***Jumpstarting January Chat Thread***

[Munchrs]

..... and, it starts tomorrow . Foresight ftw.

The 12 table session went well. The only thing that was kinda worrying was that I think I got way too nitty. Normally I might play like 25/19 when 6 tabling but it dropped significantly to 17/13 eek when I added the extra. It did not affect me too badly because the players are so horrendous that they stack off so light and give up a lot but that just seems too nitty to me.

is the $/hr better thats all that matters really. Who cares if your a nit if you make higher $/hr

 

[Suited Frenzy]

I love people who limp in EP & then shove back @ a MP raiser & show a hand that can be completely dominated.

DONKaments are fun...

Full Tilt, 15/30 blinds NL Hold'em Tourney, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BTN: 1,485 (49.5 bb)
SB: 1,805 (60.2 bb)
BB: 1,500 (50 bb)
UTG+1: 1,500 (50 bb)
UTG+2: 1,210 (40.3 bb)
MP1: 1,500 (50 bb)
MP2: 1,500 (50 bb)
Hero (MP3): 1,500 (50 bb)
CO: 1,500 (50 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with K

A

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 30, 2 folds, Hero raises to 120, 2 folds, SB calls 105, BB folds, UTG+2 raises to 1,210 and is all-in, Hero raises to 1,500 and is all-in, SB folds

Flop: (2,570) 8

K

T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (2,570) 2

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (2,570) 9

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: 2,570 pot
Hero showed K

A

(a pair of Kings) and won 2,570 (1,360 net)
UTG+2 showed A

T

(a pair of Tens) and lost (-1,210 net)

 

[Marginal]

is the $/hr better thats all that matters really. Who cares if your a nit if you make higher $/hr

Yeah I know but it is still a small sample size to determine if it is more profitable. It will probably produce a better hourly but I am not sure I will be able to play close to the length of time I can if I just 6 table. I will have to experiment I guess but I could see myself 12 tabling from now on. It is surprisingly easy even for PLO.

 

[LuckyChippy]

Going to bed now but look at this please.
I know it's bad I just want to know how bad and why. Mainly the river bluff but feel free to blast anything else...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($11.10)
MP ($10)
Hero (CO) ($11.52)
Button ($20.71)
SB ($19.19)
BB ($26.93)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, 9

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB bets $0.85, BB calls $0.80, 1 fold, MP calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.70) 7

, 8

, Q

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.70) Q

(4 players)
SB bets $1.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.90

River: ($7.50) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5

Total pot: $17.50

 

[Marginal]

I hate the call after SB raises. With BB, MP and SB in the pot you are most definitely up against at least 1 bigger ace.

River, there are a ton of missed draws and if you had a queen I am sure you raise the turn. A set probably raises flop as well due to the wetness. You played your hand like a draw and all draws missed. You represent virtually nothing and he never folds 99+

 

[daxter70]

Hmmmm...10nl anybody?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (MP) ($19.59)
Button ($19.19)
SB ($47.73)
BB ($39.28)
UTG ($20.21)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10

, 8

3 folds, SB bets $0.40, BB raises to $1.30, SB raises to $4, BB calls $2.70

Flop: ($8.10) Q

, K

, 10

(2 players)
SB bets $4.70, BB calls $4.70

Turn: ($17.50) 2

(2 players)
SB bets $9.20, BB raises to $30.56 (All-In), 1 fold

Total pot: $35.90 | Rake: $2

Results:
BB didn't show
Outcome: BB won $33.90

10 8 is THE deadliest hand in poker....even in the micros!!!!

 

[WVHillbilly]

Going to bed now but look at this please.
I know it's bad I just want to know how bad and why. Mainly the river bluff but feel free to blast anything else...

No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

UTG ($11.10)
MP ($10)
Hero (CO) ($11.52)
Button ($20.71)
SB ($19.19)
BB ($26.93)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

, 9

UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.10, 1 fold, SB bets $0.85, BB calls $0.80, 1 fold, MP calls $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Flop: ($3.70) 7

, 8

, Q

(4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($3.70) Q

(4 players)
SB bets $1.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.90

River: ($7.50) 2

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5

Total pot: $17.50

Bet the flop.

 

[slycbnew]

Yeah I know but it is still a small sample size to determine if it is more profitable. It will probably produce a better hourly but I am not sure I will be able to play close to the length of time I can if I just 6 table. I will have to experiment I guess but I could see myself 12 tabling from now on. It is surprisingly easy even for PLO.

I'd still love to sweat you sometime...

I tile tables, which is one of the reasons I've never been able to really do more than 8table 6max (I can comfortably 9table FR NLHE tiled) - curiosity, when 12tabling, are you cascading?

 

[Marginal]

I'd still love to sweat you sometime...

I tile tables, which is one of the reasons I've never been able to really do more than 8table 6max (I can comfortably 9table FR NLHE tiled) - curiosity, when 12tabling, are you cascading?

Nah, I'm tiling. Remember, I do not play with a HUD. We can probably get a sweat going pretty soon. School starts tomorrow so might be busy for a few days . I do not know why I still go, I am convinced I am smarter than the teachers.

 

[Munchrs]

Yeah I know but it is still a small sample size to determine if it is more profitable. It will probably produce a better hourly but I am not sure I will be able to play close to the length of time I can if I just 6 table. I will have to experiment I guess but I could see myself 12 tabling from now on. It is surprisingly easy even for PLO.

stamina is easier to build up than your winrate

 

[slycbnew]

Remember, I do not play with a HUD.

