Is Poker Like the Lottery?

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vapandrei said:
Trust me on this one, while it is masochistic, the mental gymnastics will keep you playing (hypothetical you who's in this situation). I've a few buddies in this situation and there was a recent thread on CC with someone who looked at how much he lost in the last year and didn't even realize it. Yet he still was playing.

right, but then he was trying to improve. Or what do you mean by "mental gymnastics"? I am aware that there is people that were good regulars at some point and then because the game developed they became loosing players. But those people either improve or quit poker. (or loose everything and thus quit) But if they keep playing it can only be for sake of fun. Noone sane would keep playing a game were he constantly looses without having fun or/and the will of improving. I quess we could translate "luck" to a fun- and "skill" to semi/profesional approach to the game.
 
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I dont agree, but I love this quote from the Poker Brat:

"If poker didn't involve luck, I would win everytime."
 
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Nick301274 said:
how often did you happen to have a 100% confidence on the flop that you should win, and on the river you lose
75% I win 25% there. Poker itself is a lottery with its own rules. More precisely, the lottery is the basic concept laid down in the creation of the game and does not end as the distribution of poker is colossal - and only gaining momentum. Even if in some countries it is officially banned. "Backhand fruit is sweet" people still find ways to play poker.
 
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Nick301274 said:
how often did you happen to have a 100% confidence on the flop that you should win, and on the river you lose

I have 120% confidence for this situation on an average of 3000+ result together.
 
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Unfortunately, there are many players, I think beginners who regard poker as a lottery. Honestly, when I'm constrained by the situation, I'm still playing like a lottery: either I double up or lose everything. Here comes the luck. :)

 
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Diferrent

I think poker vs lottery are differrent, because lottery only need your lucky, but poker need lucky and ur skill
 
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vapandrei said:
Ok, answer me this. If poker is a lottery, how many times have you won at poker and how many times have you won the lottery?


and in the lottery there are small winnings equal to most of the winnings in poker, and how many times you have hit a big win in poker equal to the lottery jackpot
 
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How can poker be compared to a lottery? It's a game of your ability. If you play with a weak or middle hand and then lose on the river then you should blame yourself. In poker AA lose too. Just you should not with AK, AQ, AJ, AT, etc. to go all-in.
 
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I do not compare them but answer a precise question
 
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If poker was was like the lottery I would play the lottery every single day with the jackpots they have....
 
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Poker can be a game of luck but that dosen't explain why there are the same great players at the final tabels. :D Hope u understand.Cheers
 
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For me its not really like lottery because you need skill,at the end of the day better players are winning players..
 
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I feel like if we are honest with ourselves, we would remember those times we sucked out on someone and not just the horrible bad beats we take.
 
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Of course the game have some luck that can influence... But the skill of the player is as important as the luck, because you need to evaluate every spot
 
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I would say like three percent.You dont flop the nuts very often.And huge hands don't come bye often either.
 
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Not like the lottery as you always have decisions you can constantly make.
 
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I think that 70% is skill and skill, but 30% depends only on luck. And no matter how good it is, there is still someone who is more lucky today.
 
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I often have 100% confidence on the flop of 2 pairs or SET or STRIT, but then on the turn or river they interrupt my cards with the older combinations and I lose the hand!
 
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So, in poker a lot depends on fortune, but also a significant part depends on the player's skills, focusing, reading the opponent and other skills.
 
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Nick301274 said:
how often did you happen to have a 100% confidence on the flop that you should win, and on the river you lose

It happens, but not too often. If the flop is 100%, then it's better to try not to slowplay the game, it's a common mistake. On the flop bet raise, 3-bet, etc.
 
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This is definitely not a lottery. But also luck is needed in order to win.
 
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In some sense, it's impossible to win without poker luck.
 
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no poker is not a lottery! but the more you learn poker
Better than your% when betting all in, but luck has its rightful place in poker)
 
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There isnt much luck involved lets say you lose with a hand like j8 off then lose to kj well you say i got unlucky but what lead you to even play j8 im the first place mp what made you checl raise the flop all those little things are what effects the bigger picture its not always luck my friend
 
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