How much luck do you think is involved in Texas Hold'em?

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Anyway you look at it luck is a major part of poker. Although, luck online is definitely needed more than live play because its harder to read players. I mean you cant see a twitch, or hear the breathing change plus reactions from players who fold is also helpful.
 
Skill can't be bought for any money. Only perseverance, game experience and self-improvement will help you achieve a high level of play.But still, luck is not unimportant in this process.
 
Hard to say exactly....In my opinien is about 20%.......depend of the tournament..........The number of players in a tourney increase the luck....Moer players .more luck...
 
"One day in poker consists of 90% luck and 10% skill. One year in poker consists of 10% luck and 90% skill."
Chris Ferguson, winner of the 2005 WSOPC.
 
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Hello everybody ! I think luck is inextricably linked with this popular game. although, of course, it does not prevail over rationality, mathematical calculation, correct decision and analytical thinking. luck is probably somewhere close to patience in the game - also a very important component of poker. luck becomes less tangible and noticeable with a huge number of games played. over a long distance, the influence of luck turns out to be less and less significant. but, which is very cool, it brings great interest to poker and makes poker more popular, distinguishing it from chess. so good luck with game !!!😎😎😎
 
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I think that luck is a big part of the game, but what makes a great player is that they fold when they know they are not good. Still have to practice that one
 
Honestly speaking, i don't believe in luck. And i think poker has nothing to do with luck.
Poker is simply a game just like other games where your intelligence and the way you handle a situation is tested.
We can't brand "poker is a game of luck" or "poker is a game of skill". It depends on how you play the game. If your game is based on luck then to you it is a game of luck. Similarly if you employ skill then to you it is a skill game.
It starts with hole cards, then comes flop, turn and river. You have to go through them and decide your course of action. Of course, you have to consider many other factors before making a decision. I don't see any luck involvement there. You are playing with "what cards you are getting". This is skilled game.
But if you are not getting strong hole cards and missing flops often and blame that on luck then you are playing luck game.
 
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I think poker is random.

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Honestly speaking, i don't believe in luck. And i think poker has nothing to do with luck.
Poker is simply a game just like other games where your intelligence and the way you handle a situation is tested.
We can't brand "poker is a game of luck" or "poker is a game of skill". It depends on how you play the game. If your game is based on luck then to you it is a game of luck. Similarly if you employ skill then to you it is a skill game.
It starts with hole cards, then comes flop, turn and river. You have to go through them and decide your course of action. Of course, you have to consider many other factors before making a decision. I don't see any luck involvement there. You are playing with "what cards you are getting". This is skilled game.
But if you are not getting strong hole cards and missing flops often and blame that on luck then you are playing luck game.
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You absolutly right.......For manny players is like : if they won ...they are good players.......if they lost ..they are unlucky....never happy...
 
I believe the more strategic player you are, the less you tend to rely on luck. I do think even the best of players need a little luck to fall their way to place high or win tournaments. No one is statistically ahead on ever hand they get in. You, at some point, will need luck to fall your way in a hand or two throughout tourneys. At least with bigger tourneys. The bigger the tournament, the more likely it is that you will need some luck to advance deep into it.

Luck should not be relied on when playing but is necessary occasionally.
 
I think you're lucky and it's the same for everyone. That's why it takes skill and knowledge to get more out of that moment
 
It’s all luck, or random, how ever you look at it.

You are dealt at random two cards, villain or villains are dealt two cards. These are random. This makes the game a luck or random game. The choices you make, maybe based on odds, or random chances, probability! Again, Luck. ( to many outs)
AA vs KK vs QQ vs 87s? Each hand holds an equity value. But flop turn and river??
Now, over time, making better guesses, choice of odds or in probability over a long term are ( better odds) but chance always plays ! But since you don’t know your opponents cards, you estimate! If you want pure skill, then chess is your game! But the randomness or variation makes the game Luck based! You cannot win better than chance will allow.
 
If you understand the math part of the game you’ll see there is no luck only variance. You’re suppose to lose in every situation as well as win in every situation it’s just how frequent that will occur due to odds
 
Hi everyone.

I once published a thread on the subject, "Luck" is its name.
I think poker has a random component (in fact it is played in casinos and I haven't seen any chess game there).
This component of chance is more noticeable in the short term and less in the long term. If you play well, your ability will prevail in an upward curve, if you play badly it will be exactly the other way around.
But, beyond short and long terms, there is some luck in our beloved sport, like it or not.

Best regards from Buenos Aires.
 
I couldn't quantify it, but obviously there is luck involved and anyone saying otherwise is just deluding themselves.

There are lies, there are damn lies and then there is statistic. Many people seek comfort in naked numbers as a shelter from reality as it is cruel.

On a print out of a sheet of paper of thousand hands, you may see statistical probabilities play out accordingly. And you will say-- see, no luck its all math.

But what that sheet of paper and out of context numbers will not tell you is that one coin flip which you won in a freeroll that went your way is not equal to that one coin flip which you lost in a big tournament that would open up a lot of possibilities for your poker career.

On a piece of paper those two hands are equal. But in reality, that run out hurt your poker chances tremendously. We do not have infinite bankrolls.
 
I think very lucky here in Cardschat have seen very bad players win tournaments, or get consecutive final tables, winning with dumb plays, it shows that influences much luck.
 
Enough to make you feel like you know what you’re doing when you don’t 🙂
 
I feel as if poker is just an RNG fest. Yeah there are some calls you can make and some bluffs but in the end it comes down to the cards.
 
That luck factor is really the frustrating part. Just take a look at this hand I just lost a few minutes ago and tell me what % are we talking about. This is the kind of outcome that makes a lot of players think that online poker is somehow rigged :


https://www.cardschat.com/replayer/224varCxC

PS : player with ATs was raising way too many hands, hence my all in.
 
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Of course variance is existing, but it is possible to beat variance like a lot of players do. Primarily it is a skill game otherwise it would not be possible, that a few players win more often than others.
 
Luck with skill, talent and understanding fundamentals comprise 60 percent of poker, the other 40 percent is discipline and avoiding tilt.
 
Luck and experience 50/50 both goes side by side. If you are not lucky when playing, for sure nothing will go accordingly espectations 😉
 
You are right, I say that myself all the time, but when you lose hands like the one I posted above, and way too often, it really starts getting to you.
 
When playing against very loose players there is probably a lot of luck. I would think in live poker you would see less "luck" involved.
 
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