Is Online Poker Rigged?

puzzlefish · Jan 18, 2020

Poker Orifice said:
It just keeps getting better

Now if only there was a way to monetize your unwanted interest.

firefist23 · Jan 18, 2020

Debi said:
A lot of players make this claim when they suffer a series of bad beats - we get our share of them around here.

Let's have a serious discussion about it. Read this article:

Is online poker safe or rigged?

There is some really good information in that article that explains some of the misconceptions players have.

The thing I see the most is players having a bad day or even a bad week - or they are making a lot of wrong decisions - and they instantly think the game is cheating them.

They will post hands and say "No way should this happen!" - and I know instantly they have never played live poker. I have been playing live poker for about 10 years and I have seen it all happen in a situation where it can not possibly be rigged.

What are your thoughts?

(ps - this is not the place to post your bad beat hands!)

I play live poker, and I am a bad player(very loose) on both online and live (cash and tournament) or i just don't have patience and i sometimes think that online poker is rigged but yes even on live poker, bad beats happens.

Tero · Jan 18, 2020

It helps when you think how the life itself is rigged. We are all winners of our first MTT against millions of others. Only to find out that the main prize is a long journey towards death.

Svetlana1527 · Jan 18, 2020

Mind or intuition?

Indeed, it is very frustrating when a weak hand wins you from the start, but I do not think games are organized in respected poker rooms, just someone who is more risky and relies more on chance, playing dead hands and winning, and there is such a thing as intuition, and it is sometimes very developed, so I am no longer surprised by anything! The main thing - to play, but do not despair, even if you think that only robots around

successlaw · Jan 18, 2020

There is no rigged at all. We usually call it a rigged when we meet bad eats but after a huge upswing is not rigged

Tunkki · Jan 18, 2020

Sometimes it feels it's totally rigged but you never know what's the truth

puzzlefish · Jan 18, 2020

Nafor said:
It helps when you think how the life itself is rigged. We are all winners of our first MTT against millions of others. Only to find out that the main prize is a long journey towards death.

If life is rigged, what makes you think that online poker is not rigged within life? - a rig within a rig

TheDev · Jan 18, 2020

I felt really baited into online poker. My first ever tourney buy in I literally won. 260 players, $3.30 buyin, won about $240. Then I immediate had bad beat after bad beat in the next 10 plus tournaments I played in. (Losing with full house v 4 of a kind, or nut flush v straight flush) And a lot of these scenarios I've read in these comments felt eerily familiar. I think I'm gonna give some freeroll tourneys a go and try to build another bankroll but I'm not comfortable right now putting more of my own money on there at the time.

vic88888 · Jan 18, 2020

For the most part I probably agree. Sometimes we can make some money though. So long as it isn't Sportsbetting, BOL or Intertops, while fun playing, they make it impossible to withdraw cash. What a disappointment. Crappy service too.

oneybiggs · Jan 18, 2020

TheDev said:
I felt really baited into online poker. My first ever tourney buy in I literally won. 260 players, $3.30 buyin, won about $240. Then I immediate had bad beat after bad beat in the next 10 plus tournaments I played in. (Losing with full house v 4 of a kind, or nut flush v straight flush) And a lot of these scenarios I've read in these comments felt eerily familiar. I think I'm gonna give some freeroll tourneys a go and try to build another bankroll but I'm not comfortable right now putting more of my own money on there at the time.

Too right,i just had a couple of awesome days and got up to about that same figure from zero,been a long time coming and to have it stolen away by an impossible string of badbeats and timely disconnections while my other tables on the site were playing without issue...well its just a huge kick in the guts from what was my most trusted site....Totally impossible run of manufactured badbeats beyond any doubt whatsoever,thats not to even mention the fact that ive seen things that cant be denied,like my favorite of all time which was a 6 player $5 sng which i was crushing by miles heads up ...and it goes back to 5 players including stacks going back to what they were 5 minutes beforehand...oh that was the best for sure haha and i still continue lol lol lol i love poker haha.

