Own A Piece of Estelle

I thought he probably had underpair, like 66 or 77, with limp UTG, or a high 10.

I was thinking that if I push here, he probably still calls, even if he had like K10 or Q10, so I just let it go. Not looking to gamble off almost half my chips with this move. I can find a better spot.

PokerStars Game #10605867919: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/06/24 - 22:46:28 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: erth (1440 in chips)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (3838 in chips)
Seat 3: upthegut (2370 in chips)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (2679 in chips)
Seat 5: hazy44 (5110 in chips)
Seat 6: dockop (10423 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (13320 in chips)
Seat 8: rsellars (5430 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (7640 in chips)
erth: posts the ante 25
BRAINCONTROL: posts the ante 25
upthegut: posts the ante 25
Nesto23: posts the ante 25
hazy44: posts the ante 25
dockop: posts the ante 25
hott_estelle: posts the ante 25
rsellars: posts the ante 25
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 25
hott_estelle: posts small blind 100
rsellars: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [Jc Td]
MegaShoulder: calls 200
erth: folds
BRAINCONTROL: folds
upthegut: folds
Nesto23: folds
hazy44: folds
dockop: folds
hott_estelle: calls 100
rsellars: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 5h Ts]
hott_estelle: bets 550
rsellars: folds
MegaShoulder: raises 1450 to 2000
rsellars said, "pop his ***"
hott_estelle: folds
MegaShoulder collected 1925 from pot
MegaShoulder: shows [Qs Th] (a pair of Tens)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1925 | Rake 0
Board [9c 5h Ts]
Seat 1: erth folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: upthegut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Nesto23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hazy44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dockop (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: rsellars (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 9: MegaShoulder collected (1925)

Gosh this one hurt. Knew he had KKs or QQs, after that push, and the runner runner flush. Ouch. Back to work, lost my big chip stack there.

Making the right plays right now, just not getting rewarded.

PokerStars Game #10605915974: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/06/24 - 22:49:28 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: erth (1390 in chips)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (3788 in chips)
Seat 3: upthegut (2320 in chips)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (3954 in chips)
Seat 5: hazy44 (5060 in chips)
Seat 6: dockop (9973 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (12520 in chips)
Seat 8: rsellars (5080 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (8165 in chips)
erth: posts the ante 25
BRAINCONTROL: posts the ante 25
upthegut: posts the ante 25
Nesto23: posts the ante 25
hazy44: posts the ante 25
dockop: posts the ante 25
hott_estelle: posts the ante 25
rsellars: posts the ante 25
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 25
MegaShoulder: posts small blind 100
erth: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [Ad 8d]
BRAINCONTROL: folds
upthegut: folds
Nesto23: folds
hazy44: folds
dockop: folds
hott_estelle: raises 400 to 600
rsellars: raises 600 to 1200
MegaShoulder: folds
erth: folds
hott_estelle: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [Ts 2d As]
hott_estelle: bets 800
rsellars: raises 3055 to 3855 and is all-in
hott_estelle: calls 3055
*** TURN *** [Ts 2d As] [9s]
*** RIVER *** [Ts 2d As 9s] [2s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hott_estelle: shows [Ad 8d] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
rsellars: shows [Qs Qc] (a flush, Ace high)
hott_estelle said, "sick"
rsellars collected 10635 from pot
hott_estelle said, "nh, knew it was KKs or QQs"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 10635 | Rake 0
Board [Ts 2d As 9s 2s]
Seat 1: erth (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: upthegut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Nesto23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hazy44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dockop folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hott_estelle showed [Ad 8d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 8: rsellars (button) showed [Qs Qc] and won (10635) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (small blind) folded before Flop

Couple limpers, dead money in there, just decided to gamble a little, and take it down here, or be in a coinflip against an underpair. There was a chance that someone was being sneaky with AAs or KKs, but I didn't think those two guys would do that. Seemed pretty straightup.

