MicroCrushers Thread!!!!!

[Cafeman]

#HOTD

I didn't raise the flop by anywhere near enough, brain fart I guess.


IPoker, $0.10/$0.20 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

MP: $15.12 (75.6 bb)
Hero (CO): $33.04 (165.2 bb)
BTN: $15.80 (79 bb)
SB: $14.51 (72.6 bb)
BB: $13.92 (69.6 bb)
UTG: $19.70 (98.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with T

A

UTG folds, MP calls $0.20, Hero raises to $0.80, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60, MP calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.50) A

3

8

(3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $0.20, Hero raises to $1.55, BB folds, MP calls $1.35

Turn: ($5.60) 2

(2 players)
MP bets $12.77 and is all-in, Hero calls $12.77

River: ($31.14) J

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $31.14 pot ($2.01 rake)
Final Board: A

3

8

2

J

MP showed K

8

and lost (-$15.12 net)
Hero mucked T

A

and won $29.13 ($14.01 net)

 

[Yoshimiii]

Shove or fold?
Villain is unknown, but past 5 hands he has limped all and he is playing 1 table, looks like a fish.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2133801
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $33.62
BB: $25.00
UTG: $24.82
MP: $40.26
CO: $49.53
Hero (BTN): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J :club: J :diamond:
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($3.35) 4 :club: 7 :diamond: 7 :heart: (2 players)
UTG bets $6.50, Hero raises to $23.50 all in, UTG calls $16.82 all in

Turn: ($49.99) 6 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($49.99) Q :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Shove or fold?
Villain is unknown, but past 5 hands he has limped all and he is playing 1 table, looks like a fish.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 2133801
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: $33.62
BB: $25.00
UTG: $24.82
MP: $40.26
CO: $49.53
Hero (BTN): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with J <font color='black'>♣</font> J <font color='red'>♦</font>
UTG raises to $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 2 folds, UTG calls $1

Flop: ($3.35) 4 <font color='black'>♣</font> 7 <font color='red'>♦</font> 7 <font color='red'>♥</font> (2 players)
UTG bets $6.50, Hero raises to $23.50 all in, UTG calls $16.82 all in

Turn: ($49.99) 6 <font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($49.99) Q <font color='black'>♣</font> (2 players - 2 are all in)

Wow. I prob sigh-shove cause he can do this with mid PPs and rando air.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Wow. I prob sigh-shove cause he can do this with mid PPs and rando air.

That's what I was thinking as well, hate it when spots like these come up when you just sit down

Anyway, I think I am getting better at controlling my tilt, got sucked out on a gazillion times last session and just shrugged them off and went onto the next hand and you know you're a boss when you still end up making profit haha.

 

[micromachine]

Got the Skypoker free £10 offer, you get £10 free as SNG or MTT tickets. Cashed in a couple of SNGs, made a few quid on the 4nl tables now got a whopping £15 BR. Might do a Cafeman and try and run up a BR from free cash Shame the lowest limit is 4nl (and the table resizing totally sucks and HUD wont work...I think) Guess I should be buying in for £2 for now?

 

[Cafeman]

Yay, 'free' BRs are the nuts! I just bought in full on 2 tables of 2NL with my free €5. I guess buy in full on 2 tables of 4NL and take it easy? GL!

 

[micromachine]

Up to £18 lol, 2 tabling 4nl with 2.50 buy-in and playing very cautiously!

 

[Logan2]

Anyone in here use "Run It Twice" feature on Stars?. Been good/bad for you?

I have the idea when first read about this time back that hand was run it twice meaning that if you win both times was like you won twice $ with same hand, so was afraid that if lose both mean lose twice amount of $. But reading today on here http://www.pokerstars.com/poker/products/run-it-twice/ Is different from what i was guessing.

For what i understand after you are all-in, rest of hand is run it twice but pot is cut in half for each run. If you win both hands you get both half pots = 1 full stack, and if win and lose mean half stack only. Rake is the same like normal run.

If this is true should mean less variance because if you are mostly ahead when allin then even if are unlucky 1 time just by odds should win the other when favorite. And then instead of lose 1 bi you end losing only half. Did i understand this well?.

This come up today after this hand.

