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SeanyJ said:
Ugh, MLB 09 The Show has completely taken away any motivation I have to play poker :p This game is so addicting it's like all I do when I'm home, I think I have a problem.

I've been super grateful for another baseball game, MLB 2K9. Ever since it arrived it's kept my husband occupied so much I've had plenty of time to play poker this month.
 
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Ooh.. You ride cyclocross or does that bike just work good for you? I like Kona bikes. Good gear decent prices with cool names and paint. ;) I am more of a paddywagon guy myself (though I own a Giant Bowery in that class).

I plan to build my next 1speed ride from the frame up.

I don't want to be a gear junkie... but you looked at "Jake the Snake" yet? The 105 drivetrain and wheelset make the extra $400 easy to jusify. But whatever...

Two wheels good, four wheels bad.

If you ever come to Dallas we should go on a ride!!!

honestly don't know much about bikes. My friend is a long-time bmxer, has a few road bikes and works at a shop, so he got me a slight deal. Could barely justify dropping that amount on a bike, and yes I did see the jake the snake and it's just too nice for me :)

Mostly the bike is just for city riding, hoping to have it around for a few years now, but I plan on making some trips to my cottage with it which will no doubt take forever and will completely drain me. I was *this* close to getting the paddywagon single speed, but figured I'd want gears for the cottage trips.
 
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Live poker ftw!

I'm up like ~500 over the course of about 10 live games playing, get this, 10c/20c max :eek:
 
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Lemlywinks said:
Live poker ftw!

I'm up like ~500 over the course of about 10 live games playing, get this, 10c/20c max :eek:

Haha, wow. Hustling the dormitory?
 
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D'wilius said:
Haha, wow. Hustling the dormitory?

Haha, almost. My frat friends at the end of the year + home games where the competition is a little less than daunting if you couldn't already tell :p
 
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ChuckTs said:
yes I did see the jake the snake and it's just too nice for me :)

Mostly the bike is just for city riding, hoping to have it around for a few years now, but I plan on making some trips to my cottage with it which will no doubt take forever and will completely drain me. I was *this* close to getting the paddywagon single speed, but figured I'd want gears for the cottage trips.

Jake is nice. Don't let me muddy the waters. In fact the wheelset is likely tougher which for city rides is a good good thing.

It might not be bad idea having the gears. Especially if your area is very very hilly. I am a devoted fixed gear rider. There is something organic about the bike. As little as I know about you I know someday you should try one. You had a title a while back I liked a lot. "Be like water". It works in poker for sure, and if that resonates for you in cards then you owe it to yourself to borrow a single speed for a long ride sometime after you get used to riding again. Fixed gears are the zen of bikes.

Don't be daunted by a long ride to the cottage. Cycling is amazingly fun and you might just get addicted to it. I am. It's the only addiction that is almost impossible to do too much of.

Ok.. I will OT no more. Expect pics of the bike soon.
 
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just wondering if anyone has made ne money playin the blackjack games on any of the internet sites
 
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switch0723 said:
when a reg overbets pot on the river, its like so rarely a bluff its pointless calling it without the nuts

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players

MP3: $307.25 (153.6 bb)
CO: $98.90 (49.5 bb)
Hero (BTN): $226.45 (113.2 bb)
SB: $372.30 (186.2 bb)
BB: $340.35 (170.2 bb)
UTG+2: $43.40 (21.7 bb)
MP1: $45 (22.5 bb)
MP2: $40 (20 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with Q
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J
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5 folds, Hero raises to $4, SB calls $3, BB folds

Flop: ($10) A
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3
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6
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $6, SB calls $6

Turn: ($22) K
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(2 players)
SB bets $10, Hero raises to $34, SB calls $24

River: ($90) 7
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $182.45 and is all-in, SB folds

Results: $90 pot ($3 rake)
Hero mucked Q
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J
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(high card Ace) and won $87 ($43 net)



Next hand was against same reg who called my overbet with A high, guess this explains it:


Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players

BB: $275.25 (137.6 bb)
Hero (BTN): $409.25 (204.6 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BTN with J
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9
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Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $14

