MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Yoshimiii]

I'm really not a fan of hand 1 tbh.

Assuming villain is unknown, since you didn't post any reads, calling w/A10o OOP v an unknown UTG raise is not going to be good for us. Were behind most of his UTG range and when an A is on board, were going to be outkicked most of the time. In the hand above, what was your thinking on each street? I'm not sure I like the call on flop either, as villain's cbet range is literally his entire PFR UTG range....which dominates us haha.

Villain wasn't unkown, just didn't bother posting stats, he was an AGG fish, anyway I felt he was bluffing and he was so meh, I went with it. Don't usually do calls like this but he insta-barreled all 3 streets.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Just played an uber aggrotard session on one of my tables. Unfortunately the guy on my left was... on my left lol, but his play more than compensated for it. There was also another tard opposite me. Was a truly amazing game. Here are 4 highlights in order of occurrence.


Lol I don't even know what to say about hand 3. These guys must have to deposit every day...

 

[TylerN]

Villain wasn't unkown, just didn't bother posting stats, he was an AGG fish, anyway I felt he was bluffing and he was so meh, I went with it. Don't usually do calls like this but he insta-barreled all 3 streets.

3b>call

 

[xdeucesx]

Hand#3258011529000772 - Pebble Beach (6-Max) 11529 -- $0.25/$0.50 NL Hold'em -- 2013/03/07 - 15:30:56
Dealer: Seat 10
Seat 1: ivanbdn ($20.25 in chips)
Seat 2: Mr Blonde00 ($50.75 in chips)
Seat 3: gogogoal ($77.14 in chips)
Seat 8: hamsivi ($25.83 in chips)
Seat 9: DeGio24 ($54.24 in chips)
Seat 10: JulioCortaza ($49.58 in chips)
ivanbdn: posts small blind $0.25
Mr Blonde00: posts big blind $0.50
Dealt to Mr Blonde00 [6d,6s]
gogogoal: folds
hamsivi: calls $0.50
DeGio24: raises to $1.67
JulioCortaza: calls $1.67
ivanbdn: folds
Mr Blonde00: calls $1.17
hamsivi: calls $1.17
*** FLOP *** [3h,3s,6c]
Mr Blonde00: checks
hamsivi: checks
DeGio24: bets $3.47
JulioCortaza: folds
Mr Blonde00: calls $3.47
hamsivi: folds
*** TURN *** [8c]
Mr Blonde00: checks
DeGio24: bets $6.94
Mr Blonde00: raises to $14.88
DeGio24: calls $7.94
*** RIVER *** [4d]
Mr Blonde00: is all in $30.73
DeGio24: calls $30.73
Mr Blonde00: shows [6d 6s]
DeGio24: shows [Qd Ad]
***SHOW DOWN***
Mr Blonde00 wins $102.09 with Full House Sixes full of Threes

Apparently, I command zero respect

 

[pocketehs]

^ nh deuces lol

how many ppl find themselves in this situation at least once a session? whats our decision pre?

vs regs with stats like 20/15/2.7 with 7% 3bet and most likely assuming he only GII with AK/QQ+

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($13.88)
Hero (MP) ($13.03)
Villain (Button) ($10.73)
SB ($3.90)
BB ($9)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J

, J

1 fold, Hero bets $0.30, Villain raises to $0.90, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.95) K

, K

, 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10

Turn: ($4.15) 8

(2 players)
Hero checks, Villain bets $3, Hero folds

Total pot: $4.15 | Rake: $0.19

Results below:

Spoiler

Villain didn't show

 

[Matt Vaughan]

c/r flop all day on the set of jacks hand...

 

[duggs]

what set of jacks?

 

[Logan2]

How bad is this on 10nl??, I usually don´t like to gii with AK but hand take me there fast. thoughts?.

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

MP: $14.47
CO: $15.70 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 32
Hero (BTN): $10.00 cause
SB: $7.38
BB: $7.95 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 33, 3B: NaN, AF: 1.0, Hands: 3
UTG: $43.08

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K

A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, BB calls $0.80, CO raises to $2.80,
Hero calls $1.90, BB raises to $7.95 allin, CO raises to $15.70 allin, Hero calls $7.20 all in

 

[Matt Vaughan]

This hand made me struggle. On the flop it seemed like no one had 2 clubs, maybe I should have bet more then, it did seem like one of them had a high club though. So maybe on the turn I should have just checked behind and crossed my fingers no club came on the river? I was never gonna call the river obviously...though I did take about a minute to triple check I hadn't hit a boat.
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (SB): $11.21
BB: $15.90
UTG: $10.00
MP: $10.00
CO: $12.15
BTN: $12.92

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with J

J

1 fold, MP raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.25, BB calls $0.20

Flop: ($0.90) K

J

2

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.40) 8

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero raises to $1.80, BB calls $1.30, MP calls $1.30

River: ($7.80) 3

(3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1, MP raises to $7.40 all in, Hero folds, BB calls $6.40

Sorry, forgot it was from the previous page.

 

[RamdeeBen]

How bad is this on 10nl??, I usually don´t like to gii with AK but hand take me there fast. thoughts?.

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

MP: $14.47
CO: $15.70 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 32
Hero (BTN): $10.00 cause
SB: $7.38
BB: $7.95 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 33, 3B: NaN, AF: 1.0, Hands: 3
UTG: $43.08

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K

A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, BB calls $0.80, CO raises to $2.80,
Hero calls $1.90, BB raises to $7.95 allin, CO raises to $15.70 allin, Hero calls $7.20 all in

Never ever, ever going to be bad getting it all in vs anyone in general,I mean you're only a big dog to aces as we all know.