Poker Stars $0.02/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
MP: $3.09
CO: $4.65
BTN: $7.66
SB: $3.38
Hero (BB): $5.07
UTG: $2.87

Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero is BB with A

A

UTG raises to $0.10, MP calls $0.10, CO calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.82, 1 fold, MP raises to $3.09 all in, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.27

Flop: ($6.40) 3

K

K

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($6.40) Q

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($6.40) 9

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $6.40
MP shows K

2

(three of a kind, Kings)
Hero shows A

A

(two pair, Aces and Kings)
MP wins $6.13
(Rake: $0.27)

So, in this case because i´m huge favorite if run it twice mean one time happen this and next time odds suggest will go my way, and then end with half pot instead with nothing rigth?.

I know was running hot lately so not complaining, this is more in the way that if understand this well could mean a huge help to decrease variance. But then why no one talk much about this feature??.
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I know, tl;dr. so cliffs.

Did you guys use Run it twice feature, and it helps to decrease variance like it sounds to me?. And if is that good why no one talk about this feature?.
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[Matt Vaughan]

Just for decreasing variance, yeah. I don't have that option myself and they don't offer it at my local casino so I never have had to consider it for myself. I'm sure some people have very strong opinions both directions.

 

[Yoshimiii]

Run it twice gives more equity to drawing hands as once a blank comes there are less cards in the deck that can hurt the drawing hand. I used run it twice yesterday with my A/K against Q/Q and won em both . Some hands you don't want to run it twice though e.g. A/Q V K/K. Massive underdog to win it twice with A/Q

 

[forsakenone]

I didn't know they have this feature, anyways I wouldn't use run it twice.

 

[Logan2]

Run it twice gives more equity to drawing hands as once a blank comes there are less cards in the deck that can hurt the drawing hand. I used run it twice yesterday with my A/K against Q/Q and won em both . Some hands you don't want to run it twice though e.g. A/Q V K/K. Massive underdog to win it twice with A/Q

But second run don´t mean take out cards already use on first run, when run it twice you have the same amount of cards on deck for 2nd board, so equity is the same both times.

And is not only for preflop allins, it also works on flop or turns if gii. But still not sure if is really good or not. I mean if play 50k hands where giii and run it twice everytime is like i play 100k already, so variance should even more than if just run the 50k, no?.

Keep going back and forward with this because i´m sure should be more things to consider but can´t see it now.

 

[Cafeman]

Surely the cards used in the first run are not put back into the deck for the second.

 

[fletchdad]

Surely the cards used in the first run are not put back into the deck for the second.

IDK how it is online, but live, no they are not.

 

[Logan2]

When no more betting can occur in a hand, and all players still involved have enabled Run It Twice, the remaining community cards will be dealt twice, creating two separate boards.

To me sound like it use same cards twice because considered 2 boards, so don´t take out cards deal on first run. So same decks both times equal same odds.
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[Cafeman]

That sentence simply says 2 boards, it doesn't imply 2 decks.

 

[Jackle43]

No the cards used stay on the board and rest of deck is dealed. They are not recycled

 

[Logan2]

But if that is true then run it twice is not to cut variance but to give more?.
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[Jackle43]

Not really, if you have the best hand and get sucked out on and you run the whole board twice you will often get half back instead of nothing.
And if you go all in on the turn then only the river is run twice. If you go all in preflop then the whole board is run twice and so on.

 

[Jackle43]

i dont personally use it btw

 

[Yoshimiii]

They use it on high stakes poker and you can see that the dealer moves the cards on the streets that are being dealt twice above.

 

[Matt Vaughan]

Run it twice gives more equity to drawing hands as once a blank comes there are less cards in the deck that can hurt the drawing hand. I used run it twice yesterday with my A/K against Q/Q and won em both . Some hands you don't want to run it twice though e.g. A/Q V K/K. Massive underdog to win it twice with A/Q

Nooooo not more equity - running it twice ONLY decreases the variance. For instance, imagine if you are playing a HU match and got it in on the turn, and decided to run it 44 times (all the rest of the cards in the deck). Your equity in the pot would then = your return, because every possible river outcome would have occurred as equally-weighted for the pot (same as would occur with the ever-elusive "long run").

Your expected value in your example of AQ vs. KK is no different no matter how many times you run it.

 

[JOEBOB69]

Didn't CM make a vid itt?
link please

 

[Logan2]

10NL on ipoker - YouTube

There.

So, for ending. If run it twice do lower variance why a winning player will not like to use it?.

 

[pocketehs]

There.

So, for ending. If run it twice do lower variance why a winning player will not like to use it?.

Im going to guess that its because a winning player feels as though they are GII better their opponents more often than not.