PokerStars Game #10606055457: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/06/24 - 22:58:18 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 (4225 in chips)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (7451 in chips)
Seat 3: upthegut (1695 in chips)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (4879 in chips)
Seat 5: hazy44 (3435 in chips)
Seat 6: dockop (9235 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (6640 in chips)
Seat 8: rsellars (12775 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (6640 in chips)
AB_Poker_12: posts the ante 25
BRAINCONTROL: posts the ante 25
upthegut: posts the ante 25
Nesto23: posts the ante 25
hazy44: posts the ante 25
dockop: posts the ante 25
hott_estelle: posts the ante 25
rsellars: posts the ante 25
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 25
MegaShoulder: posts small blind 200
AB_Poker_12: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [Jh Ac]
BRAINCONTROL: folds
upthegut: folds
Nesto23: calls 400
hazy44: calls 400
dockop: folds
hott_estelle: raises 6215 to 6615 and is all-in
rsellars: folds
MegaShoulder: folds
AB_Poker_12: folds
Nesto23: folds
hazy44: folds
hott_estelle collected 2025 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2025 | Rake 0
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: upthegut folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Nesto23 folded before Flop
Seat 5: hazy44 folded before Flop
Seat 6: dockop folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hott_estelle collected (2025)
Seat 8: rsellars (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (small blind) folded before Flop

2nd break in MTT#9. Down to 7500 chips. A little under average stack. Took a couple bad beats, one really hurt, I would have been in top 5 in chips had I won it, was in really good shape off flop and called an all-in and well the other guy needed a 2 outer or runner runner spades. Runner runner spades came, and it took me down to about 6000 in chips, instead of having around 25,000.

1st break in Bonus MTT. Down to about 1400 chips. Havn't had anything to play really, been up and down. Anyways, will have to push with next decent hand I see.

Busted out of the Bonus MTT.

Still in MTT#9, 300 or so people left, I'm in 124th.

Worked stack back up to about 9000, then got a big hand.

AA v. AK suited, the hearts or straight didn't come, I doubled up big.

PokerStars Game #10606372659: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/06/24 - 23:19:32 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 (13350 in chips)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (5526 in chips)
Seat 3: 444222000 (7880 in chips)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (6754 in chips)
Seat 5: hazy44 (1260 in chips)
Seat 6: dockop (3460 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (9105 in chips)
Seat 8: rsellars (10700 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (6870 in chips)
AB_Poker_12: posts the ante 50
BRAINCONTROL: posts the ante 50
444222000: posts the ante 50
Nesto23: posts the ante 50
hazy44: posts the ante 50
dockop: posts the ante 50
hott_estelle: posts the ante 50
rsellars: posts the ante 50
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 50
BRAINCONTROL: posts small blind 300
444222000: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [As Ac]
Nesto23: folds
hazy44: folds
dockop: folds
hott_estelle: raises 800 to 1400
rsellars: folds
MegaShoulder: folds
AB_Poker_12: raises 2100 to 3500
BRAINCONTROL: folds
444222000: folds
hott_estelle: raises 5555 to 9055 and is all-in
AB_Poker_12: calls 5555
*** FLOP *** [8c 4c 7s]
*** TURN *** [8c 4c 7s] [4d]
*** RIVER *** [8c 4c 7s 4d] [7h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hott_estelle: shows [As Ac] (two pair, Aces and Sevens)
AB_Poker_12: shows [Kh Ah] (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
hott_estelle collected 19460 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 19460 | Rake 0
Board [8c 4c 7s 4d 7h]
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 (button) showed [Kh Ah] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Fours
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: 444222000 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Nesto23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: hazy44 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: dockop folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: hott_estelle showed [As Ac] and won (19460) with two pair, Aces and Sevens
Seat 8: rsellars folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Bit unlucky. Was walked with QQs and KKs past two times in BB, and then this time again with AKs.

At least this ensures that I don't get any bad beats.

