****Juggernaut June Poker Chat Thread******

[Monoxide]

Guys ive been asked to mediate in a dispute from a local cash game last night, dunno why, i wasnt there but meh, I know most the the players.

Cash game, players busts, has no money, get a loan of €200 from another players stack, (supposed to be a table stakes game, ie the loan should have come from his pocket not his stack). Very next hand player that gave the loan gets stacked, and the other dude wants the extra €200 that he had give as a loan, as it should have been in his stack. Supposedly the stacks were deep. He argued that he had stepped away from the table as the loan happened, no one disputed that.

I rekon that if the loan wasnt questioned as it was happening then it stands, and he does not have to repay the €200 to another player. But meh, shitty situation I know them all well.

In no way should the guy get the extra $200. So what if it "was" in his stack before, its not now, hence it is no longer his money. The worst part is selling chips off the table..... urg.... that should have never happened in this first place.

 

[tenbob]

Cheers guys, I totally agree. Was just off the phone with the dude questioning it, he is being a total ass tbh. Ill print off a few of these replys, and that should settle it. How on earth he can stake a claim to that is beyond me, how could he justify his claim if it was an hour later on in the game for example.

Yea, loaning from the stack is pretty much stupid anyway.

 

[troyer16]

Brag: Placed 60th in the stars 11R last night. 1660 original entrants. Would have liked to go a little deeper but still pleased.

 

[GunslingerZ]

Can someone explain why SPR only works on the flop ?
I mean I get that we calculate it by dividing smallest stack by the total preflop pot. But why doesnt it work on turn if we take the flop pot instead of preflop pot ?

My take on SPR is that it is supposed to help you make a commitment plan on the flop, based on your hand strength and your opponent's tendencies. According to the authors, by the time you get to the turn, if you have put in more than 10% of effective stacks, you should already have a plan of how to commit or how to get to showdown.

Obviously you can calculate what the stack-to-pot ratio is going into the turn, but either the pot is small enough that only a drastic change in your hand strength on the turn will change your commitment plan, or the pot is big enough that your plan should already have been in place.

 

[GunslingerZ]

OK, question for everyone playing 50NL, especially those of you taking shots. How do you get used to the new bet sizing? I'm going to take some shots soon, and I know that will be one of the hard things to get used to. Instinctively knowing what are good sizes for 3-bets, 4-bets, etc.

Any tips on this for moving up?

 

[eNTy]

Thanks,
that makes complete sense .

 

[zachvac]

ok wtf the awesomeness is an xtranormal video but I'm ****ing sick of that site already, spend like 2 hours just trying to enter the text and it takes 5 minutes to update every time you want to make one small change to see how it looks/sounds and original video was too long so we already were having to make it 2 parts so I let part 1 I save then produce over night and in the morning claims it's still producing wtf so I close it and go to my account and it's not there at all under any of the saved videos so I panic but the back button gets me to the video I can now view it and stuff but when I try to save it goes to the screen saying no saved videos that it's just a placeholder. So it won't save, won't produce, but I can view it wtf do I do? Guess I could record it on my screen with camtasia but then I'm never doing an xtranormal video again so ****ing tilting.

 

[Irexes]

ok wtf the awesomeness is an xtranormal video but I'm ****ing sick of that site already, spend like 2 hours just trying to enter the text and it takes 5 minutes to update every time you want to make one small change to see how it looks/sounds and original video was too long so we already were having to make it 2 parts so I let part 1 I save then produce over night and in the morning claims it's still producing wtf so I close it and go to my account and it's not there at all under any of the saved videos so I panic but the back button gets me to the video I can now view it and stuff but when I try to save it goes to the screen saying no saved videos that it's just a placeholder. So it won't save, won't produce, but I can view it wtf do I do? Guess I could record it on my screen with camtasia but then I'm never doing an xtranormal video again so ****ing tilting.

[x] pretty awesome

 

[vanquish]

ok wtf the awesomeness is an xtranormal video but I'm ****ing sick of that site already, spend like 2 hours just trying to enter the text and it takes 5 minutes to update every time you want to make one small change to see how it looks/sounds and original video was too long so we already were having to make it 2 parts so I let part 1 I save then produce over night and in the morning claims it's still producing wtf so I close it and go to my account and it's not there at all under any of the saved videos so I panic but the back button gets me to the video I can now view it and stuff but when I try to save it goes to the screen saying no saved videos that it's just a placeholder. So it won't save, won't produce, but I can view it wtf do I do? Guess I could record it on my screen with camtasia but then I'm never doing an xtranormal video again so ****ing tilting.

Everybody want a spot in the limelight
but they don't wanna put in work grindin' all night

 

[zachvac]

lmao

 

[switch0723]

Everybody want a spot in the limelight
but they don't wanna put in work grindin' all night

nicely played

 

[eNTy]

producing should only take about 10 min max if it stays on producing just copy the link youve already been given in your browser, and it should be there.

 

[dsvw56]

Guys ive been asked to mediate in a dispute from a local cash game last night, dunno why, i wasnt there but meh, I know most the the players.

Cash game, players busts, has no money, get a loan of €200 from another players stack, (supposed to be a table stakes game, ie the loan should have come from his pocket not his stack). Very next hand player that gave the loan gets stacked, and the other dude wants the extra €200 that he had give as a loan, as it should have been in his stack. Supposedly the stacks were deep. He argued that he had stepped away from the table as the loan happened, no one disputed that.

I rekon that if the loan wasnt questioned as it was happening then it stands, and he does not have to repay the €200 to another player. But meh, shitty situation I know them all well.

Ask him if he'd have given the guy an extra 200 if he lost the hand? That should settle it, imo.

 

[KingCurtis]

lol @ mp2

Stacks:
UTG+1 with $7.93
MP1 with $13.42
MP2 with $9.61
CO with $7.89
BTN with $5.12
SB with $7.89
BB with $5.42
UTG with $10.58

Blinds: $0.00/$0.00
Site: Pokerstars
Dealt to BB:4♥ Q♥
Preflop:
UTG calls [$0.05]
2 players fold.
MP2 calls [$0.05]
Hero: checks
3 players folded.
Total folds this street: 5
Potsize: $0.17
Flop:
K♦ 10♦ Q♠
Hero: checks
UTG: checks
MP2: checks
Potsize: $0.17
Turn:
J♥
Hero: checks
UTG: checks
MP2: checks
Potsize: $0.17
River:
9♥
Hero bets [$0.05]
3 players fold.
UTG calls [$0.05]
MP2 calls [$0.05]
Results:
Hero shows a straight, Nine to King:
4♥ Q♥
UTG shows a straight, Nine to King:
5♣ 4♦
MP2 shows a straight, Nine to King:
9♦ J♣
Hero collected $0.11 from pot
UTG collected $0.11 from pot
MP2 collected $0.10 from pot

 

[zachvac]

Just went to deposit umpiring check, find out that I'm like 2k short of the balance I should have so I go wtf get back in line ask for history apparently the UB cashout like 2 weeks ago got denied, thought I'd gotten it done before that whole thing started but I get home find out that if I did my math right they gave me an extra $200 in my UB account, that should cover the $10 bank charge . Going to cash it all out again, hopefully it bounces again lol.

 

[KingCurtis]

Just went to deposit umpiring check, find out that I'm like 2k short of the balance I should have so I go wtf get back in line ask for history apparently the UB cashout like 2 weeks ago got denied, thought I'd gotten it done before that whole thing started but I get home find out that if I did my math right they gave me an extra $200 in my UB account, that should cover the $10 bank charge . Going to cash it all out again, hopefully it bounces again lol.

ha sweetness

 

[vanquish]

YouTube - System Of A Down - Sugar

 

[Snowmobiler]

I tried to watch your video Vanqish

It says "Embedding disabled by request"

Anyone have any suggestions?



Snow

 

[KingCurtis]

I tried to watch your video Vanqish

It says "Embedding disabled by request"

Anyone have any suggestions?



