMO.

take a look at this hand and question:

This might come off as bad but, i really don't think barreling is the best line on this turn in case we miss our flush and are left with a lone Ace on the river. So maybe checking is good for a little pot control? thoughts?




Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($10)
BB ($20.37)
UTG ($17.54)
MP ($10.95)
CO ($13.03)
Button ($3.34)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A
spade.gif
, 9
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2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, CO calls $0.30

Flop: ($0.90) J
spade.gif
, A
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, 4
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.69, CO calls $0.69

Turn: ($2.28) 5
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(2 players)
Hero ?



what do you think?
 
duggs said:
im betting river on AA hand,i like the flop and turn line, but when he checks back its pretty rare he has Jx, and if he doesn't have Jx then we beat all his range (AT/T9 won't make it past the flop)

44 seems fine by me, turn and river sizings could be a bit tidier, smaller on turn leaving a slightly bigger shove on river.
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what difference would this make?
 
i think we get more folds on the turn with the current sizing, and i feel like is we bet like 3.45 he is far more likely to just rip a draw or peel a weaker hand on the turn. also over betting turn so slightly doenst really serve much purpose with the SPR so low
 
b/f river with AA tho, not calling any raise ever. but we won't get raised barely ever.

A9s im betting turn, he limped, id be betting A9o here v that range swell. if he woke up with better is unlucky but i see JT peeling turn
 
duggs said:
i think we get more folds on the turn with the current sizing, and i feel like is we bet like 3.45 he is far more likely to just rip a draw or peel a weaker hand on the turn. also over betting turn so slightly doenst really serve much purpose with the SPR so low
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Right right. Yea i see ur point. Maybe even like 2.95 would be EVEN better. Just board kinda gut ugly and wanted to get it in as fast as i could. Guess i panicked.

duggs said:
b/f river with AA tho, not calling any raise ever. but we won't get raised barely ever.

A9s im betting turn, he limped, id be betting A9o here v that range swell. if he woke up with better is unlucky but i see JT peeling turn
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Right on, but how much do we bet this turn IYO?
 
vinylspiros said:
Right right. Yea i see ur point. Maybe even like 2.95 would be EVEN better. Just board kinda gut ugly and wanted to get it in as fast as i could. Guess i panicked.




Right on, but how much do we bet this turn IYO?
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Betting about 1.75 here to increase fold equity. We have a decent amount of equity still so im not entirely looking for folds, but if I can make AT/AQ fold then im happy. Plus we create smaller spr on river when we do bink so easier for villain to call off with weaker hands.
 
teach me your nitty ways V 😛

I cannot get over how you got away with folding KK in that 6 hander above. lol shiiiiit > Im not worthy Im not worthy 😛 nice fold.

The AA KK QQ hand. Least I think you folded. 2 players allin on river it says. im blazed right now though bare with me 😛


pm me your fulltilt screenname > ill hop into that rush pool with ya 😉
 
ahhh the nl10 games are juice 😛 >>>


*** FLOP *** [5d Ks Kd] (Total Pot: $0.90, 3 Players)
pickpoket5 checks
montecristo133 checks
CallM3Mayb3 has 15 seconds left to act
CallM3Mayb3 checks
*** TURN *** [5d Ks Kd] [Qh] (Total Pot: $0.90, 3 Players)
pickpoket5 checks
montecristo133 checks
CallM3Mayb3 checks
*** RIVER *** [5d Ks Kd Qh] [Th] (Total Pot: $0.90, 3 Players)
pickpoket5 checks
montecristo133 checks
CallM3Mayb3 bets $11.49, and is all in
pickpoket5 folds
montecristo133 calls $8.24, and is all in
Uncalled bet of $3.25 returned to CallM3Mayb3
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CallM3Mayb3 shows [Ts Tc] a full house, Tens full of Kings
montecristo133 mucks (AcJd)
CallM3Mayb3 wins the pot ($16.52) with a full house, Tens full of Kings
 
long_bong said:
:creep: :adore:
not in that spot in a NLgame pre flop with only a raise and 3 bet in for .60 lol
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😕 the fold was after a 4bet, then 5bet shove for almost 100bb after the 5better had min 3bet. Especially in rush IMO one of the two gots to have AA.

Can't say I let go KK too often preflop but think given that play I could certainly do so, if only against one other vs unknowns I'd have to ship it and deal with the cooler if they turned AA, but a nice diciplined fold IMO
 
AWKWARD RIVER SPOT😎

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

CO ($16.16)
Button ($7.19)
Hero (SB) ($11.27)
BB ($7.31)
UTG ($4.41)
MP ($11.03)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
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, J
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3 folds, Button calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) K
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, 2
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, 9
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.70) 10
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(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.05, BB calls $1.25

River: ($5.80) 3
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero ? ( I So wanna Jam here, but the good player in me is telling me not to. what do you think is best play here?), because im kinda not sure if i should bet/fold-----Jam, or check/call>fold?


EDIT: villain is unknown
 
jam imo, b/f seems silly and c/c is the worst option.

why not cbet on flop?
 
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Button ($14.34)
SB ($3.37)
BB ($22)
UTG ($15.62)
MP ($3.72)
Hero (CO) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
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, K
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2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, Button calls $0.30, SB calls $0.25, 1 fold

Flop: ($1) 5
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, 6
spade.gif
, K
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.65, Button calls $0.65, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.30) 8
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(2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, Button raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.25

River: ($7.30) 6
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(2 players)
Hero ?? Really weird spot again because what exactly is he reraising turn with? A better FLUSH? A set that turned into a boat on the river?

