MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

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  • #801
Sick brag on 10bi up session, grats man, gl on the 10nl shot.

I started today getting back to 5nl, taking shots with mix tables (2nl-5nl) hopely can get back completely soon.
 
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  • #802
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Sick 12 tabling session +10 buy-ins :D

Gonna start playing some 10nl again, and drop back to 5nl if bankroll drops below $250. Knowing I have 50 buy-ins for 5nl locked and thinking of 10nl as a shot-take and accepting that it may fail should help avoid tilt.

On course to make Goldstar again too...nice that it's a bit easier @ 2.5K VPP now


Well done mm nice session, I like the 50 BI plan, good luck at 10nl, go crush it :)
 
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  • #803
Ugh what can i do? Guy is 41/31 with a 21% 3b over 180 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($10.76)
MP ($5.48)
Hero (CO) ($5.01)
Button ($5.21)
SB ($5)
BB ($4)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
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, A
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UTG bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.20) 6
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, 8
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, 5
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(2 players)
SB bets $3.50 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $3.20 | Rake: $0.13

Results:
SB didn't show
 
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  • #804
micromachine said:
Ugh what can i do? Guy is 41/31 with a 21% 3b over 180 hands.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($10.76)
MP ($5.48)
Hero (CO) ($5.01)
Button ($5.21)
SB ($5)
BB ($4)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q
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, A
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UTG bets $0.15, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.15, 1 fold, SB raises to $0.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $0.90

Flop: ($3.20) 6
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, 8
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, 5
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(2 players)
SB bets $3.50 (All-In), Hero folds

Total pot: $3.20 | Rake: $0.13

Results:
SB didn't show

Nearly hit $500 ^^.

Also I think you played it well, however I would make the 4bet slightly bigger to $1.8 as you are OOP and this guys a maniac.
 
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  • #805
Yoshimiii said:
Nearly hit $500 ^^.

Also I think you played it well, however I would make the 4bet slightly bigger to $1.8 as you are OOP and this guys a maniac.

Nice ! You'll probs win then...I'm around $300 after a bad run, but it's looking up now.

Do you intend on getting it in on any flop after 4betting to $1.80? Or are you still folding if he donk shoves like he did?
 
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  • #806
folding on that flop. If he donked On a gutshot board when I had two over-cards, 10,J,X board then I would call. When he donks that board it looks like he is on a draw as well, but calling it off with A high might be too optimistic. That's what I would do though, might not be optimal play.. I would of probably 3 bet with A/Q pre as well (depending on stats of second villain).
 
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Review:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($5.48)
MP ($10.99)
CO ($1.20)
Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($10.08)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
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, Q
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UTG bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 4
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, 10
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, 10
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.35) 2
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.20, UTG raises to $3.38 (All-In), Hero calls $1.18

River: ($11.11) 10
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11.11 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:
Hero had Q
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, Q
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(full house, tens over Queens).
UTG had 8
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, 7
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(flush, ten high).
Outcome: Hero won $10.61
 
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  • #808
Yoshimiii said:
folding on that flop. If he donked On a gutshot board when I had two over-cards, 10,J,X board then I would call. When he donks that board it looks like he is on a draw as well, but calling it off with A high might be too optimistic. That's what I would do though, might not be optimal play.. I would of probably 3 bet with A/Q pre as well (depending on stats of second villain).

Oh yeah just noticed that my 4b looks weird after originally calling, I guess in SB's eyes that takes QQ-AA and maybe AK out of my range as I would've 3bet them pre. Beginning to feel like I got owned in this hand now lol. Still think the fold is good though, he can easily have an overpair or AK or a strong draw here.
 
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  • #809
Yoshimiii said:
Review:

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($5.48)
MP ($10.99)
CO ($1.20)
Hero (Button) ($10)
SB ($10.08)
BB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q
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, Q
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UTG bets $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.90, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) 4
club.gif
, 10
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, 10
diamond.gif
(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, UTG calls $1.20

Turn: ($4.35) 2
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(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.20, UTG raises to $3.38 (All-In), Hero calls $1.18

River: ($11.11) 10
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(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $11.11 | Rake: $0.50

Results below:
Hero had Q
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, Q
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(full house, tens over Queens).
UTG had 8
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, 7
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(flush, ten high).
Outcome: Hero won $10.61

Looks fine to me, I would stack off vs this shortie with a QQ overpair too. Any stats on him?
 
