All-in with every Hand is clearly not a how poker should be played. For sure, in certain situations (when you are the low stack; when you have Position; to bluff on the turn or river with mediocre hands) you might consider to shove. But as with all Things in poker, it depends of a lot of different factors (what is the style of your opponents, more loose or more tight; what is the stack size of your opponents; what is your Position; what has been the Dynamics until now..)
Just to add on my previous comment: I just was playing a chill game on pokerstars NL Holdem, with Play Money. I went all-in preflop with AK suited - one Opponent called with AJ offsuit - he smashed my Hand after river gave him a JJ pair.
I thought this demonstrates, why all-in with every Hand is not a good lesson..even with high pairs, for me it Always feels like Kind of a coin flip. It just feels more comfortable doing the coin flip when you have a strong pair in your Hands..
I thought this demonstrates, why all-in with every Hand is not a good lesson..even with high pairs, for me it Always feels like Kind of a coin flip. It just feels more comfortable doing the coin flip when you have a strong pair in your Hands..
some people buy into the lower stakes games and take several stabs at it like this, if they hit, they become NITS, actually its not a bad strategy. Better than sitting for 5-8 hours for a small payout cause you never really got going.
All-in every hand is not poker.. But occasionally, I've seen players go on ridiculous runs where they seem to never lose.. Eventually though, they will lose. You might find players using this kind of strategy during rebuy tourneys to try to build up a big stack early, then play tight once they've achieved this. But, they are willing to rebuy again and again.. Not the strategy I typically employ...
Shawnt said:
Step #1-gambling problem identified.
Step #2-Convince self this is a sound playing strategy to avoid confronting issue. [Rush, what rush, this is a sound money making style.]
Step #3-Lose, or if you prefer, loose money.
OR
Step 2A-Seek help, actually learn the game or quit playing.
Yes, I'm just kidding, obv this works, that's why none of the folks who month after month & year after year are at the top of the CC leader board, play this way. See ya in Vegas. 😎🙂
Sometimes it can be fun ))
This can be especially fun in tournaments with fixed rates (not all-ins, but CAP in each hand). When luck is on your side, it's damn fun ))
I remember about 10 years ago when on PS still had freerolls with fixed bets, in one of these tournaments i just tore everyone at the table during several hours 😀
This can be especially fun in tournaments with fixed rates (not all-ins, but CAP in each hand). When luck is on your side, it's damn fun ))
I remember about 10 years ago when on PS still had freerolls with fixed bets, in one of these tournaments i just tore everyone at the table during several hours 😀
It's a part of every freeroll on early levels I think. Sometimes I do that too, when I don't feel like playing right now. Just to try to start the tournament with bigger stack 😀 If i lose it's ok cuz i didn't want to play anyway. If I win 1 or 2 allins I sit down then and focus on the game with 4x-5x or even more starting chips than the others. It can be fun 😀
This is one of the most annoying things is poker. I get why some people do it in freeroll tourneys but why even play in a freeroll if you dont really care to be there. A lot of the players are in the tournament to play poker and try to advance to the money and even win. And to have to start off playing the all in game right away is very annoying. It makes for bad poker to start games especially when some pushed ball in with a bad hand and you've got a premium hand and it gets cracked by 2 pair, a straight, a flush, etc. with a hand that should've never been in to start with.
TheDev said:
Totally agree!
It's absolutely annoying when somebody is doing this. Mostly because there's plenty of online players, actually trying to learn something. Like me, for example. Or just to play for pleasure at their spare time.
I think that there should be some restrictions for those kind ot "players" (all-inners) so they don't have the opportunity to ruin the game for the others.
In reference to OP... I often thrive on players doing this because it is predictable. If I see someone doing this then I see dollar signs in my eyes (like in the cartoons!)
It is one way in which TAGs exploit weaker players. Yes, it does mean that you sometimes have to fold some relatively/potentially decent hands, but you just stay patient and hope that someone else does not exploit it first. Sometimes all it takes is a top pair but a little patience is probably better. A TAG will only play decent hole cards so when they do hit something good it is usually really good.
I know that super crazy LAGs often exploit the C-bet of TAGs because they know that it is often just a bet with nothing but high card A or K, which has not connected to the flop. Where that falls down though is when the TAG has bet on something like 88 and they hit a set on the flop. The flop may look like something useless to a TAG (who plays mostly high cards like KQ etc) but in reality they have hit a set with something relatively low.
Often a LAG will shovel all-in just because they connected with the flop in any way whatsoever. It does work quite often but a patient TAG will know when to call that all-in. It does not automatically make the TAG the winner but statistically they are more likely to win against the LAG. More than once I have seen a super LAG's stack go all the way up to 4 or 5 buy-ins and then all the way to nothing in the space of a few minutes.
It is one way in which TAGs exploit weaker players. Yes, it does mean that you sometimes have to fold some relatively/potentially decent hands, but you just stay patient and hope that someone else does not exploit it first. Sometimes all it takes is a top pair but a little patience is probably better. A TAG will only play decent hole cards so when they do hit something good it is usually really good.
I know that super crazy LAGs often exploit the C-bet of TAGs because they know that it is often just a bet with nothing but high card A or K, which has not connected to the flop. Where that falls down though is when the TAG has bet on something like 88 and they hit a set on the flop. The flop may look like something useless to a TAG (who plays mostly high cards like KQ etc) but in reality they have hit a set with something relatively low.
Often a LAG will shovel all-in just because they connected with the flop in any way whatsoever. It does work quite often but a patient TAG will know when to call that all-in. It does not automatically make the TAG the winner but statistically they are more likely to win against the LAG. More than once I have seen a super LAG's stack go all the way up to 4 or 5 buy-ins and then all the way to nothing in the space of a few minutes.
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TheDev said:
I understand your point and agree that there are things that are annoying to people. I think that everyone has the right to play any way they choose though. I think the main thing to do is exploit it. It is bad play (going all-in all the time) but any form of bad play can be exploited especially when you are patient.
I know it is utterly frustrating when you ARE patient and the LAG just out of the blue ends up with a full house with 72o when they shoved all-in pre-flop against your AA or something similar. Statistically though, the patient TAGs will usually win in the long run.
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