What we do here ?
 
duggs said:
jam imo, b/f seems silly and c/c is the worst option.

why not cbet on flop?
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didnt cbet flop cause his flat worried me for some reason. I did mess that one up, for sure. I checked and he checked behind with AK. Such a sad play. Jamming did look like the best option, but for some reason couldn't pull the trigger.😱


EDIT: take a look at the QK hand i posted right after. thats even grosser.
 
Got schooled by this guy i have marked as good aggro.

Put him on a broken Ax flush draw where he held the nut ace and wanted to rep.


Havent made a call this bad this entire month. Disappointing call.


I think the note i had messed up my thought process.


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (BB) ($11.05)
UTG ($8.09)
MP ($9.97)
CO ($16.93)
Button ($10.49)
SB ($9.80)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10
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, K
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2 folds, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) 10
spade.gif
, 8
spade.gif
, 7
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.19, CO calls $0.19

Turn: ($0.63) 7
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.48, CO calls $0.48

River: ($1.59) 8
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $16.16 (All-In), Hero calls $10.28 (All-In)

Total pot: $22.15 | Rake: $1.10

Results below:
Hero had 10
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, K
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(two pair, tens and eights).
CO had Q
spade.gif
, 8
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(full house, eights over sevens).
Outcome: CO won $21.05
 
Oh Oh, your boy vinyl lost 2 buy ins back to back. Getting owned .:afraid:


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SB ($5.69)
BB ($8.14)
Hero (UTG) ($10.39)
MP ($10.45)
CO ($23.20)
Button ($10.10)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6
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, 6
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Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, 3 folds, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.95) 6
heart.gif
, 2
heart.gif
, K
diamond.gif
(3 players)
BB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.56, 1 fold, BB calls $1.36

Turn: ($4.07) Q
heart.gif
(2 players)
BB bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30

River: ($4.67) 8
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4.71, BB raises to $5.98 (All-In), Hero calls $1.27

Total pot: $16.63 | Rake: $0.83

Results below:
BB had J
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, 9
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(flush, Queen high).
Hero had 6
club.gif
, 6
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(three of a kind, sixes).
Outcome: BB won $15.80


Put him on AK or Kx that bet small on turn for pot control afraid of the flush. He played it very well.
 
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

BB ($9.25)
Hero (UTG) ($11)
MP ($12.12)
CO ($8.76)
Button ($18.59)
SB ($6.99)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K
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, Q
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Hero raises to $0.35, 4 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) J
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, 6
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, 5
heart.gif
(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.57, BB calls $0.57

Turn: ($1.89) 9
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($1.89) 10
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10.08 (All-In), BB calls $8.33 (All-In) (MAX VALUE) :dancing:

Total pot: $18.55 | Rake: $0.92

Results below:
BB had A
diamond.gif
, J
spade.gif
(one pair, Jacks).
Hero had K
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, Q
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(straight, King high).
Outcome: Hero won $17.63
 
Wow really tough spots Vinyl, whatever you do/did would be fine imo, in QJ hand he dont have much left i would probably jam and if you lose it is just ul, i dont see a fold here, but hey we know how disciplined (read donkey) i am...
 
And another RIVER JAM, Loving the calls im getting. ( esp when they have NOTHING!!!!!!


Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button ($7.79)
SB ($45.96)
BB ($68.07)
Hero (UTG) ($10.91)
MP ($4.52)
CO ($11.34)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6
club.gif
, 5
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Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Button calls $0.30, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.75) 6
spade.gif
, 3
diamond.gif
, Q
heart.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $0.57, Button calls $0.57

Turn: ($1.89) 4
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.94, Hero calls $0.94

River: ($3.77) 7
club.gif
(2 players)
Hero bets $9.10 (All-In), Button calls $5.98 (All-In)

Total pot: $15.73 | Rake: $0.78

Results below:
Button had A
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, 9
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(high card, Ace).
Hero had 6
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, 5
club.gif
(straight, seven high).
Outcome: Hero won $14.95
 
KT - i expected a snap fold on river from you but still UL
66 NH, just ul imo
KQ wp
 
vinylspiros said:
AWKWARD RIVER SPOT😎

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

CO ($16.16)
Button ($7.19)
Hero (SB) ($11.27)
BB ($7.31)
UTG ($4.41)
MP ($11.03)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q
club.gif
, J
club.gif

3 folds, Button calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.40, BB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($0.90) K
spade.gif
, 2
diamond.gif
, 9
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.40, Hero calls $0.40

Turn: ($1.70) 10
diamond.gif
(2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.80, Hero raises to $2.05, BB calls $1.25

River: ($5.80) 3
spade.gif
(2 players)
Hero ? ( I So wanna Jam here, but the good player in me is telling me not to. what do you think is best play here?), because im kinda not sure if i should bet/fold-----Jam, or check/call>fold?


EDIT: villain is unknown
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ch/f, both of your ranges actually have a lot of flushes in them and he has like no bluffs. I don't think his calling range is worse than QJ and I don't think he bluffs even close to enough to make it a ch/c. It obviously sucks that you ch/r turn and have to ch/f river but I think it's definitely a ch/f, I'd like those advocating a jam to give me a range of hands that are calling the shove.
 
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