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  • #810
What about this one? Villain is 12/8, 50AfQ, 400 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($16.49)
Hero (MP) ($12.30)
CO ($10.38)
Button ($15.68)
SB ($11.83)
BB ($2.92)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A
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, 3
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1 fold, Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35, 1 fold, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.15) 4
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, 2
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, 5
diamond.gif
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, CO calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.55) A
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, CO calls $2, 1 fold

River: ($7.55) 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.10, Hero calls $3.10

Total pot: $13.75 | Rake: $0.62
 
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As he's so nitty I don't think he has many Kx fd's in his range , and that's all we're really bothered about as even if he does call pre with like 67s I don't think he goes for value otr with it, could easily be a set or AK/Q right? I don't think I'm folding otr
 
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  • #812
orangepeeleo said:
As he's so nitty I don't think he has many Kx fd's in his range , and that's all we're really bothered about

Nice :) That's what I thought during the hand too, only flushes you would expect a nit to have here really are A high flushes, and the A spades is already out there. I was too scared to raise for value though just in case he does have a weaker flush, maybe a mistake not to just GII idk.
 
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  • #813
micromachine said:
What about this one? Villain is 12/8, 50AfQ, 400 hands

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($16.49)
Hero (MP) ($12.30)
CO ($10.38)
Button ($15.68)
SB ($11.83)
BB ($2.92)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A
club.gif
, 3
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1 fold, Hero bets $0.35, CO calls $0.35, 1 fold, SB calls $0.30, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.15) 4
spade.gif
, 2
spade.gif
, 5
diamond.gif
(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $0.80, CO calls $0.80, SB calls $0.80

Turn: ($3.55) A
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(3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $2, CO calls $2, 1 fold

River: ($7.55) 7
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(2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.10, Hero calls $3.10

Total pot: $13.75 | Rake: $0.62

Imo, I think river is a fold, we lose to all flushes/higher straights (very unlikely for him to have) and tie if he has a 3 (also unlikely) but I don't see why a villain this tight would shove anything other than a flush/straight on this wet board. I would put him on K/Qs here.
 
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  • #814
micromachine said:
Looks fine to me, I would stack off vs this shortie with a QQ overpair too. Any stats on him?

No stats on Villain. In retrospect though I think the turn is a check, then reevaluate based on his bet sizing. As we lose to all flushes/overpairs/trips/fullhouses and these hands massively outweigh the pocket pairs he could have here as the only realistic ones are J/J, 9/9, 8/8 (8/8 at the most). A possible of 6 hands we are beating, however we lose to around 11 hands (although A/A, K/K are very unlikely). But even so we beat a possible 6 hands and lose to a much wider range here I think so that's the reasoning I came up with last night as to why I think I should of checked turn. (stats would of helped so much here as we could of put other pocket pairs into the equation such as 7/7 and lower). I think this post made sense :).
 
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  • #815
Yoshimiii said:
Imo, I think river is a fold, we lose to all flushes/higher straights (very unlikely for him to have) and tie if he has a 3 (also unlikely) but I don't see why a villain this tight would shove anything other than a flush/straight on this wet board. I would put him on K/Qs here.


How many combos of KsXs and QsXs do you think are realistically in this guys flatting range?
 
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  • #816
dsvw56 said:
How many combos of KsXs and QsXs do you think are realistically in this guys flatting range?

Not many, but why would he shove river with A/X?
 
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MM, he plays like, all sets like this, and a nit's preflop flatting range is gonna be like 30% or more weighted to PPs. I'm never folding the riv, in fact I honestly probably shove. Doubt he has many Kx FD's if any. If he does the only ones he can have are KQss and MAYBE KJss, so only two combos. He never folds a set on the river either, and there's literally no way he ever has a straight that beats us here. Shove riv imo.
 
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Oh yeah, and as played with check river, def call, as he has to shove sets here.

Yoshimiii said:
Not many, but why would he shove river with A/X?

He doesn't. He doesn't even have Ax in his range on the river.
 
