*** Mo' Money May Chat Thread ***

[zachvac]

Probably should have just posted that in HA,sorry.

So dont donk the flop.
And if i do just triple barrel like a man.
Other wise C/R flop and get in on turn.

ok I can't tell if you are or not but like just memorizing stuff like that does no good imo. You need to be thinking about why you do things. Why did you donk the flop? Why did you check the river? There are some boards where donking sets is perfectly valid and some boards you'd be right to c/f or c/c on the river with a set. Instead of trying to memrize "ok don't donk flops just c/r with sets and get it in" try to think about what your opponent has, what he'll do with it, and how you can best play against that range. Never said it was easy but it just seemed from this post like you were trying to hammer stuff in your head and that's not really gonna help too much. Gotta understand why you're doing stuff.

On another note I thought I was running really bad. Then after 2 really good days looked and if I quit now it would be 2nd best month of my career . On the other hand I need 6k vpps to keep nova again, why do I put it off until the end every fking month?

 

[S93]

ok I can't tell if you are or not but like just memorizing stuff like that does no good imo. You need to be thinking about why you do things. Why did you donk the flop? Why did you check the river? There are some boards where donking sets is perfectly valid and some boards you'd be right to c/f or c/c on the river with a set. Instead of trying to memrize "ok don't donk flops just c/r with sets and get it in" try to think about what your opponent has, what he'll do with it, and how you can best play against that range. Never said it was easy but it just seemed from this post like you were trying to hammer stuff in your head and that's not really gonna help too much. Gotta understand why you're doing stuff.

On another note I thought I was running really bad. Then after 2 really good days looked and if I quit now it would be 2nd best month of my career . On the other hand I need 6k vpps to keep nova again, why do I put it off until the end every fking month?

Yeah i realize that im the first to admit that this might be a major leak or w/e for me, just taking this line or another with out thinking why i should take this one or another.
Something i really need to work on imo.
But this case i was really just writing it down to "review" it in my head.

The hand above i was thinking something like, Villain has a pretty high c-bet but doesnt c-bet to much in multiway pot and the BTN is a calling station and never bet anything and i hate for this to go C/C/C so i donk. The turn i dont even think about it just bet and the river i have no real argument why i checked i just looked at his river AG and whent with it, dumb i know

 

[SeanyJ]

[x] Best month ever
[x] Least hands ever
[x] I like HU pokers
[x] I'm way too lazy

 

[switch0723]

all 50nl?

 

[Monoxide]

god mode turn on

 

[switch0723]

I hope 1 day i can log in and find a 'Challenge: Switch' thread, that would make me feel speshul

 

[WVHillbilly]

Villain has excellent hand reading skills, still needs to work on trusting them

Villan is 3/3/3.5 over 300+ hands.

Basically he always has KK or the other 2 Aces.

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+2: $99.30 (99.3 bb)
MP1: $138.75 (138.8 bb)
MP2: $196.45 (196.5 bb)
MP3: $37.20 (37.2 bb)
CO: $98.70 (98.7 bb)
BTN: $115.60 (115.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $201.65 (201.7 bb)
BB: $126.30 (126.3 bb)
UTG+1: $162.90 (162.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A

A

UTG+1 raises to $3.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $35, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $201.65 and is all-in,
UTG+1: AA obviously
UTG+1 calls $127.90 and is all-in

Flop: ($330.30) 3

4

7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($330.30) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($330.30) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $330.30 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed A

A

(two pairs, Aces and Sevens) and won $327.30 ($164.40 net)
UTG+1 showed K

K

(two pairs, Kings and Sevens) and lost (-$162.90 net)

Guess he figured he could suck out?

 

[vanquish]

Villan is 3/3/3.5 over 300+ hands.

Basically he always has KK or the other 2 Aces.

Full Tilt, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG+2: $99.30 (99.3 bb)
MP1: $138.75 (138.8 bb)
MP2: $196.45 (196.5 bb)
MP3: $37.20 (37.2 bb)
CO: $98.70 (98.7 bb)
BTN: $115.60 (115.6 bb)
Hero (SB): $201.65 (201.7 bb)
BB: $126.30 (126.3 bb)
UTG+1: $162.90 (162.9 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with A

A

UTG+1 raises to $3.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $14, BB folds, UTG+1 raises to $35, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $201.65 and is all-in,
UTG+1: AA obviously
UTG+1 calls $127.90 and is all-in

Flop: ($330.30) 3

4

7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($330.30) 7

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($330.30) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $330.30 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed A

A

(two pairs, Aces and Sevens) and won $327.30 ($164.40 net)
UTG+1 showed K

K

(two pairs, Kings and Sevens) and lost (-$162.90 net)

Guess he figured he could suck out?

daniel negreanu obv

 

[NineLions]

I hope 1 day i can log in and find a 'Challenge: Switch' thread, that would make me feel speshul

Gotta working on annoying more people for that, switch.

