Ultfrozen said:
Nah, there has always been and will always be FISH in the game. There are plenty now as always, maybe more than ever as they watch it on TV and think I could do that. lol.
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Nah, there has always been and will always be FISH in the game. There are plenty now as always, maybe more than ever as they watch it on TV and think I could do that. lol.
There is no question that the games today are simply harder to beat than they were 5 or 10 years ago. Many fish have either gone broke or quit. And many people have simply learned to play better.
Now if you play at the lower stakes in particular there are obviously still clear exceptions to this that you can find all the time.
Now if you play at the lower stakes in particular there are obviously still clear exceptions to this that you can find all the time.
online poker has attracted millions of players who don't have a clue how to play, great if they are playing for real money with their own money (more in the pot) but not so great when they water down your chances to win in the freerolls. However, poker has become mostly acceptable in the general public's eye compared to "evil" when I was a child.
less freerolls but more game time seem to be the same but needing more players to know about other poker sites and also would like to get UB up again and would like to play more awesome tournaments
for be a long time ago I was 16 at pokerstar/full tilt/bodog etc etc
now betonline/ACR/bodog etc etc. Some but not really.
Cash game - Ehhhh Yea
Tournament game - No
It's hard to imagine. I used to be a poker nerd for 16 age. Times changes tho.
now betonline/ACR/bodog etc etc. Some but not really.
Cash game - Ehhhh Yea
Tournament game - No
It's hard to imagine. I used to be a poker nerd for 16 age. Times changes tho.
PokerSki said:
The cards still look the same, they just don't work any more 🙂 people gamble more and want more action, given by most of the companies with there shuffle systems. still enjoyable but I'd like not to have to make a living from it.
To begin with, a lot of players are constantly playing on several tables. Most of the players these days play a much larger number of hands compared to what used to be the norm for experienced players.
These guys are much more aggressive than the old guard - but they also have more experience due to the fact that they play on a crazy number of hands. Once, most players dropped before the flop, if they had bad cards - now everyone wants to get to the flop. That is, even if a very weak pair is needed for the nuts, the chances of an opponent falling into it are much higher.
These guys are much more aggressive than the old guard - but they also have more experience due to the fact that they play on a crazy number of hands. Once, most players dropped before the flop, if they had bad cards - now everyone wants to get to the flop. That is, even if a very weak pair is needed for the nuts, the chances of an opponent falling into it are much higher.
The game hasn't changed. The "conventional wisdom" on how to play has both evolved and split into different camps. It used to be pretty much 80% - 90% played a TAG starting hand set and went passive post flop without a made hand.
Now you have that group, the LAG style see a lot of starting hands and exploit post flop when the old camp goes passive.
Then we have a new "GTO" camp coming in and playing more of the odds game versus how the actual cards and hand is developing along with the old 10% of play anything and bet in position to apply max pressure crowd.
This has made it harder to win fast at cash but a slow and steady return is still possible. MTT's are really the same survive early and play smart late is what it takes and just grin and bear the variance losses.
Now you have that group, the LAG style see a lot of starting hands and exploit post flop when the old camp goes passive.
Then we have a new "GTO" camp coming in and playing more of the odds game versus how the actual cards and hand is developing along with the old 10% of play anything and bet in position to apply max pressure crowd.
This has made it harder to win fast at cash but a slow and steady return is still possible. MTT's are really the same survive early and play smart late is what it takes and just grin and bear the variance losses.
wondering
I'm finding it very strange the way some people play the game in this new day and age, I mean what is going on in someone's head when there is a raise in front of you and a call or 2, and you hold 85 or 94 and think its a good spot to go, Allin? of course, they have a smaller stack so the raisers and callers are not in any danger but losing 1/3 of their stack. so all action is preflop. and the run outcomes to perfectly match the donk move with very weak hands?? True that one probably remembers the hands that hit perfect and forgets the ones that don't but it does seem to happen regularly online. How can they think this is a good move and it turns out good for them? Amazing!!
I'm finding it very strange the way some people play the game in this new day and age, I mean what is going on in someone's head when there is a raise in front of you and a call or 2, and you hold 85 or 94 and think its a good spot to go, Allin? of course, they have a smaller stack so the raisers and callers are not in any danger but losing 1/3 of their stack. so all action is preflop. and the run outcomes to perfectly match the donk move with very weak hands?? True that one probably remembers the hands that hit perfect and forgets the ones that don't but it does seem to happen regularly online. How can they think this is a good move and it turns out good for them? Amazing!!
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Sometimes I wonder if poker had changed as the time passed just like the football did (soccer). When I watch some rare old footage of poker it reminds me of what Pele did with the ball back then. It just seems so much better and harder nowadays.