Tero · Jan 19, 2020

puzzlefish said:
If life is rigged, what makes you think that online poker is not rigged within life? - a rig within a rig

Well, I didn't say anything about poker. I only meant that thinking like that softens the blow either way since we are all screwed anyway.

theANMATOR · Jan 20, 2020

TheDev said:
I felt really baited into online poker. My first ever tourney buy in I literally won. 260 players, $3.30 buyin, won about $240. Then I immediate had bad beat after bad beat in the next 10 plus tournaments I played in. (Losing with full house v 4 of a kind, or nut flush v straight flush) And a lot of these scenarios I've read in these comments felt eerily familiar. I think I'm gonna give some freeroll tourneys a go and try to build another bankroll but I'm not comfortable right now putting more of my own money on there at the time.

You will not "feel" like poker IS NOT rigged after playing freerolls. LOL
Freerolls is where the MOST UNLIKELY happens on a regular basis.
A rag beats 3 other premium hands.
Guy shoving EVERY hand ends up chip leader with 10x more than second place chip stack.
22 missing flop totally wins out vs AA that hits a set on the flop.

Just saying - don't go into freerolls with 'online poker is rigged' mentality - otherwise it will be quite difficult to overcome that victim mentality. GL

vic88888 said:
For the most part I probably agree. Sometimes we can make some money though. So long as it isn't Sportsbetting, BOL or Intertops, while fun playing, they make it impossible to withdraw cash. What a disappointment. Crappy service too.

BOL and Sportsbetting have been easy withdraws for me - just follow their requirements and they make it quick and simple. Now if you signed up using one of their bonus traps - like double deposit that requires 14x rollover - without reading the fine print, that is something that needs attention paid to next time.
Intertops on the other hand just makes withdrawing difficult, especially regarding the 50% theft of all freeroll winnings. Yes I agree with their terms of service when playing on there site, but DAMN - give us poo folk a break YO!

digdug0037 said:
And another thing I have noticed when I play 2 tables or even 1, like if I fold say a 7 3 the flop will be 337...or it flops on other table..kind of weird the things we see at the tables. I will not say I have not seen some crazy things at live tables though.

Please continue with that - and like hands - more often.

One guy plays any 2 from the button - even calling 3-4x raises - he flopped a boat vs my QQ with 8/3 off. Stacked me when I hit my set on the turn. LOL
Sometimes it pays to continue with junk - however I've stacked that same guy about 85% of the hands we've played against each other - so it all evens out LOL

CDNMAN 42 · Jan 21, 2020

Against The Odds

I have been playing online poker for over 10 years and live cash games and tournaments about the same and although I understand the reasons given for not believing that some Poker On Line Sites are not cheating the results of some hands just defy the odds. This is true on some sites more than others. Unexplainable, I play regularly on Pokerstars, 888 Poker, Bodog, and a strictly Canadian site called PlayNow. The frequency of weird or unusual wins is very high on the PlayNow site, in fact to the point that most players consider it the same as playing the slots - poker odds are meaningless on this site. On the PokerStars site I have noticed that my ability to win is connected directly to the size of my Bankroll, when my balance is low it gets very difficult to win, however, once I make a deposit I actually start to win more often for a while. Coincidence? Perhaps. As a simple example of questionable results, I played a low entry tournament on Pokerstars and just for fun I went all in 17 consecutive hands and won 16 of them..Just luck I guess...

tomk7788 · Jan 21, 2020

I played on Stars and Party for years before "Black Friday" and saw occasional bad beats but nothing close to the frequency I see on ACR and BCP.

Two, three and four outers hit on the river, runner runner straights and flushes. All in underpairs > overpairs, Dominating hands such as AK vs A4 type hands don't hold. Things like that.

It works both ways though, I've benefited by coming from behind but have lost huge pots with huge leads preflop, flop and turn only to lose on the river.

amatola · Jan 22, 2020

I regularly play at 4 sites - and of course bad beats do happen on all. But there is one site that it happens way more than on the others, for me anyway, that's ACR. As for why? Well, it would be pretty easy to rank players into those that deposit, and those that don't and reward the ones that do with the ones that don't.

Just read the comment above - also mentions ACR... hmmmmm

CDNMAN 42 · Jan 28, 2020

Seal Of Approval

Hi, If this is a repeat of a previous post I apologize, I am having a little difficulty navigating the threads etc, anyway here it is: Is there a listing of sites which are eCOGRA approved?