Flop: ($40) T
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Q
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A
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(2 players)
BB bets $22, Hero calls $22

Turn: ($84) 6
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(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $150, BB raises to $233.25 and is all-in, Hero calls $83.25

River: ($550.50) 5
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(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $550.50 pot ($0.50 rake)
BB showed J
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Q
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(a pair of Queens) and won $550 ($274.75 net)
Hero showed J
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9
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(high card Ace) and lost (-$275.25 net)

And may as well post this one that supports your hypothesis:

Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 3 Players

BTN: $185.35 (92.7 bb)
SB: $283.80 (141.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $141.40 (70.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K
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8
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BTN folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12) 4
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8
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8
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(2 players)
SB bets $7, Hero calls $7

Turn: ($26) 5
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(2 players)
SB bets $16, Hero calls $16

River: ($58) 3
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(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $112.40 and is all-in, SB calls $112.40

Results: $282.80 pot ($1 rake)
Hero showed K
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8
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(three of a kind, Eights) and won $281.80 ($140.40 net)
SB mucked and lost (-$141.40 net)
 
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so in your entire database you found 1 hand that you overbet shoved river in a full ring game without the nuts? I think that proved my point :)
 
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This was all today.

edit: if you can find the filter that will allow me to check I'll be glad to post a ton of over-bet bluff/semibluffs I've made in the last month or two. In fact against fish after overbetting because they won't fold any boat the next best thing to use it for is folding them off top pair. Obviously gotta have a read on the particular fish but generally like that QJ hand is the type of hands I'll overbet fish with. Regs I don't use it often but I like it a lot HU just for metagame purposes plus it's cool to not let people pot control against you.
 
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makebank said:
just wondering if anyone has made ne money playin the blackjack games on any of the internet sites
Maybe bonus whoring or playing tournament blackjack? But the game is inherently -EV right? I don't see how you could make any legit $ playing against the house.
 
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Monoxide said:
Also, FTPs, are they worth anything if you are using rakeback? Doesn't full tilt deduct your FTPs spending from the store directly out of your RB?? So if i buy anything its not really...anything gained at all? Someone explain to me pls.

They don't deduct directly from your RB. The value (.005 each) is deducted from your MGR. So 1K FTPs is "worth" $5 off your MGR or $1.35 in RB.
 
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zachvac said:
edit: if you can find the filter that will allow me to check I'll be glad to post a ton of over-bet bluff/semibluffs I've made in the last month or two.

There's "River Bet Size/Pot is Bigger Than..." and the same for Flop and Turn, obviously. And then you can play with the hand value filters.

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HAND #1
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Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $43 (21.5 bb)
BB: $43 (21.5 bb)
MP1: $212.85 (106.4 bb)
MP2: $194.45 (97.2 bb)
MP3: $393 (196.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $292.60 (146.3 bb)
BTN: $438.80 (219.4 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is CO with 6
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6
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MP1 raises to $7, 2 folds, Hero calls $7, 2 folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($22) 3
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3
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7
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(3 players)
BB checks, MP1 bets $16, Hero calls $16, BB folds

Turn: ($54) 7
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(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $40, MP1 calls $40

River: ($134) 4
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(2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $228, MP1 folds

Results: $134 pot ($3 rake)
Hero mucked 6
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6
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(two pairs, Sevens and Sixes) and won $131 ($68 net)



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HAND #2
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Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BTN: $136.10 (68.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $377 (188.5 bb)
BB: $89.80 (44.9 bb)
UTG+2: $509.25 (254.6 bb)
MP1: $268 (134 bb)
MP2: $412.35 (206.2 bb)
MP3: $448.10 (224.1 bb)
CO: $52.35 (26.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 7
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7
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2 folds, MP2 raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($14) 9
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9
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2
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(2 players)
Hero bets $11, MP2 raises to $36, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($86) Q
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(2 players)
Hero bets $63, MP2 calls $63

River: ($212) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $272 and is all-in, MP2 folds

Results: $212 pot ($3 rake)
Hero mucked 7
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7
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(two pairs, Nines and Sevens) and won $209 ($104 net)


 
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Had coaching from zach yesterday, was good and got some points to work on which should be cool.
I shall make a blog post about it later but im off surfing today, yeah in england aswell. +EV that my GF lives like an hour from the coast, should be sweet!
 
