Does this happen to you at 888 poker?

juliannorei · Aug 4, 2024

Honestly, that has nothing to do with the site.

Have you ever played in person?
The same thing happens, you have to know what to do when the cards arrive.
At that moment, you show whether or not you are a good player.

I don't like 888, but not for that reason.

Sunz of Beaches · Aug 4, 2024

I Live Poker said:
The light of truth. Covering up the nature of what really is, and sucking up and distorting something that is not about skill to attract more people for the wrong reasons is not my thing.

I understand your position, but understand that nothing lasts forever. Live off the crumbs. And keep raising high a flag that is not yours, that is not your inner truth, the heads of state come and take away the flag and you may be left without a real reason, empty and perplexed. Go there, little fish, swim as deep as you can!

Defending the rooms won't make you the best player in the world, just a sycophant and slave to the gears.

You may be in a good moment and everything is going well for you, but rest assured that bad luck can hit you at some point and you will understand what I am talking about.✌️

Bad luck hits me all the time but i dont complain about it too much nor do i post rigged theories online. Poker players run bad all the time, they are actually supposed to run bad more than good over large samples. Only people with no understanding of variance (mirror mirror!) do not get that.

Light up the truth? What truth? Ur truth? The only thing u probably light up is the strong stuff in ur pipe 😅😉 (big compliments to ur dealer, he should read some of ur posts here to understand how good his stuff actually is!)

The cold hard truth is that u think u know way more about this game then u actually do. Its as simple as that. Poker is a very very complex game.

iwont20 · Aug 4, 2024

I will just rephrase a popular saying by Stephen Chbosky and will say that we attract the bad beats we think we deserve 😏

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

Suns of Beaches said:
Bad luck hits me all the time but i dont complain about it too much nor do i post rigged theories online. Poker players run bad all the time, they are actually supposed to run bad more than good over large samples. Only people with no understanding of variance (mirror mirror!) do not get that.

Light up the truth? What truth? Ur truth? The only thing u probably light up is the strong stuff in ur pipe 😅😉 (big compliments to ur dealer, he should read some of ur posts here to understand how good his stuff actually is!)

The cold hard truth is that u think u know way more about this game then u actually do. Its as simple as that. Poker is a very very complex game.

Seriously, poker is complex? I hadn't realized it yet... Do you know why you don't understand? Because luck can't be explained.

Regarding the bad beats you suffer, don't worry, you can handle much more, you are strong and know everything about poker, so you will overcome being a loser for the rest of your life from today on.

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

iwont20 said:
I will just rephrase a popular saying by Stephen Chbosky and will say that we attract the bad beats we think we deserve 😏

I also have a saying, the suffering and defeat you face is proportional to the happiness and victory that follows.

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

There's a crazy hand here, hot from the oven, 10 minutes ago... @ZenonBR
I'm very lucky to see all these crazy things, nobody wants to go through this, but when you win, the vultures come back, the gossips come to congratulate you and flatter you.
And this is nothing compared to what I've been going through for over a year, I only posted it because it's very current.

Sunz of Beaches · Aug 4, 2024

I Live Poker said:
Seriously, poker is complex? I hadn't realized it yet... Do you know why you don't understand? Because luck can't be explained.

Regarding the bad beats you suffer, don't worry, you can handle much more, you are strong and know everything about poker, so you will overcome being a loser for the rest of your life from today on.

Yes it sure looks like u have not realized this by now.

Yes luck cant be explained and u are a good example for this. But if someone plays suboptimal over larger samples then numbers will catch up at some point.

In the hand posted above u should not even be in the hand when utg opens (if he limped then ok i can understand it). At no point u were ahead in this hand. Yet u think its worthwile to post that hand and cry about how "unlucky" u were.

martinoni · Aug 4, 2024

There's something a learned playing poker... If you don't have a bluff range to balance in the tourneys that you don't often get AA, KK, AK, and stuff, then you're playing a lucky game. For me poker is 20% luck and 80% skill.

I think that 80% or more players don't study anything about poker, and so in life. That's why we often see less but the same guys winning a lot and the others not.

So it doesn't matter if it is 888poker or any other platform. The 80% lucky players that don't study are always there but more often we we'll see in the top the reggies that study more.

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

Suns of Beaches said:
Yes it sure looks like u have not realized this by now.

In the hand posted above u should not even be in the hand when utg opens (if he limped then ok i can understand it). At no point u were ahead in this hand. Yet u think its worthwile to post that hand and cry about how "unlucky" u were.

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

Suns of Beaches said:
Yes it sure looks like u have not realized this by now.

In the hand posted above u should not even be in the hand when utg opens (if he limped then ok i can understand it). At no point u were ahead in this hand. Yet u think its worthwile to post that hand and cry about how "unlucky" u were.

Who said UTG opened a raise? Do you know if he limped? Dude, you're just a child who doesn't even know what he's talking about. Soon you'll taste the bitter poison.

fundiver199 · Aug 4, 2024

I Live Poker said:
There's a crazy hand here, hot from the oven, 10 minutes ago...

What is actually even so "crazy" about that hand? Sure its a bit unusual, that 3 players have a flush using both their hold cards. But for the two losing players it only mattered, that UTG had them beat, not what the third player had. And with only low flush cards on the board its not like, any of the higher flushes were blocked. So its not particularly difficult for either Jh8h or Th6h to be beat here and especially not in a multiway pot.