 

[SeanyJ]

all 50nl?

Yep yep, $63 an hour

 

[dsvw56]

god mode turn on

God Mode Code :

up down up down left right left right b a select start

 

[dsvw56]

HU is fun

Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 2 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (SB): $51.80 (103.6 bb)
BB: $24.35 (48.7 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with J

J

Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3) 7

4

7

(2 players)
BB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $3, Hero calls $3

River: ($14) 7

(2 players)
BB bets $2, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $15.35 and is all-in

Results: $48.70 pot ($0.50 rake)
Hero showed J

J

(a full house, Sevens full of Jacks) and won $48.20 ($23.85 net)
BB mucked 4

A

(a full house, Sevens full of Fours) and lost (-$24.35 net)

 

[Dorkus Malorkus]

due to my exceptional pacing i now have less than 3 days to get like 900 vpps >_>

 

[eNTy]

For some reason it is not showing ur graph pic SeanyJ..
But I take it u took maney ?

 

[The Shrog]

Nominating to beat ChuckTs 'sexy' hand:

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 7 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

MP3: $10.40 (104 bb)
CO: $19.15 (191.5 bb)
BTN: $5 (50 bb)
SB: $2.45 (24.5 bb)
Hero (BB): $11.45 (114.5 bb)
MP1: $10 (100 bb)
MP2: $4.75 (47.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is BB with K

J

MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, 4 folds, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.25) 9

T

Q

(2 players)

 

[Monoxide]

i dunno he has alot more money in the pot on the flop, better chance hes going to ship teh monies from the others imotbh.

You only got 1 guy and like 0.25... Yeah that flop is awesome though.

 

[The Shrog]

i dunno he has alot more money in the pot on the flop, better chance hes going to ship teh monies from the others imotbh.

Ah, didn't even consider this. You're right. I still had fun!

 

[Jurn8]

sigh finished exams and 4 months off for sumer fml!

 

[Monoxide]

wait, isnt 4 months off a good thing?

 

[Lemlywinks]

???

Im thinking teh same, unless jurn you are just one of those 0.001% that really enjoy school

But if you do actually enjoy school congrat's, you'll definitely succeed

 

[GunslingerZ]

Question about set-mining in 3-bet pots: If you raise a small pair and get 3-bet, and you want to use the 12-1 rule to see if you have enough implied odds, do you go by the total amount of the 3-bet, or just the amount above your original raise that you have to call?

 

[The Shrog]

If my opponent has a full stack, I think we're always getting the correct price to call.

 

[zachvac]

Question about set-mining in 3-bet pots: If you raise a small pair and get 3-bet, and you want to use the 12-1 rule to see if you have enough implied odds, do you go by the total amount of the 3-bet, or just the amount above your original raise that you have to call?

You pretty much never have odds to set mine to a 3-bet, just fold unless he does something dumb like min 3-bet you.

 

[zachvac]

And this is why we never fold kings preflop:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $116.05 (116.1 bb)
MP: $87 (87 bb)
CO: $129 (129 bb)
BTN: $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with K

K

UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO calls $3, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $32, 2 folds, CO calls $29, BTN raises to $100 and is all-in, Hero raises to $101.50 and is all-in, CO calls $69.50

Flop: ($307) 8

6

A

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($307) 3

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($307) 8

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $307 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed K

K

(two pairs, Kings and Eights) and won $304 ($202.50 net)
CO mucked 9

9

(two pairs, Nines and Eights) and lost (-$101.50 net)
BTN mucked J

J

(two pairs, Jacks and Eights) and lost (-$100 net)

 

[The Shrog]

And this is why we never fold kings preflop:

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

Hero (SB): $101.50 (101.5 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $116.05 (116.1 bb)
MP: $87 (87 bb)
CO: $129 (129 bb)
BTN: $100 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is SB with K

K

UTG folds, MP raises to $3, CO calls $3, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $32, 2 folds, CO calls $29, BTN raises to $100 and is all-in, Hero raises to $101.50 and is all-in, CO calls $69.50

Flop: ($307) 8

6

A

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: ($307) 3

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($307) 8

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Results: $307 pot ($3 rake)
Hero showed K

K

(two pairs, Kings and Eights) and won $304 ($202.50 net)
CO mucked 9

9

(two pairs, Nines and Eights) and lost (-$101.50 net)
BTN mucked J

J

(two pairs, Jacks and Eights) and lost (-$100 net)

CO set tha trap!