MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[xdeucesx]

99 . . . I wish. I snapped cause I felt like QJ is a decent portion of his range. Dat Q4 doe lolwut

it's a great hand, blocking BOTH the top AND the bottom of people's ranges.

 

[ScottishMatt]

You know. When you put it like that, it makes so much sense!

I'll need to practice this myself, thanks

 

[Matt Vaughan]

it's a great hand, blocking BOTH the top AND the bottom of people's ranges.

When you say things like this it makes me want to make another vid with you where you're the teacher and I'm the idiot learner.

 

[BenjiHustle]

I just said bigger OTT because there was nothing else that could be changed. Other than that, I just say "Nh", which I think is less helpful.

It may not be a huge difference, necessarily, but it's something.

 

[warturtle7]

I dont know if I can find a fold on that situation but river donk bets like that at the micros are usually for value. I would also bet bigger OTT and that would make the river decision easier because the odds would be better.

Also what do you guys think about this hand?
I only 4betted preflop because stacks were a little bit deeper than usual at rush.
What line would you take?

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($1.27)
BB ($25.58)
UTG ($5.32)
Hero (MP) ($10.43)
CO ($14.39)
Button ($4.23)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 10

, 10

1 fold, Hero raises to $0.15, CO raises to $0.40, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, CO calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.87) 8

, 8

, 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $1.10, CO calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.07) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75

River: ($9.57) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $9.57, Hero ???

Total pot: $9.57 | Rake: $0.47

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero folds
CO didn't show
Outcome: CO won $9.10

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Pre: 4bet seems like overplay.
Flop: Ok as played pre.
Turn: Not sure what we really get called by that's worse, so it can't really be for value.
River: Easy x/f.

 

[DunningKruger]

5NL Rush? Maybe you were playing against LD.

Number 1 thing I can suggest for people playing the micros is simply to use an HUD. It's the greatest thing that will ever happen to your uNL winrate.

 

[ScottishMatt]

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $11.42 (VPIP: 38.46, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, hands: 13)
Hero (MP): $19.76
CO: $11.02 (VPIP: 31.03, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 36.36, Hands: 32)
BTN: $41.49 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 32)
SB: $10.22 (VPIP: 28.13, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
BB: $21.02 (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has J:club: A:club:

fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, SB raises to $1.00, fold, Hero calls $0.70

Flop: ($2.10, 2 players) 9:spade: A:heart: 8:club:
SB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.70, 2 players) T:spade:
SB bets $1.41, Hero calls $1.41

River: ($6.52, 2 players) J:heart:
SB SNAPbets $2.49

?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Fold, I think. Played perfectly up til the river imo. Against some player types we could raise turn but I don't see it being profitable vs. this guy.

 

[zEric7x]

Was this hand too agressive against two people?

no limit 2NL full ring

BB ($0.77)
UTG ($0.89)
MP1 ($0.44)
MP2 ($1.20)
CO ($1.23)
Hero (Button) ($1)
SB ($1.44)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q

, K

1 fold, MP1 calls $0.02, 2 folds, Hero raises $0.06, 1 fold, BB calls $0.04, MP1 calls $0.04

Flop: ($0.19) 8

, Q

, 9

(3 players)
BB bets $0.02, MP1 raises $0.38 (All-In), Hero raises $0.94 (All-In), BB calls $0.69 (All-In)

 

[Matt Vaughan]

The max buyin 50bb or something? This seems fine given that no one has any money, but I'm not used to playing for 50bb and less against the whole table.

 

[Logan2]

AJ from Matty, we only beat AK on river, maybe a reluctant KK, but beat by AQ/QQ/TT/JJ (KQ less often), AK will not snap usually as will be worry at this point, so folding look like best option.

KQ from Erick, is this 888? i think read on bluffmeallin thread 2nl only have 50bb as max buy, looking on rest of table maybe the case. LD should know better about MS strategy.
I guess fine to gii, not sure if we want to just flat flop to keep bb behind in and gii any turn, idk.
Ps. its so lol see all table short.
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[zEric7x]

Oh yeah, I sort of forgot to mention that it was a 50 big blind table. I was playing at Black Chip poker. I didnt really think of how that might change the play. The one thing I noticed is that people are more likely to go all in faster with the odd stack sizes some people had.

 

[86Andi86]

I refuse to play Omaha! the variance is to high for me to handle.
Holdem love

 

[zEric7x]

I refuse to play Omaha! the variance is to high for me to handle.
Holdem love

That was a pretty spur of the moment statement and I was probably remembering some Omaha bad beat I had or maybe I was mad that I am worse at Omaha than Hold Em. Either way I actually do play Omaha. At least for the play monies. ( I did play some 2 PLO but I was confused so I quit.)

