Poker is based on mathematics, it is necessary. For every decision you make, while factors like psychology play a role, math is a key element.Poker is a whole science based on mathematics and psychology. And which of these two fundamentals is more important in the game, everyone considers in their own way. Poker mathematics consists in counting outs, odds, EV and the like, which helps to correctly calculate your chances of winning and decide whether it is worth fighting in this hand with mathematical points of view.It should be noted that many well-known poker players received higher education in specialties with an emphasis on mathematics. Many professional players believe that mathematics matters, but not as much as psychology.
Poker Orifice said:
I see that we are talking with you about different topics. I haven't suggested that the winners are 'pre-determined' and I haven't suggested that you don't know much about the online poker sites. Computer program really regulates online games. I am talking about the TECHNICAL component of the developer's computer program, which mostly determines certain logical processes or random numbers for a certain circle of participants of this or that online game. Simply in other words, it is the variable percentage of your victory in this or that game. The developers of IT programs are more competent people in these questions than me and could tell you more. In addition, such conclusions are based on my observations and the comparison of "dealers" hands in live poker and online poker.
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Both matter….and depending on many variables such as who’s in the hand, chip stacks, if you’re on the bubble or ITM. If your on the bubble and you’re 3 smallest stack…the math may not matter and you may fold to the chip leader…because even though the odds are in your favour at the start of the hand…the flop can change that quickly. On the flop side…if I’m a big enough chip leader..,I may not care that my 45 off is not favoured when I raise because knowing my opponent means I know they’ll fold their 10-J.
Both mathematics and psychology are important in poker, but it largely depends on the type of game you are playing and your personal playing style. Mathematics allows you to calculate your winning probabilities and determine the amount of money you should bet to maximize your long-term earnings. Psychology enables you to read your opponents and understand their behavior patterns, which can inform your decision-making process. In summary, both mathematics and psychology are important in poker and complement each other. To be a successful player, you need a good understanding of both and know how to apply them in different game situations
"Developer of IT program" guy here: RNGs are quite advanced and do a really good job on giving a number which can be considered really random. So on the long run it will give an uniform distribution of all possibilities. Suggest you to read about pseudo random number generators or the related algorithm they are using before taking such conclusions without even going into the subject and understanding how these algorithms are really working.olejean said:
Replying to the thread's question itself: I think in online poker, math is way more important than psychology. You don't see the people, their reaction, their behaviour to deduct proper tells. Sure, you should be able to see when someone is on tilt or thinks they are on a winning/losing streak, but that's all.
In live poker it's different, there of course you still need some math but I think the psychology plays much more role there.
In live poker it's different, there of course you still need some math but I think the psychology plays much more role there.
My conclusion so far after reading your comments is the following:
1 - I don't have to take math into account in my poker game because RNG will eliminate me... I have to throw AA because the one who has 7 2 will eliminate me because he has more chips
2 - I have to take into account mathematics in my poker game because that is what the rules of poker are based on
3 - I don't have to rely on luck
4 - I have to rely on luck
5 - Psychologically, I have to put pressure on my opponent
6 - Psychologically, I must not act when pressure is put on me
I'm still waiting for comments, I'm sure that after I read more I'll become a good football player....
Please take it as a pamphlet, all the situations described are real
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1 - I don't have to take math into account in my poker game because RNG will eliminate me... I have to throw AA because the one who has 7 2 will eliminate me because he has more chips
2 - I have to take into account mathematics in my poker game because that is what the rules of poker are based on
3 - I don't have to rely on luck
4 - I have to rely on luck
5 - Psychologically, I have to put pressure on my opponent
6 - Psychologically, I must not act when pressure is put on me
I'm still waiting for comments, I'm sure that after I read more I'll become a good football player....
Please take it as a pamphlet, all the situations described are real
😛 😛 😛
I think it is like beliveing God or not. When you are in a situation, there could be people, who are trusting in the numbers, the other part is more trusting in psychology. There are only a couple of human on the earth, who are intelligent enough, to combine both together. It is my opinion.
Both are needed to be, there are many space for mind games in poker, if you are know the spot, opening range of opps position etc. Also math giving you way more easily make decions with different stack amounts, spots, odds etc) So both must be in harmonic balance with you and your playstyle)
I think that both are inevitably used and a natural thing for those with seniority. However focused you are on the players and whatever decision you made your brain did a bunch of calculations automatically,This being the first thing that happens when you receive the hand 😉bruno13xs said: