online poker is strange. It is nothing like in real life. PokerStars is totally out of real life poker 😀 With that I wanna say that nothing is like real life poker tournament. You have to try it .👍 But i would play online poker anyway.!
Would you continue to play poker if you found out that 100% of online poker is fake?
luckyfish98 said:
I have seen Videos on YouTube that say this Site is "Rigged" or that Site is "Rigged" and if you watch them with the frame of mind that says "Yes, this has happened to me" you suddenly start to believe that On-line Poker is 100% Rigged.
However if you can understand the complexities of the game and truly believe that if it was "Rigged" Why would Professional Poker players play On-line?
I have watched some big buy-in games played by Professional Players on "Twitch" and I don't believe for one minute that they believe them to be "Rigged" otherwise they wouldn't be wasting their time On-line.
Going back to the YouTube videos and watching the same videos again, but with the perspective of believing that some strange things can and do happen in Poker, and if you can say "Yes this has happened to me" You can see the funny side and laugh at them.
I have been on both sides of some really incredulous hands winning and losing, but I still maintain that if On-line Poker was "Rigged" I wouldn't be able to make money playing on-line, neither would the Professionals!
If there was irrefutable evidence that online was rigged - then of course i would not play it - why would i?
The facts are however - the game is so highly regulated now that it is extremely difficult for this to ever happen. I think with any industry that generates billions of dollars revenue its going to have its nay sayers and conspiracy theorists especially with gambling because of past events but also because you are dealing with peoples emotions and sometimes inability to accept they have lost money, its an emotive subject and links into another good thread about the misconceptions of poker.
The facts are however - the game is so highly regulated now that it is extremely difficult for this to ever happen. I think with any industry that generates billions of dollars revenue its going to have its nay sayers and conspiracy theorists especially with gambling because of past events but also because you are dealing with peoples emotions and sometimes inability to accept they have lost money, its an emotive subject and links into another good thread about the misconceptions of poker.
Well if I learned that online poker HAD BECOME fake, then I might stop or, at least, take a pause.
But if the premise is online poker IS fake, then I would carry on as is, because in this fake world I am a winner, so apparently fake poker suits me well enough. Why quit a good thing?
But if the premise is online poker IS fake, then I would carry on as is, because in this fake world I am a winner, so apparently fake poker suits me well enough. Why quit a good thing?
Hi 🙂luckyfish98 said:
Even if I had found out about it, I would have continued to play. I see no reason to stop playing poker, even if it's 100% fake. At least I'm withdrawing real money, not fake money, so that's definitely a reason to keep playing 🙂
You should ask all the winners , pros and regs this question OP .
Would they keep on playing in a rigged poker room with unreal/fake RNG ? No ? 🤣🤣🤣
Would they tell the truth about this scam to recreational and non winners to help them save their money ? Yes? 🤣🤣🤣
Would they keep on playing in a rigged poker room with unreal/fake RNG ? No ? 🤣🤣🤣
Would they tell the truth about this scam to recreational and non winners to help them save their money ? Yes? 🤣🤣🤣
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I am interested in many answers to this question and your answer is not badantonis32123 said:
First of all, for you saying "there is no proof its rigged", I ask you: DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF ITS NOT??? No, you don't.
"Oh, license xyz". Bro, licenses can be easily bought with brabery or simply bypassed. Don't be this naive, please.
Moreover, how can we ever produce proofs if we don’t have access to our whole hand?? If we download the hands history, they only provide the information of our own cards and the cards that are shown by our competitors. Also they only reveal the cards of the board that are shown. So if a player folds his card, or if the round ends before we see the river, we can’t access all the cards of the round, we can’t see the board, we can’t see our competitors cards. Therefore, how can we check the probabilities?
AA should win about 65% of the times if all the cards are shown, but how can I verify this if they don’t provide us the whole information?
Recently, I was in the end of a winning session where I managed to double my money, then suddenly, my luck “changed”. In a period of time shorter than 45 minutes, I was simply blessed with about 10x bad beats, almost one after another, very little intervals between them. Yes, TEN. In 45 minutes. Since I managed to correctly identify and escape the first ones, I guess they just kept sending it until my ruin. lol
It was about AK 3x times, triple sets 2x, 1x KK, 1x QQ, 1x JJ, 1x flop with 2 top pairs AQ that turned into royal straight, one flop with A-flush that turned into a full house. I even got called by a quad, as usual. Quads are a common hand in poker online. lol
Yesterday, I was into a tournament where a single dude nearly bought everyone in the table by himself. You might figure, well he should probably be very skilled. Nope. He just went all in several times with the most crapy hand possible like J3o or A high off, and he just won all the pots. He actually went all win with a 95o and won the pot from the caller that had AJs with a pair of 5s ON THE RIVER. Obviously, his pair apeared on the river. He went all in about 7~10x times against several players, 90% of the times with shitty hands, he won 100% of the pots. Guess who won the tournament? I dare you.
So, after all that I’ve seen, despite all the poker online whores that try to sell this false “integrity image”. After all the quads and full houses flopped from nothing. I’ve quit poker online. I'm not sure if they rigged it intentionally or if it is just a system flaw they can't fix. All I know is that there's CRYSTAL CLEAR something wrong with the "randomness" of cards distribution. And they refuse to provide us the information to verify this. There's not much space for integrity and honesty in this scenario.
The people that say its not rigged are either profiting from it, or are just blind stupid people. I find no other explanation than that. For anyone with a small amount of intelligence can get to the same conclusion after a few days playing. They don’t disguise it at all. This is true for Pokerstars, WPT Global, Coin Poker and 888 Poker. All scams. None of them provide the full information of the hands.