PokerStars Game #10606590949: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/06/24 - 23:34:57 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 (13905 in chips)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (7026 in chips)
Seat 3: 444222000 (3580 in chips)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (1854 in chips)
Seat 5: sharkpark (20707 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (17760 in chips)
Seat 8: rsellars (11000 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (12230 in chips)
AB_Poker_12: posts the ante 50
BRAINCONTROL: posts the ante 50
444222000: posts the ante 50
Nesto23: posts the ante 50
sharkpark: posts the ante 50
hott_estelle: posts the ante 50
rsellars: posts the ante 50
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 50
sharkpark: posts small blind 400
hott_estelle: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [Ac Kc]
rsellars: folds
MegaShoulder: folds
AB_Poker_12: folds
BRAINCONTROL: folds
444222000: folds
Nesto23: folds
sharkpark: folds
hott_estelle collected 1200 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1200 | Rake 0
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: 444222000 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sharkpark (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: hott_estelle (big blind) collected (1200)
Seat 8: rsellars folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I dread the river now, really. So bad I know, but I can't help it.

PokerStars Game #10606681082: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2007/06/24 - 23:41:20 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 (19685 in chips)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL (6976 in chips)
Seat 3: sheebo22 (26555 in chips)
Seat 4: Nesto23 (1804 in chips)
Seat 5: sharkpark (8828 in chips)
Seat 6: Reb3186 (20858 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (19310 in chips)
Seat 8: bashed_out (2632 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (22580 in chips)
AB_Poker_12: posts the ante 50
BRAINCONTROL: posts the ante 50
sheebo22: posts the ante 50
Nesto23: posts the ante 50
sharkpark: posts the ante 50
Reb3186: posts the ante 50
hott_estelle: posts the ante 50
bashed_out: posts the ante 50
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 50
Reb3186: posts small blind 400
hott_estelle: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [2s 2c]
bashed_out: raises 1782 to 2582 and is all-in
MegaShoulder: folds
AB_Poker_12: folds
BRAINCONTROL: folds
sheebo22: folds
Nesto23: folds
sharkpark: folds
Reb3186: folds
hott_estelle: calls 1782
*** FLOP *** [7h 8h 6s]
*** TURN *** [7h 8h 6s] [Jd]
*** RIVER *** [7h 8h 6s Jd] [9c]
bashed_out said, "nh"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hott_estelle: shows [2s 2c] (a pair of Deuces)
bashed_out: shows [Td Kh] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
bashed_out collected 6014 from pot
hott_estelle said, "not enough"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 6014 | Rake 0
Board [7h 8h 6s Jd 9c]
Seat 1: AB_Poker_12 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: BRAINCONTROL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sheebo22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Nesto23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sharkpark (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Reb3186 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: hott_estelle (big blind) showed [2s 2c] and lost with a pair of Deuces
Seat 8: bashed_out showed [Td Kh] and won (6014) with a straight, Seven to Jack
Seat 9: MegaShoulder folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Busted out 86th place.

PokerStars Game #10607115425: Tournament #52924362, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (800/1600) - 2007/06/25 - 00:13:35 (ET)
Table '52924362 133' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: TH3 FL0P (65651 in chips)
Seat 2: CRAHE217 (61789 in chips)
Seat 3: sheebo22 (36706 in chips)
Seat 4: dwayne4253 (67193 in chips)
Seat 5: sharkpark (47671 in chips)
Seat 6: Reb3186 (72699 in chips)
Seat 7: hott_estelle (9986 in chips)
Seat 8: RockyMtnMike (19775 in chips)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder (47873 in chips)
TH3 FL0P: posts the ante 75
CRAHE217: posts the ante 75
sheebo22: posts the ante 75
dwayne4253: posts the ante 75
sharkpark: posts the ante 75
Reb3186: posts the ante 75
hott_estelle: posts the ante 75
RockyMtnMike: posts the ante 75
MegaShoulder: posts the ante 75
Reb3186: posts small blind 800
hott_estelle: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to hott_estelle [5c 5d]
RockyMtnMike: folds
MegaShoulder: folds
TH3 FL0P: folds
CRAHE217: folds
sheebo22: raises 3200 to 4800
dwayne4253: folds
sharkpark: calls 4800
Reb3186: folds
hott_estelle: raises 5111 to 9911 and is all-in
sheebo22: calls 5111
sharkpark: raises 37685 to 47596 and is all-in
sheebo22: folds
*** FLOP *** [7d 9s As]
*** TURN *** [7d 9s As] [Ad]
*** RIVER *** [7d 9s As Ad] [Jd]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hott_estelle: shows [5c 5d] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
sharkpark: shows [Js Jh] (a full house, Jacks full of Aces)
sharkpark collected 31208 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31208 | Rake 0
Board [7d 9s As Ad Jd]
Seat 1: TH3 FL0P folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: CRAHE217 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: sheebo22 folded before Flop
Seat 4: dwayne4253 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: sharkpark (button) showed [Js Jh] and won (31208) with a full house, Jacks full of Aces
Seat 6: Reb3186 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: hott_estelle (big blind) showed [5c 5d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 8: RockyMtnMike folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: MegaShoulder folded before Flop (didn't bet)

