**Official Micro Stakes Madness 5NL,10NL,25NL Focus Group**

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Wait, what about showdown? Maybe you can't use the info as much when playing that many tables, but surely seeing what your opponents have at showdown will help with future decisions in the same session.
 
RogueRivered said:
I don't know. I've never tried at FR, but looking back at my database, I see that I've done 24 tables at 6 max only once for about 80 minutes, and at least 20 tables a few other times. I guess the main weakness with this system is I get tired quickly. I can play a lot longer with 14 or so tables (and keep a better winrate). It's fun to push the limits, though.

I really see no point in watching flops on hands you've folded and say, wow, I would have had a full-house if I didn't fold. So I've unchecked the Show Folded Hands option in PokerStars. I don't want to be tempted to sneak a peak at what I missed. If folding was right before the flop, then it was right, period.

Same goes for seeing the showdown. It's not necessary. Whether you made a good play or a bad play, it doesn't matter. You can use your database to figure that all out later after the session. I learned that on here (CC). Divorce yourself from the results, but analyze your play afterwards to try to improve future decisions.

It's very easy to play 10 tables with this system, even 14 seems slow after doing 20+.
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dude how horribly did you play when you tried to 24-table 6max?
 
D'wilius said:
Wait, what about showdown? Maybe you can't use the info as much when playing that many tables, but surely seeing what your opponents have at showdown will help with future decisions in the same session.
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Well, sometimes I can't resist to see what happened, so I scroll up the chat box or open the hand replayer to see. But that just usually gets me behind on keeping up with the other tables. I keep an eye on my opponents' showdown stats and general aggressiveness, so it's pretty clear when you're going to get beat, but sometimes the odds require you to call it down.

vanquish said:
dude how horribly did you play when you tried to 24-table 6max?
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I played 3 sessions that day, one with 23 tables, one with 24 tables, and one with only 11 tables, for a total of 2,627 hands in 180 minutes. I won 22.14bb/100, so I don't think I played horribly. I've had higher winrates (and losses, of course), but overall this was one of my better days.

During these sessions, I gradually drop down a few tables as tables break apart and don't usually add new ones, so it's not 24 or 23 the whole time, but probably averaging around 19-21 tables overall.

In general, when I'm not experimenting, I play around 14 tables at once. Like I said before, I can't handle tiling, so these tables are sort of cascaded but not really because they are stacked directly on top of each other. I only need to deal with one table at a time, no matter how many are going in the background.
 
You said you were doing this at 100l & 200nl ? How many hands is this, have you been doing this for a long time, consistent winner over a significant sample ?

I just find it hard to believe from what I know of 6max. Do you play a nit style ? From what I heard c9 say one time it seems that is not a necessarily a losing style at 6max..
 
RogueRivered said:
I've been doing this for less than 2 months now, and between 1-2NL and 2-5NL, I'm winning around 20BB/100.
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Maybe you should focus less on playing a bajillion tables, and focus more on improving and moving up levels?

And I really don't want to sound like a dick, but can we try to keep this thread from becoming just another "chat" thread?
 
eNTy said:
You said you were doing this at 100l & 200nl ? How many hands is this, have you been doing this for a long time, consistent winner over a significant sample ?

I just find it hard to believe from what I know of 6max. Do you play a nit style ? From what I heard c9 say one time it seems that is not a necessarily a losing style at 6max..
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No, I didn't say that -- I only play 2NL and 5NL. I'm moving up as the bankroll allows. I guess I play a nitty style, 18.1/8.7. I've been doing it since last month (Feb. 12th) and have played 26,000 hands, with a winrate currently at 17.44bb/100 overall. PokerStars gave me $5 and now I have $120, small change I know, but I'm definitely a bankroll nit. I'll only put 1/50th of my bankroll on any table. I do better at 6 max than FR, so that's all I've played in March.

dsvw56 said:
Maybe you should focus less on playing a bajillion tables, and focus more on improving and moving up levels?

And I really don't want to sound like a dick, but can we try to keep this thread from becoming just another "chat" thread?
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Oh, I am focused on improving. I just like to play a lot of hands so I have a lot of situations to analyze later on. I'm moving up as much as I feel comfortable with at the time. Gradually the amounts get higher. I don't want the money to affect my decisions.

I don't follow you regarding the "chat" comment. Sorry I just jumped into this thread unannounced. I had been reading parts of it for awhile, mainly before I started learning cash games (I was a tournament player). Someone asked a question about how many tables, and I was really curious to see what you all thought of my multi-tabling technique. When people say they have trouble beyond 4 tables at a time, I just don't understand it. I think maybe it's just a question of method, tiling vs. stacking.

I'd be happy to post more appropriate content here. What sort of things do you want? Graphs, hands, random comments? I'm open for suggestions.
 
D'wilius said:
I'm afraid to post here now. :dong:
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lol why?


Edit : Also, since March is nearing it's end, are we going to start a new Micro thread every month now?
 
Yeah, I think we should start a new one, maybe reiterate some guidelines to stay focused? I mean, How big can we let this thread get...
 
Noes I don't want march to end 1k vpps to go for gold and now that im back at 10nl I need to griiiiind my ass off !
 
eNTy said:
Noes I don't want march to end 1k vpps to go for gold and now that im back at 10nl I need to griiiiind my ass off !
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remember that winning is more important than getting VPPs (regardless of what anyone else at CC says)
 
vanquish said:
remember that winning is more important than getting VPPs (regardless of what anyone else at CC says)
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I know but winning isn't really in the books this month.
Mainly because of my own stupidity. See posts above.

Gold isn't really all that important really, I know. Just looks cool and since it's definitely in reach I would like to have it. Two months in a row of coming in range of 1k vpps to gold and not getting it is pretty lame.
 
u should stop being resigned to ur own inabilities and just become good at poker so u can beat games and not have to worry about anything
 
eNTy said:
I know but winning isn't really in the books this month.
Mainly because of my own stupidity. See posts above.

Gold isn't really all that important really, I know. Just looks cool and since it's definitely in reach I would like to have it. Two months in a row of coming in range of 1k vpps to gold and not getting it is pretty lame.
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you do realize that 1k VPP's at 10NL is like 25k hands right?
 
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