However, when you have a 67/33 who's only got 80bb behind him & wanting to play for stacks pre when you hold A,K it's like the best thing everytime.

 

[orangepeeleo]

Yeah I stacked AK the other day pre and lost against JJ, it sucks when we don't win flips but in LP vs blinds or BTN 3bets I'm happy to get stacks in as long as they're not a complete nit.

When we get like min/small 4bet with AK though I kinda cry shove, there's still every chance they have QQ and that's gotta be enough of a reason to jam right?

Do things change with non suited AK?

 

[Yoshimiii]

How bad is this on 10nl??, I usually don´t like to gii with AK but hand take me there fast. thoughts?.

Poker Stars $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players

MP: $14.47
CO: $15.70 - VPIP: 19, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 0.0, Hands: 32
Hero (BTN): $10.00 cause
SB: $7.38
BB: $7.95 - VPIP: 67, PFR: 33, 3B: NaN, AF: 1.0, Hands: 3
UTG: $43.08

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with K

A

2 folds, CO raises to $0.30, Hero raises to $0.90, 1 fold, BB calls $0.80, CO raises to $2.80,
Hero calls $1.90, BB raises to $7.95 allin, CO raises to $15.70 allin, Hero calls $7.20 all in

Instead of calling CO, re-shove over him, even if CO has K/K and BB calls all in you are still getting the right odds to make this profitable because CO can have Q/Q I would think.

 

[Yoshimiii]

I feel cheated out of a stack:
He had 3/3, for some reason it's not showing .

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($23.98)
BB ($11.11)
UTG ($40.30)
MP ($21.59)
Hero (Button) ($25.96)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K

, K

UTG bets $0.35, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.35, 2 folds

Flop: ($0.95) 3

, K

, 7

(2 players)
UTG bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50

Turn: ($1.95) 2

(2 players)
UTG bets $1.10, Hero raises to $3, UTG calls $1.90

River: ($7.95) A

(2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.80, UTG calls $2.80

Total pot: $13.55 | Rake: $0.61

Results below:

Spoiler

Hero had K

, K

(three of a kind, Kings).
UTG didn't show
Outcome: Hero won $12.94

 

[RamdeeBen]

How come no 3bet pre yoshii?

Depending on your image (I assume you're looser than him) he's going to 4bet A,K/JJ+ & he's going to shut down if he don't hit on the flop/turn so you just lose some pre flop value imo.

 

[duggs]

raise flop, raise bigger on the turn. that river is the worst in the deck for you but i still bet bigger

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

raise flop and get value from what?

most of his range is bet/folding the flop imo.. agreed turn should be bigger but I still shove river because he doesn't have a ny flushes he plays this way when the As comes on the river since most regs aren't bet calling QJs and shit on turns?

if he's got Kx (KQ/KJ or whatever) he's going to fold to a shove or that river bet you made so.. might as well ship and get value from coolers

 

[RamdeeBen]

raise flop, raise bigger on the turn. that river is the worst in the deck for you but i still bet bigger

I prefere flatting flop. Also; the Ace the worse for him ? I'd think it's always the best card, A nut spade pretty much hits all of villians raising range and we can't just put villian on AA because he's a 3/3, we also have to bear in mind yoshii's image from villians POV.

 

[duggs]

yea dont raise flop its bad, i thought he just min bet it. and why is the river good for us?

 

[duggs]

also the fact we are 250bb eff makes me want to 3bet this sooooooo much pre. even more than usual

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

its not good, I just don't think its bad for reasons stated

3bet pre is fine, dunno how many 10nl villains are gonna flat OOP wide enough since we're 200 deep to make this profitable.

flattings ok, deffo need to work on this in my game

 

[RamdeeBen]

yea dont raise flop its bad, i thought he just min bet it. and why is the river good for us?

Because villian is opening such a polarized range, which doesn't include random spades for th emost part

By the turn we can safety assume villain doesn't have AA, he played so passively I think he's always got, strong A,x or TT/JJ/QQ. River is great because he has so many strong Ax in his hands; we are always being paid of with A,K (Unlikely we have 3 accounted for) & A,J/A,Q + some TT/JJ/QQ which will pay us off.

 

[duggs]

seriously what AJ/AQ isnt a spade draw? and its next to impossible to get paid by Kx here let alone 1010-QQ, thats why its a bad river.

i also dont see how the villains opening range is going to be in any way polarized

 

[OMGITSOVER9K]

villain isn't opening a polarised range UTG ram..

actually duggs is kinda right A is a bad river to get paid on for us by most of his range since villain can never have Ax aside from AK and random A high turned club draws?

rivers still a ship since calling ranges don't change to half pot vs shove.

 

[RamdeeBen]

seriously what AJ/AQ isnt a spade draw? and its next to impossible to get paid by Kx here let alone 1010-QQ, thats why its a bad river.

i also dont see how the villains opening range is going to be in any way polarized

I don't think he plays A,J/A,Q spades like this ever. I think he's to nitty to go for a second barrel on the turn and more like go for a x/c as opposed to b/c on the turn.

If he has A,K/Kx/2pairs he pays; why would he b/c a turn raise if he was planning on folding rivers? if he has TT-QQ, same thing applies - he's not b/c the turn to fold rivers and of course the river pretty much his all his strong A,x hands.

Not sure why i said polarized I meant he's only ever raising UTG with A,J+ TT+ and considering strong Aces are a huge part of his range, why's the river bad for us? He's pays us of 100% of the time.

 

[duggs]

i dont think he has AQ/AJ ever. i think KQo folds river, i think AK just became less likely since its already severely blocked and it just blocked another combo of it, i think his sets became more likely to fold river. QQ-1010 are unlikely to b/c turn, let alone call a value bet on the river.