 

[ScottishMatt]

Yeah I thought it was a fold guys and managed to make it. Have an interesting preflop spot from my current session (still ongoing) and will post it later.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Dis here be dat interesting spot yo:

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.00 (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG: $5.98 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
MP: $8.67 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: $6.91
BTN: $11.09 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 25.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): $10.12

Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q:club: A:diamond:

UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, fold, Hero raises to $1.40, fold, fold, MP raises to $3.30, CO calls $3.00,

?

 

[Matt Vaughan]

This is such a gross spot before we reraise. In a bigger game I just fold pre to the bet and 2 calls tbh. But it being 10nl and no one deep stacked and unknowns makes me really not want to fold. I guess I 3b on the smaller side and try to not let anyone else in but not overplay my hand. As it is this is kind of a semi-value/semi-bluff.

As it is I think we have best-case scenario here: UTG, who has the strongest range, folds. We are almost always flipping or better against MP's range (he'll have TONS of PP's here). It's hard to know what CO has, but I think it's very often like 88-TT. I'm jamming here every day and being pretty happy with it given all the money in the pot.

 

[ScottishMatt]

Yeah I cam to the same conclusion. FWIW I have stats on CO but it was his first hand at this table so the HUD didn't appear. He is like 70/6. We can definitely get called by worse when we 3Bet IMO which was why I did it. And the pot is going to be so bloated post that if we hit and they hit we get paid when we are good. If we miss no biggie just fold.

The one thing that did concern me is that the only non-PP portion of MP's raise is going to be AK which means I'm in bad shape against his range overall however I thought JJ was far more likely. So I jammed and MP snapped with JJ, so did CO with KQs. Board ran out K high unfortunately but I was curious as to what you ladies thought.

Anyone else care to chime in?

 

[ScottishMatt]

Hand 1 - Had him pegged as a reg from the get go but can't really range him on a 3Bet calling range without more hands. His sizing indicates that he probably isn't that much of a reg which I'm thinking is a bad thing because that means his preflop calling range is probably wider and includes more Jx?

PokerStars - €0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: €13.65 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
Hero (BTN): €10.00
SB: €15.92 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
BB: €25.77 (VPIP: 83.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG: €17.16 (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)

SB posts SB €0.05, BB posts BB €0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.15) Hero has K:heart: K:diamond:

fold, CO raises to €0.30, Hero raises to €0.90, fold, fold, CO calls €0.60

Flop: (€1.95, 2 players) 4:spade: J:heart: J:spade:
CO checks, Hero bets €1.19, CO raises to €2.40


Hand 2 - This guy is a strong reg who has pretty damn good hand reading ability. I'm thinking against this player I would like to raise the turn but at this point in the hand I didn't have as much info on him as I do now. Turn decision, Call/Raise/Fold? (River is obv a standard fold)

PokerStars - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $10.34 (VPIP: 35.29, PFR: 29.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG: $10.35 (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 32)
MP: $12.97 (VPIP: 29.03, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
CO: $10.55 (VPIP: 33.90, PFR: 25.42, 3Bet Preflop: 13.64, Hands: 61)
Hero (BTN): $11.47
SB: $11.16 (VPIP: 10.34, PFR: 10.34, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)

SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has 9:heart: 9:diamond:

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, fold, BB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.55, 2 players) 7:heart: 3:club: Q:diamond:
BB bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.15, 2 players) J:spade:
BB bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

River: ($5.65, 2 players) A:heart:
BB bets $1.50

 

[micromachine]

H1 - Only really AJ should be in his 3b calling range (you block KJ and QJ is too weak), there aren't many combos of it and I imagine he folds it pre quite often too. 44 is unlikely too so I think you are ahead. Plus he's shaping up to be aggressive so bluffs and semi-bluffs will be a large part of his range I think. I'm torn between re-raising to $5 or flatting; flatting keeps all his bluffs in but is also dangerous if he's semi-bluffing with a FD so if I flat I'm betting/raising non-spade turns.

H2 - Those small bets really suck you in, see why you want to raise the turn but thinking it's better to just fold when he doubles, idk.

 

[youregoodmate]

Hand 1 I'm calling the raise and re-evaluating turn cards. He can still do this with PPs.

Hand 2 I agree with micro, I would give up on the turn.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Hand 1 I'm calling the raise and re-evaluating turn cards. He can still do this with PPs.

Hand 2 I agree with micro, I would give up on the turn.

Who the ****'re you?!

 

[youregoodmate]

Who the ****'re you?!

:marchmell

 

[zEric7x]

If somebody limps and then shoves after I raise them what does that mean? I know without context this is a hard question but I was like… huh? Tilt? Stupid? Good hand? I had pocket Kings so I called. This was on zone poker so no status.