I remember that - fwiw, I rely on the HUD a lot less in PLO than I do in NLHE, so this actually makes sense to me.

I'm willing to call/3bet pf lighter w someone whose PFR/3bet is higher than average, and willing to call down lighter w someone whose AFq, VPIP, and PFR are higher than average, but I'm not delving much further into the HUD than that.

I'm so nitty right now that if I catch a reasonable piece of the flop, I'm ahead of almost anyone who doesn't raise me (and when I get raised, it's getting easier for me to put them on a range of hands), and it's not hard to figure out who likes to bluff/bet position a hell of a lot.

 

[slycbnew]

Oh, and I think it's not exaggerating to say that there are 3.5 to 4 fish sitting at any 6max table at 10nl and down, again making the HUD less important...

 

[Suited Frenzy]

Interesting calls...

Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $1.74 (87 bb)
BB: $2.21 (110.5 bb)
UTG+1: $1.47 (73.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.82 (91 bb)
MP1: $1.98 (99 bb)
MP2: $1.72 (86 bb)
MP3: $2.37 (118.5 bb)
CO: $2.08 (104 bb)
Hero (BTN): $2.24 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K

K

3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.16, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.14, CO folds

Flop: ($0.39) T

3

6

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.38, MP3 calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.15) 7

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.70 and is all-in, MP3 calls $1.70

River: ($4.55) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $4.55 pot ($0.30 rake)
Hero showed K

K

(three of a kind, Kings) and won $4.25 ($2.01 net)
MP3 showed 6

J

(a pair of Sixes) and lost (-$2.24 net)

 

[Munchrs]

Interesting calls...

Full Tilt, $0.01/$0.02 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $1.74 (87 bb)
BB: $2.21 (110.5 bb)
UTG+1: $1.47 (73.5 bb)
UTG+2: $1.82 (91 bb)
MP1: $1.98 (99 bb)
MP2: $1.72 (86 bb)
MP3: $2.37 (118.5 bb)
CO: $2.08 (104 bb)
Hero (BTN): $2.24 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with K

K

3 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, MP3 calls $0.02, CO calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.16, 3 folds, MP3 calls $0.14, CO folds

Flop: ($0.39) T

3

6

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $0.38, MP3 calls $0.38

Turn: ($1.15) 7

(2 players)
MP3 checks, Hero bets $1.70 and is all-in, MP3 calls $1.70

River: ($4.55) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $4.55 pot ($0.30 rake)
Hero showed K

K

(three of a kind, Kings) and won $4.25 ($2.01 net)
MP3 showed 6

J

(a pair of Sixes) and lost (-$2.24 net)

standard for 1/2c

 

[Suited Frenzy]

standard for 1/2c

This guy had been folding a LOT though. It was bizarre that he was sitting there folding but then would play J6os & then call all the way down.

It was interesting to me...

 

[Munchrs]

This guy had been folding a LOT though. It was bizarre that he was sitting there folding but then would play J6os & then call all the way down.

It was interesting to me...

that is slightly more interesting. Guess that just shows that some fish are tight?

 

[WVHillbilly]

Do you think when I get to $150 cleared the green line will break through the right end???

 

[Jurn8]

If he's been tight and folding alot, why do we overbet shove the turn?

 

[eNTy]

Do you think when I get to $150 cleared the green line will break through the right end???

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FTP just fails at percentages apparently
they say u get 27% but you are actually getting 15% and hope no one notices.

 

[LuckyChippy]

FTP just fails at percentages apparently
they say u get 27% but you are actually getting 15% and hope no one notices.

Say what?

 

[F Paulsson]

Innovative way of playing WA/WB:

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HAND 1
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$1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Poker Tools by Stoxpoker - Hand Details


BB: $336.90 (168.5 bb)
SB: $212 (106 bb)
BTN: $200 (100 bb)
Hero (MP): $252.05 (126 bb)
CO: $217.35 (108.7 bb)
UTG: $245.10 (122.6 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with A

T

UTG folds, Hero raises to $6, CO calls $6, BTN folds, SB calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($20) T

2

A

(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14, CO raises to $211.35 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls $197.35

Turn: ($442.70) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($442.70) 3

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $442.70 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: T

2

A

K

3

Hero showed A

T

(two pairs, Aces and Tens) and lost (-$217.35 net)
CO showed K

K

(three of a kind, Kings) and won $439.70 ($222.35 net)

 

[BelgoSuisse]

Innovative way of playing WA/WB

Thinly veiled bad beat HH, imo.

 

[slycbnew]

Heater is still on... may it last a while pls...

 

[Jurn8]

lol wtf! SICK heater Sly!

 

[F Paulsson]

Thinly veiled bad beat HH, imo.

Eh, I guess it could be seen as that, but trust me: I would have posted that hand regardless of what the turn and river were. I've seen that knee-jerk reaction before and it always strikes me as something very wrong happening in their brain.

Preflop: "Oooh, jackpot! KK! Now watch me trap these fools, ha-hah! Now just as long as no ace flops..."
On the flop: "DAMMIT AN ACE! *panics* ALL-IN!!!"

I have no idea what neurons are lighting up during the panic moment, but I think it's a hilarious reflex.