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wheeee
 

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wow, don't think I've ever ran this good in my life. Didn't lose a pot over like 40bb. Feels good after the recent swongs. Spent over a month trying to break in to 25NL and I might be taking shots at 50NL this weekend. lol poker
 

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u must've had a huge br for 10nl then lol

Starting tables is fun.
First 5 mins of session both hands, 2 tables..

Hero (SB): $50.25 (100.5 bb)
BB: $53.85 (107.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J:spade: A:diamond:
Hero raises to $2, BB raises to $5, Hero raises to $15, BB calls $10
Flop: ($30) 2:heart: J:diamond: T:diamond: (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $19, BB raises to $38, Hero calls $16.25 and is all-in
Turn: ($100.50) 5:club: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: ($100.50) 8:diamond: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Results:[spoil] $100.50 pot ($1 rake)
BB showed 3:club: 3:spade: (a pair of Threes) and lost (-$50.25 net)
Hero showed J:spade: A:diamond: (a pair of Jacks) and won $99.50 ($49.25 net)
[/spoil]

Hero (BB): $60.20 (120.4 bb)
UTG: $50 (100 bb)
MP: $10 (20 bb)
CO: $50 (100 bb)
BTN: $59.05 (118.1 bb)
SB: $29.75 (59.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K:heart: A:heart:
UTG folds, MP raises to $10 and is all-in, 2 folds, SB calls $9.75, Hero raises to $40, SB calls $19.75 and is all-in
Flop: ($69.50) 4:heart: 3:heart: 5:heart: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($69.50) 9:heart: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($69.50) 6:club: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Results:[spoil] $69.50 pot ($3 rake)
SB showed T:diamond: A:diamond: (high card Ace) and lost (-$29.75 net)
Hero showed K:heart: A:heart: (a flush, Ace high) and won $66.50 ($36.75 net)
MP mucked 9:spade: T:heart: (a flush, Ten high) and lost (-$10 net)
[/spoil]
 
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BelgoSuisse said:
Full Tilt, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 8 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

BTN: $136.10 (68.1 bb)
Hero (SB): $377 (188.5 bb)
BB: $89.80 (44.9 bb)
UTG+2: $509.25 (254.6 bb)
MP1: $268 (134 bb)
MP2: $412.35 (206.2 bb)
MP3: $448.10 (224.1 bb)
CO: $52.35 (26.2 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with 7
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7
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2 folds, MP2 raises to $6, 3 folds, Hero calls $5, BB folds

Flop: ($14) 9
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9
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2
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(2 players)
Hero bets $11, MP2 raises to $36, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($86) Q
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(2 players)
Hero bets $63, MP2 calls $63

River: ($212) J
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(2 players)
Hero bets $272 and is all-in, MP2 folds

Results: $212 pot ($3 rake)
Hero mucked 7
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7
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(two pairs, Nines and Sevens) and won $209 ($104 net)

I'm curious about your line here.
 
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ChuckTs said:
I'm curious about your line here.

i'm more curious about the other one. :eek:
 
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hand 1: ch/c, donk is a good line vs good barreling players, once he calls we overbet river to push out overpairs I guess

hand 2: I'm confused. We donk-call for value? Then decide to turn our hand into a bluff?
 
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eNTy said:
u must've had a huge br for 10nl then lol

huh? Normal BR + 14BI upswing = almost enough to start taking shots.

lrn2maths
 

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Huh, How was I supposed to know ur on a 15 bi upswing ?
All I remember seeing is that $150 day u just posted..
 
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eNTy said:
Huh, How was I supposed to know ur on a 15 bi upswing ?
All I remember seeing is that $150 day u just posted..

You're not, but it's not exactly logical to assume that winning $150 at 25NL would put me close to taking shots at 50NL.
 
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dsvw56 said:
You're not, but it's not exactly logical to assume that winning $150 at 25NL would put me close to taking shots at 50NL.

normal 25nl BR is like 500 +150...650 is enough for shot taking?
 
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