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Jagsti · Jan 8, 2009

Jagsti said:
OMFG..... Someone who grinded out 200k Vpp's in the month of December, actually missed out on Supernova Elite by 13k Vpp's, without playing a single hand on the final day .

Seriously, 987k Vpp's in a year and FAIL! WTF!

WOW, Stars apparently upgraded him to SNE, as he had a medical problem. Very nice of Stars imo.

ChuckTs · Jan 8, 2009

I think it's fine to float that board. People will blindly barrel their overcards and missed suited connectors and will often give up on the turn. The turn decision is easy though - people don't barrel in 3bet pots, and don't barrel 99-, so I'm snap folding. River's even easier.

Jurn8 · Jan 8, 2009

cant believe I just ran outta petrol ! forgot the petrol light was on and had to get a mate to rescue me wtf how thick am I !!

Poker study time.

Richyl2008 · Jan 8, 2009

Momentary lapse of reason :vroam:

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HAND #1
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Party Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker
MP: $15 (60 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $25.20 (100.8 bb)
SB: $26.45 (105.8 bb)
BB: $58.55 (234.2 bb)
Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with 7

2

MP posts BB out of position, CO posts BB out of position, MP checks, CO checks, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, CO calls $1.25
Flop: ($3.60) 8

Q

7

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $2.50, CO calls $2.50
Turn: ($8.60) J

(2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO raises to $10, Hero raises to $21.20 and is all-in, CO calls $11 and is all-in
River: ($50.60) 3

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

villain had 9s10s

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Richyl2008 said:
Momentary lapse of reason :vroam:

I don't mind preflop and flop, but you have to fold to the beluga.

Hope this was against a reg. Great for your image...

Of course, regs don't post blinds out of turn, so it's probably all in vain. :shot:

blankoblanco · Jan 8, 2009

Jagsti said:
Thats a pretty shit board to float on BW.

i don't really see anything wrong with flop float fwiw. i'm curious why you think it's such a bad board? and what are some types of boards you'd prefer for floating? (not rhetorical questions!, craving some strategy insight from another perspective)

F Paulsson · Jan 8, 2009

BW, what's your vs-3bet-call%? I don't like preflop, is what I'm saying. There's no shame in folding to 3bets, and I don't think QTs is profitable to play in this spot heads-up, and even less when we're not even sure we're going to play in position when we call.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

combuboom said:
and what are some types of boards you'd prefer for floating?

8

Q

7

Jagsti · Jan 8, 2009

combuboom said:
i don't really see anything wrong with flop float fwiw. i'm curious why you think it's such a bad board? and what are some types of boards you'd prefer for floating? (not rhetorical questions!, craving some strategy insight from another perspective)

For me personally, I prefer to float on drawy type boards. If I float on a dry flop like that, I rarely pull the trigger unless villain shows some sign of giving up tbh.

Maybe thats a leak, that I don't float enough in spots like that.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Jagsti said:
For me personally, I prefer to float on drawy type boards. If I float on a dry flop like that, I rarely pull the trigger unless villain shows some sign of giving up tbh.

+1

Basically a board where we can represent a wide range of scary hands and not just sets.

Jagsti · Jan 8, 2009

Right then, I'm gonna say this one more time. BONUS CLEARING ON STARS IS THE SICKEST, GAYEST, RIGGGEDIEST THING EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!!!!!!

Guess whereabouts on this graph I clear my bonus, huh?

Richyl2008 · Jan 8, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
I don't mind preflop and flop, but you have to fold to the beluga.

Hope this was against a reg. Great for your image...

Of course, regs don't post blinds out of turn, so it's probably all in vain. :shot:

Yeah I agree, i. And no I don't think villain was a reg. But there was a 40/0 at the table that called me a fish, so there was a little fun/humour +ev there which should account for something....

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Jagsti said:
Right then, I'm gonna say this one more time. BONUS CLEARING ON STARS IS THE SICKEST, GAYEST, RIGGGEDIEST THING EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!!!!!!

Just stop buying the bonuses and save your fpps for the porsche, imo.

Jurn8 · Jan 8, 2009

anybody have any good material on playing AK for FR could you post it or PM me it that would be sweet cheers.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Jurn8 said:
anybody have any good material on playing AK for FR could you post it or PM me it that would be sweet cheers.

if you want to make things simple, just never hit the fold or call buttons preflop with it.

Post-flop it plays like any other TPTK hand when you hit. When you don't hit comes the hard part. cbet when the board warrants a cbet. double barrel when the board warrants a double barrel. Just remember you have little showdown value, so folding is often a good line, betting is sometimes a good line if you think you can get villain to fold, and calling is usually just spew.

Chris_TC · Jan 8, 2009

BelgoSuisse said:
I don't mind preflop and flop, but you have to fold to the beluga.

What is a Beluga?

Most of the hands that have been posted lately were complete and utter spew imo

Jagsti said:
Right then, I'm gonna say this one more time. BONUS CLEARING ON STARS IS THE SICKEST, GAYEST, RIGGGEDIEST THING EVER IN THE HISTORY OF MANKIND!!!!!!

Guess whereabouts on this graph I clear my bonus, huh?

Uh, wat? Is this a trick question? Graph looks great

Jagsti · Jan 8, 2009

Not sure what it's like at 10nl, but at 100nl fr I rarely see regs getting it aipf v regs. And if they do they're usually up against QQ+ if your lucky!

As Belgo says keep it simple.

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Chris_TC said:
What is a Beluga?

BelugaWhale Theorem - When you are the preflop raiser and your turn bet is raised or check/raise, it is time to re-evaluate one pair hands.

from http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/78/micro-stakes-full-ring/concise-list-2-2-theorems-183304

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Jagsti said:
Not sure what it's like at 10nl, but at 100nl fr I rarely see regs getting it aipf v regs.

Same at 10nl. Reason being there are no 10nl regs.

Jagsti · Jan 8, 2009

Chris_TC said:
What is a Beluga?

Most of the hands that have been posted lately were complete and utter spew imo

Uh, wat? Is this a trick question? Graph looks great

Beluga is basically if your getting chk/raised on the turn then your overpair/TPTK is usually no good!

Regarding the grapsh, I have just cleared the 200k Vpp milestones bonus worth $2k, but I have been on a big dowswong whilst clearing it. As soon as I clear it ... hey presto I go on a heater. And this is not the 1st time, ahhh, meh, Im rambling now

BelgoSuisse · Jan 8, 2009

Chris_TC said:
Most of the hands that have been posted lately were complete and utter spew imo

That's because BW is doing most of the hand posting in this thread...

although you wouldn't believe he spews like that when you look at http://www.pokertableratings.com/overview/BW07507

THAT is a seriously nice graph, imo

vanquish · Jan 8, 2009

i thought that was called the obvious theorem

kleitches · Jan 8, 2009

vanquish said:
i thought that was called the obvious theorem

QFMFT (I've always wanted to do that)

eNTy · Jan 8, 2009

There should be a special level in hell reserved just for the driving license examinators. THEY SHOULD DIE SLOW AND HORRIBLE.

WVHillbilly · Jan 8, 2009

eNTy said:
There should be a special level in hell reserved just for the driving license examinators. THEY SHOULD DIE SLOW AND HORRIBLE.

Parallel parking bad beat???

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