How are you doing on this venture estelle?

Can you give us the updates with games played, monies or not accumulated.

wtf ever happened with this, I hate to be a ass but really come on its been months and this is not even half way done? thats pretty ridicules. This should of been done in 1 month tops, if you know you wont be able to play all the scheduled games in time allowed you should either never agree to the backing or refund the money when you realize you can not play them.


no offense estelle but this is damn silly. You have played 9 tourneys so far so are we just cutting our loses here I guess?

Played in 10 Official MTTs. I have won back I believe $65-75 back. There are 14 more Official MTTs to go.

Storms, I'm sorry if it's taking a while. Initially I believed I would just play about 5 MTTs a week, and be done in about a month or so. I didn't see any problems with being able to accomplish this. Obv things really started to come up, and I havn't been able to play any poker at all for about the past 3 weeks or so, so that's slowed down the progress a lot.

I really will get back to doing this in a week or so when I'm not busy. I'm not going to run off with your $10 storms, I really thought people wouldn't have a problem if I stopped for a few weeks, and started up again once the summer was out and I was no longer busy. But if you guys want me to finish it out now, then I'll make sure to find time to do this. No worries, I'll get it done storms. I understand why you're stating what you did, and no I don't think you're an ass.

Just because no one said anything, and since I did make another post in another thread saying I was busy for a few weeks, I just naturally assumed everyone knew I was not going to be able to play the MTTs for you guys for a while, and that you guys were all OK with it. Since you are not, I'll make sure to start this up again. I'll try to play at the least 3 MTTs a week then.

hott_estelle said:

Played in 10 Official MTTs. I have won back I believe $65-75 back. There are 14 more Official MTTs to go.

Storms, I'm sorry if it's taking a while. Initially I believed I would just play about 5 MTTs a week, and be done in about a month or so. I didn't see any problems with being able to accomplish this. Obv things really started to come up, and I havn't been able to play any poker at all for about the past 3 weeks or so, so that's slowed down the progress a lot.

I really will get back to doing this in a week or so when I'm not busy. I'm not going to run off with your $10 storms, I really thought people wouldn't have a problem if I stopped for a few weeks, and started up again once the summer was out and I was no longer busy. But if you guys want me to finish it out now, then I'll make sure to find time to do this. No worries, I'll get it done storms. I understand why you're stating what you did, and no I don't think you're an ass.

Just because no one said anything, and since I did make another post in another thread saying I was busy for a few weeks, I just naturally assumed everyone knew I was not going to be able to play the MTTs for you guys for a while, and that you guys were all OK with it. Since you are not, I'll make sure to start this up again. I'll try to play at the least 3 MTTs a week then.

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ty for explanation, I remember the post saying you were busy but heard nothing about it after then.

Havn't had time to play any official $5.50 MTTs yet.

But at the moment, I have some time off today, so planning on a full days worth of poker for you guys. I will be in the Guys v. Gals Tourney (although that won't count towards the money for you owners, but just letting you know).

Also, I'll probably play a $5.50 later today.