Snow

same

 

[vanquish]

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 9 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

UTG: $123.85 (61.9 bb)
UTG+1: $120 (60 bb)
MP1: $124.55 (62.3 bb)
MP2: $280 (140 bb)
Hero (MP3): $323.65 (161.8 bb)
CO: $207.85 (103.9 bb)
BTN: $194.75 (97.4 bb)
SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
BB: $145.05 (72.5 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP3 with A

T

4 folds, Hero raises to $8, CO calls $8, BTN calls $8, 2 folds

Flop: ($27) 8

T

6

(3 players)
Hero bets $10, CO raises to $26, BTN folds, Hero calls $16

Turn: ($79) 2

(2 players)
Hero bets $10, CO raises to $42, Hero calls $32

River: ($163) A

(2 players)
Hero bets $10

 

[zachvac]

ok so UB actually has a 5c/1c limit table, yes the big bet is actually smaller than the small bet. They don't have this at any higher though wtf:

Stage #1469744660: Holdem Normal $0.05/$0.01 - 2009-06-09 16:32:31 (ET)
Table: KING DR (real money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - ZACHAV89 ($1 in chips)
Seat 2 - CHEAPOLBAT ($1 in chips)
ZACHAV89 - Posts small blind $0.03
CHEAPOLBAT - Posts big blind $0.05
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ZACHAV89 [Jc Ad]
ZACHAV89 - Raises $0.07 to $0.10
CHEAPOLBAT - Calls $0.05
*** FLOP *** [5h 7s Qc]
CHEAPOLBAT - Checks
ZACHAV89 - Bets $0.05
CHEAPOLBAT - Calls $0.05
*** TURN *** [5h 7s Qc] [8c]
CHEAPOLBAT - Checks
ZACHAV89 - Checks
*** RIVER *** [5h 7s Qc 8c] [Kd]
CHEAPOLBAT - Bets $0.01
ZACHAV89 - Calls $0.01
*** SHOW DOWN ***
CHEAPOLBAT - Shows [5c Kc] (Two Pair, kings and fives)
ZACHAV89 - Mucks
CHEAPOLBAT Collects $0.31 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($0.32) | Rake ($0.01)
Board [5h 7s Qc 8c Kd]
Seat 2: CHEAPOLBAT (big blind) won Total ($0.31) HI$0.31) with Two Pair, kings and fives [5c Kc - B:Kd,P:Kc,B:5h,P:5c,B:Qc]
Seat 3: ZACHAV89 (dealer) (small blind) HI: [Mucked] [Jc Ad]

 

[dsvw56]

ummmm . . . click on the link in the title to go to Youtube and watch it?

 

[Snowmobiler]

ummmm . . . click on the link in the title to go to Youtube and watch it?

Did you miss the part that it isnt taking me there?

Zach seemed to have the same problem

Update:figured out what you meant dsvw,thanks,Im a donkey on puter!

Snow

 

[vanquish]

ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuu


Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
Hand History Converter by Stoxpoker

SB: $177.55 (88.8 bb)
BB: $100 (50 bb)
UTG: $476.95 (238.5 bb)
Hero (MP): $200 (100 bb)
CO: $200 (100 bb)
BTN: $220 (110 bb)

Pre-Flop: Hero is MP with K

T

UTG folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB folds

Flop: ($18) 8

J

4

(2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB raises to $48, Hero raises to $192 and is all-in, SB calls $121.55 and is all-in

Turn: ($357.10) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($357.10) 9

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

Results (listed below in white, highlight to see): $357.10 pot ($3 rake)
SB showed 7d 6d (a straight, Five to Nine) and won $354.10 ($176.55 net)
Hero mucked Kd Td (high card King) and lost (-$177.55 net)

 

[icemonkey9]

I know some people don't look outside this thread, but i posted the official PPA announcement regarding the check bouncing/echeck thing going on:

https://www.cardschat.com/forum/gen...ers-alliance-says-us-govt-153967/#post1208484