Its just sad, humans should be extinct at once. We’re just miserable creatures exploiting each other every way we can. We corrupt everything. I’m just really tired of this world. Nothing can be trusted.
Just sad.
"Oh, license xyz". Bro, licenses can be easily bought with brabery or simply bypassed. Don't be this naive, please.
Moreover, how can we ever produce proofs if we don’t have access to our whole hand?? If we download the hands history, they only provide the information of our own cards and the cards that are shown by our competitors. Also they only reveal the cards of the board that are shown. So if a player folds his card, or if the round ends before we see the river, we can’t access all the cards of the round, we can’t see the board, we can’t see our competitors cards. Therefore, how can we check the probabilities?
AA should win about 65% of the times if all the cards are shown, but how can I verify this if they don’t provide us the whole information?
Recently, I was in the end of a winning session where I managed to double my money, then suddenly, my luck “changed”. In a period of time shorter than 45 minutes, I was simply blessed with about 10x bad beats, almost one after another, very little intervals between them. Yes, TEN. In 45 minutes. Since I managed to correctly identify and escape the first ones, I guess they just kept sending it until my ruin. lol
It was about AK 3x times, triple sets 2x, 1x KK, 1x QQ, 1x JJ, 1x flop with 2 top pairs AQ that turned into royal straight, one flop with A-flush that turned into a full house. I even got called by a quad, as usual. Quads are a common hand in poker online. lol
Yesterday, I was into a tournament where a single dude nearly bought everyone in the table by himself. You might figure, well he should probably be very skilled. Nope. He just went all in several times with the most crapy hand possible like J3o or A high off, and he just won all the pots. He actually went all win with a 95o and won the pot from the caller that had AJs with a pair of 5s ON THE RIVER. Obviously, his pair apeared on the river. He went all in about 7~10x times against several players, 90% of the times with shitty hands, he won 100% of the pots. Guess who won the tournament? I dare you.
So, after all that I’ve seen, despite all the poker online whores that try to sell this false “integrity image”. After all the quads and full houses flopped from nothing. I’ve quit poker online. I'm not sure if they rigged it intentionally or if it is just a system flaw they can't fix. All I know is that there's CRYSTAL CLEAR something wrong with the "randomness" of cards distribution. And they refuse to provide us the information to verify this. There's not much space for integrity and honesty in this scenario.
The people that say its not rigged are either profiting from it, or are just blind stupid people. I find no other explanation than that. For anyone with a small amount of intelligence can get to the same conclusion after a few days playing. They don’t disguise it at all. This is true for Pokerstars, WPT Global, Coin Poker and 888 Poker. All scams. None of them provide the full information of the hands.
Its just sad, humans should be extinct at once. We’re just miserable creatures exploiting each other every way we can. We corrupt everything. I’m just really tired of this world. Nothing can be trusted.
Just sad.
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choprav said:
That's what I did. I won 20 dollars from a freeroll tournarment > Double it into 40 dollars in cash games > Got 10+ badbeats in one hour > Zero dollars.
I would never commit the delusional mistake of depositing my own money into these slot machines.
Just went all in with a pair of AAs against a 97o. It was me versus 3 other people. GUESS WHO WON?
The 97o OF COURSE, with a beautiful FULL HOUSE of 99777 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I mean, at this point brother, I don't even question myself anymore if this is rigged.... Human beings are just pathetic creatures...
I'll just finish whatever balance I have left from the freerolls I won and uninstall these garbage slot machines.
REALLY NOT WORTH YOUR TIME NEITHER, but fell free to get to that conclusion by yourselves.
Good "luck" guys!
The 97o OF COURSE, with a beautiful FULL HOUSE of 99777 KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
I mean, at this point brother, I don't even question myself anymore if this is rigged.... Human beings are just pathetic creatures...
I'll just finish whatever balance I have left from the freerolls I won and uninstall these garbage slot machines.
REALLY NOT WORTH YOUR TIME NEITHER, but fell free to get to that conclusion by yourselves.
Good "luck" guys!
You were against 6 cards here!! Not just 97o, so you're probs around 50% to win this hand. Not a bad beat really is it!!DarkSage said:
To answer the OP's question, if there was full proof that poker is rigged, and has been rigged for say 5 years, we would therefore know how it was rigged. I've made steady money over the years so I would still play and continue to make a bit of money. Also its practice for live play, and my main reason to play is to get better and play more live!
If however something drastic had changed, and that would affect us all somehow, then maybe I wouldn't play or at least not so much,
My short answer is no but I do think it's a bit ironic that the idea that poker online poker is rigged is what brought me to this forum of course I just realized I wasn't very good at poker and I've never given it another thought.
Imagine for a second that you discovered every online poker hand, every runout, every “bad beat”… was completely scripted. No real randomness, no real fairness : just a system designed to keep you hooked.
Would you still play for the thrill of the game, the strategy, the competition? Or would the magic instantly vanish once you knew the cards were never real?
For me, poker is about the blend of skill, luck, and psychology. If that balance was fake, it wouldn’t be poker anymore : it would just be a slot machine with extra steps.
Would you still play for the thrill of the game, the strategy, the competition? Or would the magic instantly vanish once you knew the cards were never real?
For me, poker is about the blend of skill, luck, and psychology. If that balance was fake, it wouldn’t be poker anymore : it would just be a slot machine with extra steps.