And right now, I'm playing a bonus MTT for you guys--the $11 crazy huge donkfest, of 20,000 entrant $200K prize pool on PokerStars right now.

Tourney ID #56065439 if you guys want to check it out (anyone else in this? Oh and just a nice "hey" from TB, check the bottom of the list of entrants/finishers, one of the best accomplishments I've seen in poker yet, especially considering the field size).

Whats happening with this Estelle?

I would appreciate an answer and an update if it's not to much trouble.

It has been hanging for way to long now IMO.

Played in 15 official MTTs now, 9 more to go.

I've won back the initial investment of $120 that you guys put in, now I'm just playing for some profits for everyone.

Once again, didn't really think I'd be this busy, but I am--sorry.

Anyways, I've gotten back the initial investment of $10 from everyone now, with 9 more MTTs to go for you guys, so it's all profit from here. But I will be busy again this week, and will be able to play a couple more MTTs though.

Good job - and good luck in the last 9!

hott_estelle said:

Played in 15 official MTTs now, 9 more to go.

I've won back the initial investment of $120 that you guys put in, now I'm just playing for some profits for everyone.

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WOOT WOOT !!!!!

Keep it rollin Estelle!!!!!

Woo hoo....everything else is gravy!! Gravy on Estelle?

GL in the last nine.

Jack Daniels said:

Woo hoo. Gravy on Estelle?

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We'd like to welcome back from vacationing our resident dirty ole Mod at any age, welcome back JD! Oh, BTW, FYP. :joyman:

I would have to say, It's the most unconventional staker/backer/runner/horse investment I have ever been involved with.

It for sure does not follow the regular/normal way of doing these things.

The lack of information game by game alone is disappointing, and the time it's taking to full-fill the obligation is a bigger let down.

It seems that the only time you bother to update us, is when you are prompted to do so, and even then it is very sketchy at best.

I am aware, from what you say, that you are in a busy period, but I understand you knew this would be the case when you came looking for backers.

I am sure others don't see it this way, but I just wanted you to know how 1/12 of your backers feels about it.

Cheers.

Mojomax747 said:

I would have to say, It's the most unconventional staker/backer/runner/horse investment I have ever been involved with.

It for sure does not follow the regular/normal way of doing these things.

The lack of information game by game alone is disappointing, and the time it's taking to full-fill the obligation is a bigger let down.

It seems that the only time you bother to update us, is when you are prompted to do so, and even then it is very sketchy at best.

I am aware, from what you say, that you are in a busy period, but I understand you knew this would be the case when you came looking for backers.

I am sure others don't see it this way, but I just wanted you to know how 1/12 of your backers feels about it.

Cheers.

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I agree 2/12

Anybody who wants out of their deal, pm me and I'll cover your investment.

Just so I get the piece JD wants ta put gravy on.

reglardave said:

Anybody who wants out of their deal, pm me and I'll cover your investment.

Just so I get the piece JD wants ta put gravy on.

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guess you missed the whole point to mojo post.


the money is not the issue at all, the agreement was. We never asked for a deadline on it because we didnt think there would be periods of day/weeks/months where estelle would just kinda disapear. Nothing personal estelle I know things come up but when you expect to be gone for a extended period of time you should post that.

"hey guys no tourneys for 2 weeks im going away"
"ok now back guys going to play 1 tonight for sure"

that kinda thing.

stormswa said:

guess you missed the whole point to mojo post.

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On the contrary, I thonk I got his point loud and clear.

He wants to know what's happening with the agreed on series of tournaments, 'cause he's unhappy/disappointed/miffed because it's taking a while. The point is pretty clear and selfexplanatory; I merely offered to alleviate ANYONE'S uneasiness by buying up their share of the stake and giving Estelle time, room, or whatever she needs to "get er done" in her own time and her own way. Lots of people around this forum from time to time run up against the incontrovertable fact that sometimes, life intrudes on poker.

So, if you don't wanna take me up on my offer, fine, don't. But don't assume that I "missed the whole point" . Maybe, y'all missed MINE .