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

fundiver199 said:
What is actually even so "crazy" about that hand? Sure its a bit unusual, that 3 players have a flush using both their hold cards. But for the two losing players it only mattered, that UTG had them beat, not what the third player had. And with only low flush cards on the board its not like, any of the higher flushes were blocked. So its not particularly difficult for either Jh8h or Th6h to be beat here and especially not in a multiway pot.

Wow, what a relevant comment, now everything has changed in my view. Thank you very much!

Sunz of Beaches · Aug 4, 2024

I Live Poker said:
Who said UTG opened a raise? Do you know if he limped? Dude, you're just a child who doesn't even know what he's talking about. Soon you'll taste the bitter poison.

I said if he limped then its ok. There are 2 options: he either limped or raised 😉

The comment above is very relevant. But hey man flush over flush, tough luck!

I Live Poker · Aug 4, 2024

Suns of Beaches said:
I said if he limped then its ok. There are 2 options: he either limped or raised 😉

The comment above is very relevant. But hey man flush over flush, tough luck!

Yes, it is! Very unlucky, man. In fact, it's actually quite lucky to see three Showdawn flushes, unusual.

ztibor72 · Aug 4, 2024

It's just variance. Although your play may loose after a better day.
I had a similar feeling on Pokerstars before when I asked for a payout, but when I reviewed the hands with my coach at the time, for some reason I made more mistakes, I became more impatient, I had to work on that at the time.

BrunoFabri01 · Aug 4, 2024

On the 888 this rarely happens to me, but on the GG it happens every day. I always end up losing when the opponent only has 1 or 2 outs

Ruslan L · Aug 5, 2024

I have noticed that there are different days, sometimes 3-4 days where everything is very bad, nothing good, then a few days when the results are better, and sometimes even very good. But I cannot tell you the factors with which it is connected, that is, I did not notice any such typical coincidences.

Poker Orifice · Aug 5, 2024

millya5 said:
That's what I'm talking about, it's a random number generator. Well it's impossible to prove .

The random number generator helps the player who has a large stack .

I've seen this many times with a garbage hand and they win.

In short, how many people... so many opinions

Sounds like some very sound reasoning there with some excellent statistical data for proof!

So you're basically saying it is random. As long as it's random (as you've suggested) then I really can't see how it can favor a player with a larger stack?

BUT lets say it did favor a player with a larger stack (hypothetically speaking)... then WHY on earth wouldn't you just be the player with the larger stack and once you have that larger stack, take full advantage of how the deal supposedly favors larger stacks. Again, this seems like a no-brainer... but the only thing is, it's dealt via an RNG so it is random.

Poker Orifice · Aug 5, 2024

BrunoFabri01 said:
On the 888 this rarely happens to me, but on the GG it happens every day. I always end up losing when the opponent only has 1 or 2 outs

I'd be willing to wager my entire GG roll that this ^ is utter nonsense.

Poker Orifice · Aug 5, 2024

I Live Poker said:
My dears, don't get me wrong, I love this game more than anyone here, but we have to be aware of the nature of this game, it's luck guys!

You HATE this game and you let it crush your dreams. And as has been already mentioned, you overestimated your playing ability.

I Live Poker · Aug 5, 2024

Poker Orifice said:
You HATE this game and you let it crush your dreams. And as has been already mentioned, you overestimated your playing ability.

Do you think hate and love are different?

What were my dreams?
If you know, tell me, because I don't even know anymore...

I Live Poker · Aug 5, 2024

Poker Orifice said:
You HATE this game and you let it crush your dreams. And as has been already mentioned, you overestimated your playing ability.

Game of luck, man, you don't need any skill, just a little knowledge and practice.
It's the game of God's spoiled little children, who have their asses full of money, and do nothing useful in life, and to feel smart or important they start. Imagine when this goes from bad to better, their faces looking at your life.

Thank goodness I didn't always do this, and I did some simple but important things.

I Live Poker · Aug 5, 2024

I know what you are doing @Poker Orifice, thank you!

Longbow · Aug 5, 2024

martinoni said:
There's something a learned playing poker... If you don't have a bluff range to balance in the tourneys that you don't often get AA, KK, AK, and stuff, then you're playing a lucky game. For me poker is 20% luck and 80% skill.

I think that 80% or more players don't study anything about poker, and so in life. That's why we often see less but the same guys winning a lot and the others not.

So it doesn't matter if it is 888poker or any other platform. The 80% lucky players that don't study are always there but more often we we'll see in the top the reggies that study more.

Yes @martinoni, but there are tournaments in which you don't receive value hands or bluff or semi-bluff ranges in the entire tournament, yes from beginning to end until you are eliminated, you can mysteriously even receive an AK, AQ, QQ etc... already in the end of your stack, where you believe it is time to react, and then after spending more than 50 or 70 rounds not connecting and receiving valuable hands you go ALL IN and the villain simply calls with an inferior hand and beats you with the only strong hand that you received in the entire tournament, and then you enter the next tournament, and all this repeats itself again, as if it were a perfect copy of the previous tournament, as I said I prefer to believe that this is still variance, and have a greater volume of play to discover this, but in these situations Martinoni neither me, nor you or any player in the world, be it Negreanu, Phil Ivey, can play that way.

fundiver199 · Aug 5, 2024

I Live Poker said:
Wow, what a relevant comment, now everything has changed in my view. Thank you very much!

I kind of sense, that this is a sarcastic comment? And to be honest if you dont think, it is relevant to evaluate, how many realistic combos you might be losing to in a given situation, then you really have some work cut out for you. To give a more extreme example would you be willing to put in a ton of chips with 99 on a board of KQJT2 rainbow, because you had the second nuts and consider it absolutely "crazy", if you ended up losing? The concept of ranges is explained here:

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