Debi said:
A lot of players make this claim when they suffer a series of bad beats - we get our share of them around here.

Let's have a serious discussion about it. Read this article:

Is online poker safe or rigged?

There is some really good information in that article that explains some of the misconceptions players have.

The thing I see the most is players having a bad day or even a bad week - or they are making a lot of wrong decisions - and they instantly think the game is cheating them.

They will post hands and say "No way should this happen!" - and I know instantly they have never played live poker. I have been playing live poker for about 10 years and I have seen it all happen in a situation where it can not possibly be rigged.

What are your thoughts?

(ps - this is not the place to post your bad beat hands!)

CDNMAN 42 · Jan 28, 2020

Seal Of Approval

Hi, If this is a repeat of a previous post I apologize, I am having a little difficulty navigating the threads etc, anyway here it is: Is there a listing of sites which are eCOGRA approved?

Coherent16 · Jan 28, 2020

I can never win in online poker. Idk why. I always think it’s rigged and try to avoid playing online.

Artbart805 · Jan 28, 2020

After loosing runner, runner, and 95% equity’s. I am having my doubts on its validity!

amatola · Jan 29, 2020

Just did manual 100 hand 9 ring test : so 900 pairs

Just wanted to see how often AA comes up against KK - or if three guys getting 99,TT,JJ in a row was normal. Or getting (as I did last night, 5 times in a row a pair of face card - when you at the end of a MTT and its all in time, and everone seems to have preemo hands - looking at you ACR)

Not doing the percents just the totals.

AA/3, KK/7, AKs/4, AK/6, QQ/3, AQs/3 - how often did the run into each other twice (AA:KK and AK:QQ)

Next group was AQ/AJs/JJ/TT/KQs/ATs

AQ/8, AJs/2, JJ/3, TT/5, KQs/3, ATs/1 ran into each other 3 times with one of those being KQs vs KQs vs ATs.

running into the first group happened 4 times - biggest being AK v QQ v AQ
biggest hand in a row TT v AQ v AJ next KQs v KQs v Ats

In 100 hands, 1 person was delt pairs 31 times/ 2 pairs 10 time/ 3 pairs/0 and 4 pairs once.

I only took note of my cards/position - wanted to see how often a person would get great hole cards in a row: Turns out, not often - in my case, I was never dealt half decent cards twice in a row - and I am being pretty east with the word decent.

KK/1 and AQ/1 the 12 medium hands, pairs, KJo, ATo that sort of stuff. I am guessing though had I marked all positions I might have had a guy getting three decent hands in a row.

And yes, aware that 100 is a pretty small sample

VITOS · Jan 29, 2020

When people talk about the hype of online poker, their most frequent complaints come down to badbit situations. Players worry about the frequent moves of their aces by kings or are surprised at how often some two trash cards move from the overpara to the river. From these same players, you can often hear about the so-called "advantage of a large stack in MTT". The essence of this idea is that, allegedly, poker sites deal cards so that the owner of a large stack wins in pre-flop bids, for example, AK against 99. All of these complaints are mostly inherent in low-limit players.

Other players claim that conspiracies, bots, or super-users are common in many games. This is a somewhat separate topic, since all of the above is not the type of deception that can be used by dishonest poker rooms. Simply put, all this is done by other players, not by poker sites.

Shawnt · Jan 29, 2020

Random? RANDOM???

I pray that the random number generator is truly a random number generator and not pulling cards out from state to make a hand a little better while the next guy has the news. Bad beats are lame set up hands happen. That's why there is a fold button

riverlizard3 · Jan 29, 2020

rigged????

No doubt online poker has had issues with manipulated results, im also sure live poker has had issues in some cases .
But i must say the industry has reacted to this, and is making constant improvements for the fair play and oversight to preserve the value of fair and trusted gaming.
No doubt there will always be the temptation to manipulate and possibly some intentionally unscrupulous sites but it should not be regarded as the norm.

PLAYFUL1 · Jan 29, 2020

With all the crappy hands that win, you'd think it was rigged lol

milonce · Jan 29, 2020

I think if it was, it would be leaked already. Or if and when it were leaked, it would be a huge scandal!!

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