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  • #819
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MM, he plays like, all sets like this, and a nit's preflop flatting range is gonna be like 30% or more weighted to PPs. I'm never folding the riv, in fact I honestly probably shove. Doubt he has many Kx FD's if any. If he does the only ones he can have are KQss and MAYBE KJss, so only two combos. He never folds a set on the river either, and there's literally no way he ever has a straight that beats us here. Shove riv imo.

Really u don't think he would fold a set on that board? four to a straight and flush. I Would never shove over the top here.
 
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How can he ever stick a 3 in our range? A3 is the only hand we can have here with a 3 in it imo. When he has a set he doesn't want to fold it. And there's only 3 to a flush on the board? Not sure if I mis-read into what you were saying about that part though.

And btw, what you would do and what he would do are different have no influence on each other.
 
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  • #821
Scourrge said:
How can he ever stick a 3 in our range? A3 is the only hand we can have here with a 3 in it imo. When he has a set he doesn't want to fold it. And there's only 3 to a flush on the board? Not sure if I mis-read into what you were saying about that part though.

And btw, what you would do and what he would do are different have no influence on each other.

I don't see how he has a set hardly ever here, A/A is out of the question, and the low pocket pairs I would doubt it, he probably folds them in based on his stats. Also Slowplaying a set on that flop? he must be extremely bad to do that.
 
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Don't reckon he can have a flush here. KQs is the only hand he can have that makes a flush, everything else is PP and look at the river bet sizing. A nit wouldn't bet under half pot with a flush, it is a scared set looking to eke out a little extra value.
 
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  • #823
Yoshimiii said:
I don't see how he has a set hardly ever here, A/A is out of the question, and the low pocket pairs I would doubt it, he probably folds them in based on his stats. Also Slowplaying a set on that flop? he must be extremely bad to do that.

First of all, I'm not just saying "he has PPs" because I feel like it... People with these stats flat barely anything - a huge part of their flatting range pre will be small/medium PPs. And to slowplay a set hoping to get the 3rd player to call is not bad, and uber-standard, because he expects a raise will only get folds.
 
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  • #824
Scourrge said:
First of all, I'm not just saying "he has PPs" because I feel like it... People with these stats flat barely anything - a huge part of their flatting range pre will be small/medium PPs. And to slowplay a set hoping to get the 3rd player to call is not bad, and uber-standard, because he expects a raise will only get folds.

So.. slowplaying a low set on a flush/straight board like this is uber standard now? Also his PF is very close to his VPIP so I would think that he would be flat calling 8/8-J/J pre-flop and maybe K/Q.
 
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His PFR is 8% and his VPIP is 12%. Being a nit, most of his gap comes from flatting, not limping, so let's just say he flats 4% of hands preflop.

We haven't been given a ton of stats here, but I would say he probably 3bets JJ+, AK, maybe AQ. He might flat TT but not sure. I think he flats KQs, and sometimes KQo. Obv this isn't an exact science, but I'll say he flats KQo 50% and folds it 50%.

That still leaves enough for him to be flatting TT- all the way down to 22, and still be close to 4% (it's technically 4.8%, but there is already another caller in, so I think he feels good set-mining -> and this is using Flopzilla btw).

So facing our flop bet, I think it's safe to say he flats KQss, flats sets sometimes (we'll say flat 50%, raise 50%), flats all overpairs, and folds everything else.

So after he flats the flop I think his range is 22,44,55 (weighted just 50% though), 66-TT, KQss (<-- this is just one combo).

After the turn comes I think he folds all his 2nd pairs (66-TT), calls again with KQss (let's just say for the sake of argument he doesn't raise it), and flats all his sets (if he didn't raise flop, don't think he raises turn, especially if he hopes to get the other villain to call). So he's got 22,44,55 (weighted 50%), and KQss (still just 1 combo).

On the river we are deciding what to do. There are 9 combos of sets, but we weighed them at 50%, so 4.5 combos. 1 combo of KQ. We beat all sets and lose to KQ. winning 4.5/5.5 seems pretty good to me, since I don't think he folds any of it on the river that he continued with through the turn.

Edit: Btw, if you are skeptical of the "raise 50%, flat 50%" for sets on the flop, he can flat them less than 10% of the time and we will still be able to make a profitable river bet assuming he never folds sets on the river.
 
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